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Originally Posted by mayankjha1806 I owned Indica Lxi (Petrol) for good seven years and now Baleno for last 6 years. When i compare my 5 year old Indica and now my 6 year old Baleno i can say for sure i am much more confident taking Baleno on highways at decent speeds (read about 90-100) than i was with Indica.
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Please dont compare apples to oranges. You are not doing justice to an Indica by comparing it was a super car Suzuki Baleno. Baleno is a class act from Suzuki. If you compare a Baleno with Esteem, even Esteem is bull ****. Baleno was a better built car than many other MSIL cars. But though its parts were very costly!
Iam no Tata fan. Iam in fact against Tata for their poor QC and the kind of real world 'testing' they do on their customers. First Indica had a hell lotta troubles and were fixed in V2 but those who trusted Tata and took first Indicas became idiots. Then on most brands of Tata were similar. I can quote my own relatives experience buying the Tata 407 engined Tata Sumo which was again not properly tested before being launched - end result => hell lot of niggles, lack of refinement, gear issues wat not! Same is the case with Manza too where they are indeed rectifying the niggles, but at the first place why did these niggles come? Nano, all know caught fire because Tata compromised on a fuse as part of cost cutting. Tata's cost cutting measures are deep cheap.
Tata's attitude to me is more like - fit an engine on to a chassis, give some features and sell it. Not just promotion of a car by feature, they give HUUUGE discounts on their vehicles as well causing many of the Indian buyers (who are not technically in), to fall for it. Manza for eg: easily gets upto 30-40k 'discount' on the price quoted initially. So that takes it below the Dzire. That is where Tata impresses an Indian discount-mad-customer.
Leave Tata aside, Iam a big fan of Manza. People have been quoting Indica's lorry like driving postion and things. But those are gone days. Tata has come a long way in that regard. Those people who are totally against Tata, i Would recommend them to drive a Tata Indigo Manza Elan Quadrajet and see the things Tata has done - comfort, space, improved gear shifts, excellent butter smooth tilt steering, low speed drivabiltiy, good a/c, rear seat comfort (out of the world!!!) and HELL LOADS of features.
I own a Swift Diesel and I had a share of bad luck which was posted in team-bhp. Someone quoted about a defogger going kaput for a Swift. But the question which comes is 'how many' Swifts have that issue? Almost all initial Manza's had some common issues like Power Window switch issue which had to be regularly replaced. Apart from poor build quality, there's nothing wrong with a MSIL cars generally. With Tata that is not just the case. The number of dissatisfied customers is too much across India. Your Tata car went good doesn't mean Tata is good. It only means you were lucky and maintained your car well. MSIL cars on the other hand, you spoil her, abuse her do whatever, take it to a M.A.S.S and she again comes back to life That is the reason for the trust in Maruti Suzuki in India.
Only thing seriously common with Tata and Maruti is their typical indian poor build quality. Though, Maruti wins hands down over the A.S.S part and reliability they have proved over the years in almost all their cars with super hits like M800, Alto, Wagon R, Esteem, Swift etc etc. Can you tell me one good proven specifially super hit model from Tata ever????
Tata is changing, but if you ask me I wont take a Tata car now. Need to give 2-3 yrs more to them to prove their 'new' vehicles like the Manza and Aria.
Statutory warning: Do NOT fall for the features offered by Tata. IF MSIL is not giving features for their cars, still if they are selling well, there should be a reason. Sales figures are the best indicators.