Force Motors SUV to be launched. EDIT: Launched @ 11lac Ex-showroom Mumbai

swiftnfurious · 28th September 2011, 13:48

There is a short TD of Force One by odmag and I am attaching it here. Sirish claims this car possibly has the BEST ride quality in the segment !!

First Drive Force One SUV - YouTube

Edit:: Everytime I see this vehicle, I am getting inclined. The major grouse I have is the really cheap looking OVRM integrated indicators. Those look really shoddy on a 10L+ car. Most probably they sourced it from Galio.

Blue Thunder · 28th September 2011, 15:02

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Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

... The major grouse I have is the really cheap looking OVRM integrated indicators. Those look really shoddy on a 10L+ car. ....

Have you looked at the wind-shield wipers? I am sure the ORVM-integrated-indicators will look luxurious now

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shortbread · 28th September 2011, 16:52

Sometimes these 'expert' reviews never make any sense. OD says that Lotus has done a very good job in tuning the suspension. But then he goes on to say that 'the handling is nothing to write home about and within the limitations of a ladder chassis its Safe and Secure'. An autorickshaw is safe and secure within the limitations of three wheels but that doesn't give one a lot of confidence does it?!!

A well tuned suspension is one which strikes good balance between both ride and handling. Simply making a soft sprung car for a supple ride is not good engineering or else the Germans would have lost out to Cadillacs and Lincolns long ago!!

Samurai · 28th September 2011, 19:10

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Originally Posted by shortbread

Sometimes these 'expert' reviews never make any sense.

And this is why: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ml#post2523787

shortbread · 29th September 2011, 16:00

Has anyone booked this Force/Foday contraption?!! Eager to know their emotions after hearing the XUV500 pricing

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At least on a positive side this will be a far more exclusive car on the road. Couple of years down the line you will have a better story to tell curious onlookers similar to Rover Montegos, Peugeot 309s etc..

@ Samurai

Never understood why any of these 'expert' magazine reviewers always have to sugar coat a vehicles drawback when their job is to simply spit out the facts. Their duty is towards the readers not the carmakers!!

SedatedDrive · 29th September 2011, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortbread

Has anyone booked this Force/Foday contraption?!! Eager to know their emotions after hearing the XUV500 pricing

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The XUV is ugly and costs 2 Lakhs more OTR than the Force One.

Force One: 10.5 L OTR Chennai top end only variant minus ABS/air bags.

madan80 · 29th September 2011, 17:22

really disappointed that at 10.5L it does not offer even ABS.

shortbread · 29th September 2011, 17:30

@ Sedatedrive,

Not sure whether you're being sarcastic or not, compared to the XUV500 the Force one not only looks ugly but also dated.

You are right who wants ABS or Airbags, those chinese panels were built to withstand cotton candy thrown at it by infants, safe driving!!

ssh1979 · 29th September 2011, 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by SedatedDrive

The XUV is ugly and costs 2 Lakhs more OTR than the Force One.

Force One: 10.5 L OTR Chennai top end only variant minus ABS/air bags.

I'm not sure if you have read accounts of accidents or averted accidents by members on this very forum and elsewhere. I myself posted one today.

Sigh! It is very unfortunate that these devices can only be appreciated when one sees them in action. IMO, there is no other sureshot way to convince people that ABS and air-bags is a necessity not an option. On this note, if any member from Indian auto authority is reading this forum, I request them to PLEASE

take this matter up and make these devices mandatory on vehicles.

Y@SH · 29th September 2011, 19:39

I think force will regret their investment, after hearing the price of the XUV500.

teamveevee · 29th September 2011, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortbread

Never understood why any of these 'expert' magazine reviewers always have to sugar coat a vehicles drawback when their job is to simply spit out the facts. Their duty is towards the readers not the carmakers!!

Not true. All main stream media (Print/TV, News papers/Magazines) survive on advts, not purely based on subscription money. The editors dont want to loose the huge advt money comes from these vehicle manufactures. I have seen journalists who hates certain vehicles, writes about the same in magazine/paper as if they are the best. Generally they wont write the negatives, only the positives. These vehicle manufactures also do some kind of "arm twisting"....

harimakesh · 29th September 2011, 22:27

Frankly this cheap chinese contraption must cost on par with the price of a diesel hatch. Force has entered money doubling business at 10.5 L pricing sans ABS

. No big investment as no R&D or product development. Just assemble the chinese panels and components.

C300 · 30th September 2011, 05:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y@SH

I think force will regret their investment, after hearing the price of the XUV500.

They will have to reduce the prices significantly to stay alive. Other option is to launch a fully loaded version at same price point.

Skyline GT-R · 2nd October 2011, 00:28

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Originally Posted by 4x4addict

If Force does commit to this product, I will definitely consider this as an option to replace my Scorpio 4WD after the 4WD and ABS/Air Bag version of Force One is out. I just hope they stick with the Manual 4WD Transfer case rather than the electric one.

The 4WD will not be manual. AFAIK It's electric with knob type Hi/Lo selector.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parm

Chinese Made, indianised with merc diesel engine!

its the FORCE ONE!

Only sheet metal for body is shipped from China. It is welded in India. The Chassis is designed & made in India. ("C in C" chassis is relatively light & structurally very strong by the way). Engine is licensed from Daimler AG & made in India. Tyres are Indian. Lights are Indian. Horn is Indian. Audio system is from a leading brand (could be Malaysian/Singapore). AC is Indian.

There is a 3 years - 100,000 Kms warranty valid in India too.

shortbread · 2nd October 2011, 00:46

@ Skyline,

While I understand your comments, the fact is the most visible components of Force one are chinese. Whatever you see outside (body panels) and inside (dashboard, plastics) are assembled from china. Although at the end of the day what matters most is how good it is and the VFM proposition.

Unfortunately after the XUV500 launch the Force is neither as good as the Mahindra nor does it provide similar VFM. The situation will only get tougher once Tata launches the Merlin as well. Top this all with the fact that the Rupee has now weakened drastically making import of the chinese parts more expensive.

Had Force launched this thing a couple of years ago it would have made an interesting proposition. Unfortunately now it has come to a big boys sword fight with a pen knife!!

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shortbread Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: KL 7 Posts: 2,394 Thanked: 6,311 Times	Re: Force Motors SUV to be launched. EDIT: Launched @ 11lac Ex-showroom Mumbai Sometimes these 'expert' reviews never make any sense. OD says that Lotus has done a very good job in tuning the suspension. But then he goes on to say that 'the handling is nothing to write home about and within the limitations of a ladder chassis its Safe and Secure'. An autorickshaw is safe and secure within the limitations of three wheels but that doesn't give one a lot of confidence does it?!! A well tuned suspension is one which strikes good balance between both ride and handling. Simply making a soft sprung car for a supple ride is not good engineering or else the Germans would have lost out to Cadillacs and Lincolns long ago!!
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shortbread Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: KL 7 Posts: 2,394 Thanked: 6,311 Times	Re: Force Motors SUV to be launched. EDIT: Launched @ 11lac Ex-showroom Mumbai Has anyone booked this Force/Foday contraption?!! Eager to know their emotions after hearing the XUV500 pricing . At least on a positive side this will be a far more exclusive car on the road. Couple of years down the line you will have a better story to tell curious onlookers similar to Rover Montegos, Peugeot 309s etc.. @ Samurai Never understood why any of these 'expert' magazine reviewers always have to sugar coat a vehicles drawback when their job is to simply spit out the facts. Their duty is towards the readers not the carmakers!! Last edited by shortbread : 29th September 2011 at 16:04.
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madan80 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 1,360 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	Re: Force Motors SUV to be launched. EDIT: Launched @ 11lac Ex-showroom Mumbai really disappointed that at 10.5L it does not offer even ABS.
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shortbread Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: KL 7 Posts: 2,394 Thanked: 6,311 Times	Re: Force Motors SUV to be launched. EDIT: Launched @ 11lac Ex-showroom Mumbai @ Sedatedrive, Not sure whether you're being sarcastic or not, compared to the XUV500 the Force one not only looks ugly but also dated. You are right who wants ABS or Airbags, those chinese panels were built to withstand cotton candy thrown at it by infants, safe driving!!
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Y@SH BHPian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Mumbai Posts: 454 Thanked: 909 Times	Re: Force Motors SUV to be launched. EDIT: Launched @ 11lac Ex-showroom Mumbai I think force will regret their investment, after hearing the price of the XUV500.
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harimakesh BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chennai/Kuwait Posts: 502 Thanked: 354 Times	Re: Force Motors SUV to be launched. EDIT: Launched @ 11lac Ex-showroom Mumbai Frankly this cheap chinese contraption must cost on par with the price of a diesel hatch. Force has entered money doubling business at 10.5 L pricing sans ABS. No big investment as no R&D or product development. Just assemble the chinese panels and components.
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shortbread Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: KL 7 Posts: 2,394 Thanked: 6,311 Times	Re: Force Motors SUV to be launched. EDIT: Launched @ 11lac Ex-showroom Mumbai @ Skyline, While I understand your comments, the fact is the most visible components of Force one are chinese. Whatever you see outside (body panels) and inside (dashboard, plastics) are assembled from china. Although at the end of the day what matters most is how good it is and the VFM proposition. Unfortunately after the XUV500 launch the Force is neither as good as the Mahindra nor does it provide similar VFM. The situation will only get tougher once Tata launches the Merlin as well. Top this all with the fact that the Rupee has now weakened drastically making import of the chinese parts more expensive. Had Force launched this thing a couple of years ago it would have made an interesting proposition. Unfortunately now it has come to a big boys sword fight with a pen knife!!
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