Requesting info from all Baleno Owners

bhanusrinivas · 14th June 2006, 12:57

My Lxi gives 11.5 to 12kmpl in city with 100% AC. I have upgraded tyres to 195/60 R14.

abhijit 2284 · 14th June 2006, 13:51

I have a 2000 Model Baleno Altura .
It was sold only in one spec then , has covered about 90,000 kms and still gives about 12.5 in city and about 14-15 on highway at speeds around 110- 130 .
Both figures are with A/c. W.r.t the tyres I changed the stock tyres at 65,000 kms and did not feel the need to go in for wider tyres.
Also have second hand baleno , done about 40,000 kms and gives about 12 and 15 in city and on the highway resp. have changed the tyres to JK tubeless .
Seem OK uptil now .

I dont think its necessary to change the stock tyres as the car has very good body control and suspension set-up. have driven the car on the express in the lonavla patch at 80-90 where the sign says 40 and have not noticed any lateral movement in the vehicle apart fromthe fact that it requires good nerves and steady hands.

Dont buy the car if you are trying to impress people , buy it if you are trying to impress yourself.

mclaren1885 · 14th June 2006, 14:39

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Originally Posted by abhijit 2284

Dont buy the car if you are trying to impress people , buy it if you are trying to impress yourself.

There u go , u nailed it right on the head there .. However to be on the safer side , for better handling, grip , better braking it is indeed necessary to upgrade to bigger, wider wheels .. This will allow one to further push the limits of the car .. Nice to see that u own an altura too .. Which in dazzling black is my favourite of all the 1.6L cars in india .. Hunted around like mad for one , but to no avail .. Ended up with a brand new pearl silver Lxi and im loving every second with it ..

filcord · 14th June 2006, 15:06

Ihave the Vxi with stock alloys and tubed tyres. On a recent run Goa-Mahabaleshwar-Pune-Goa, I had mileage of around 14 kpl till Pune, dropped to 8kpl in Pune city (this included long periods of idling with a/c while the wife picked up shopping), and finally an astonishing 17kpl on the run Pune-Goa. This is a great four-lane road for most of the way, and hardly ever changed out of 5th gear. All figures with a/c on 100% of the time.
One question - while I'm quite happy to run present tyres to the ground, I will eventually want to change to better looking ones, and tubeless. Can I put a wider tubeless on the existing stock alloy rim?

shuvc · 14th June 2006, 15:18

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Originally Posted by filcord

Can I put a wider tubeless on the existing stock alloy rim?

I think 185/70 is possible on the R13 alloys.

abhijit 2284 · 14th June 2006, 17:28

[quote=mclaren1885], .. .. Which in dazzling black is my favourite of all the 1.6L cars in india ..

can't remember seeing any black ones . so its probably better that you went in for a Lxi. and yes for better braking broader tyres help , not that the o.e fitment tyres are bad , very very good brake pedal modulation from all the cars that I have driven upto now

kewlferrari · 14th June 2006, 17:30

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Originally Posted by shuvc

I think 185/70 is possible on the R13 alloys.

Yup, it's very much possible. Even possible on the stock rims, I have it. No issues at all. Amazing cornering stablity with the upgraded tyres.

filcord · 15th June 2006, 16:21

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Originally Posted by kewlferrari

Yup, it's very much possible. Even possible on the stock rims, I have it. No issues at all. Amazing cornering stablity with the upgraded tyres.

Thanks guys, What recommendations for a tyre brand that does not break the bank, is visually appealing, and not a uni-directional tyre?

bruce · 15th June 2006, 19:25

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Originally Posted by abhijit 2284

Dont buy the car if you are trying to impress people , buy it if you are trying to impress yourself.

Quote of the week Abhijit!!

kpzen · 15th June 2006, 23:07

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Originally Posted by filcord

Thanks guys, What recommendations for a tyre brand that does not break the bank, is visually appealing, and not a uni-directional tyre?

1. MRF ZVTS (Noisy but will provide amazing grip n braking)
2. Michelin Certis ( good overall performane but lil costlier than others )
3. Goodyear NCT5 (Not sure if its available in 185/70-13)
4. Goodyear GT3

karthik247 · 15th June 2006, 23:19

Oops...mistake post

gigy · 10th July 2006, 18:38

putting wider tyre for a car when maintaining the same loading will reduce the force per square inch area on tyre resulting in more mileage but lesser grip on road. so while broadening the tyre dont exceed a rational size. also the suspensions get screwed. baleno is a light car thats why it flys... it can fly off the road too. i get 12 in city with ac and got 18 in mumbai pune at 120kmp average.

abhijit 2284 · 11th July 2006, 09:58

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Originally Posted by turbofreak

Does baleno require a tyre change to a broader wheelbase.

Regards,
Turbofreak

Not at all ,the stock tyres are good enough to tackle all the normal driving conditions and situations.
Expect a average of around 12 in city driving conditions dropping to 10 in bumper to bumper traffic

Revvhead · 11th July 2006, 11:28

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Originally Posted by gigy

putting wider tyre for a car when maintaining the same loading will reduce the force per square inch area on tyre resulting in more mileage but lesser grip on road. so while broadening the tyre dont exceed a rational size. also the suspensions get screwed. baleno is a light car thats why it flys... it can fly off the road too. i get 12 in city with ac and got 18 in mumbai pune at 120kmp average.

????????????

And pray what about the extra amount of rubber that you put on the road increasing your contact patch, which increases the grip???

14th June 2006, 12:57	#31
bhanusrinivas BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: hyderabad Posts: 104 Thanked: 0 Times	My Lxi gives 11.5 to 12kmpl in city with 100% AC. I have upgraded tyres to 195/60 R14.
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14th June 2006, 13:51	#32
abhijit 2284 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Aurangabad Posts: 206 Thanked: 113 Times View My Garage	Altura I have a 2000 Model Baleno Altura . It was sold only in one spec then , has covered about 90,000 kms and still gives about 12.5 in city and about 14-15 on highway at speeds around 110- 130 . Both figures are with A/c. W.r.t the tyres I changed the stock tyres at 65,000 kms and did not feel the need to go in for wider tyres. Also have second hand baleno , done about 40,000 kms and gives about 12 and 15 in city and on the highway resp. have changed the tyres to JK tubeless . Seem OK uptil now . I dont think its necessary to change the stock tyres as the car has very good body control and suspension set-up. have driven the car on the express in the lonavla patch at 80-90 where the sign says 40 and have not noticed any lateral movement in the vehicle apart fromthe fact that it requires good nerves and steady hands. Dont buy the car if you are trying to impress people , buy it if you are trying to impress yourself.
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14th June 2006, 15:06	#34
filcord BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: goa Posts: 996 Thanked: 67 Times	Ihave the Vxi with stock alloys and tubed tyres. On a recent run Goa-Mahabaleshwar-Pune-Goa, I had mileage of around 14 kpl till Pune, dropped to 8kpl in Pune city (this included long periods of idling with a/c while the wife picked up shopping), and finally an astonishing 17kpl on the run Pune-Goa. This is a great four-lane road for most of the way, and hardly ever changed out of 5th gear. All figures with a/c on 100% of the time. One question - while I'm quite happy to run present tyres to the ground, I will eventually want to change to better looking ones, and tubeless. Can I put a wider tubeless on the existing stock alloy rim?
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14th June 2006, 17:28	#36
abhijit 2284 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Aurangabad Posts: 206 Thanked: 113 Times View My Garage	[quote=mclaren1885], .. .. Which in dazzling black is my favourite of all the 1.6L cars in india .. can't remember seeing any black ones . so its probably better that you went in for a Lxi. and yes for better braking broader tyres help , not that the o.e fitment tyres are bad , very very good brake pedal modulation from all the cars that I have driven upto now
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15th June 2006, 23:19	#41
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	Oops...mistake post Last edited by karthik247 : 15th June 2006 at 23:20.
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10th July 2006, 18:38	#42
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	putting wider tyre for a car when maintaining the same loading will reduce the force per square inch area on tyre resulting in more mileage but lesser grip on road. so while broadening the tyre dont exceed a rational size. also the suspensions get screwed. baleno is a light car thats why it flys... it can fly off the road too. i get 12 in city with ac and got 18 in mumbai pune at 120kmp average.
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