Skoda Laura PD or Sonata CRDi ?

Steeroid · 9th February 2006, 13:24

Yesterday I understood how boring the internet really is. Spent the whole day trawling many other auto sites that have been neglected by me, because I couldnt get my daily auto fix.....

Came across this article on the BSM website on the new Sonata CRDi. The Sonata has reportedly been previewed with the VGT version of the 2 litre engine on the Elantra/Tucson and it now pumps out 130bhp and 30kgm of torque.

This version of the Sonata will allegedly make it to India in August.

So would you put your money on the Sonata Diesel or a Laura PDI, assuming you had a budget of upto 18 lakhs (which is what the Laura costs) and were looking for a comfortable D-Segment Diesel Sedan???

normally_crazy · 9th February 2006, 13:37

would like to see the features the car comes with here first.

Considering it has the same feature set like the Laura - tempted as I am to go with the Hyundai , I will opt for the Octy - majorly for the DSG and a korean cant give me the balance between ride and handling like an european car.

ps - Steer add another choice - I like Korean cars but this time i'll take the European one. will make me feel less guilty

Beeman · 9th February 2006, 13:40

Depends on a lot of factors , for me the pricing, power, mileage all make an impact. What to you mean by your poll, do you mean to imply that the diesel sonata will have a bhp of only 130?! bit confused here please clarify??

Steeroid · 9th February 2006, 13:51

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Originally Posted by Beeman

do you mean to imply that the diesel sonata will have a bhp of only 130?! bit confused here please clarify??

Thats what BSM says on their Website, which is pretty much what the 2-litre motor pumps out in VGT form. The Laura's PD motor pumps out 105 bhp and 250 nm in comparison.

They also have a 2.2 litre 150 PS engine, but I doubt that will come to India unless they launch the new Santa Fe (unlikely again, given the volumes).

For the sake of the poll, lets assume that the Sonata comes in its current guise (trim and features, i.e).

himanshugoswami · 9th February 2006, 13:58

Hyundai should put in the stonker of an engine that they have in the terracan into the sonata- 165 bhp am 33 kgm of torqu!!!!!- who needs to change gears with so much torque?

between the Laura nd sonata, the sonata any day man! those regal looks and the fact that it is at least 1/2 size up on the laura seal the issue. Plus the new sonata is not bad to drive, infact it is a better drive thatn the accord.

Cheers

Himanshu

GTO · 9th February 2006, 14:01

I clicked option no.1, but I dont go with the reason that you have stated in the poll. I would pick up the Laura and NOT because I hate korean cars (quite the contrary, actually)

I recently drove the New Sonata, and was not impressed with its driver experience and road manners. Forget the Laura, I would pick the old Octavia over the New Sonata - I only self-drive and how a car feels is very very high on the priority list.

GTO

Steeroid · 9th February 2006, 14:05

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Originally Posted by GTO

I would pick up the Laura and NOT because I hate korean cars (quite the contrary, actually)

Please change the options accordingly, then.

How're the plans coming along, by the way?????

ritik123 · 9th February 2006, 20:21

If BSM says 130 bhp for the 'foreing' model, we indians cant expect to get more than 115.

I wud pick the skoda...simply for looks and european badge.

v1p3r · 9th February 2006, 21:07

Sorry Ritik, but doesn't look like diesels are downrated for India anymore.

Anyway, my vote is reserved for the Accord 2.2 i-CTDi. 138 bhp. 340 Nm. And the two most important words, Kenichi Nagahiro.

n_aditya · 9th February 2006, 21:49

not a big fan of korean stuff so the Laura is the car for me....

Beemer · 10th February 2006, 01:32

Its a tough choice to make .. I personally like the embera and love Skodas ,but everything depends on the pricen of the crdi .. we all know the crdi is one up on the PDs but if HMIL dare price it anywhere close to the laura then i am afraid its out of reckoning ..
I wont pay more than a lac for that crdi over its petrol sibling ..Give me the embera crdi for 16 L onroad and i would go for it ..but at 18 .. NO .

Having said all that ,if Skoda India decides to bring in the base/elegance version of the Laura(which i am sure ,they 'll preety soon) and price it in the region of 14 L, then its bye bye to the crdi embera ..

Coming back to the Q ,If crdi too is priced at 18ish ,then i would choose none and go for the tried and tested old Octavia(seems likely) and enjoy with the rest of money and maintain a healthy bank balance

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

a comfortable D-Segment Diesel Sedan???

steeroid, i dont think the laura should be considered as a comfortable D segmen sedan, Its neither comfortable for 3(at the back) nor a proper D segment car ..

Sahil · 10th February 2006, 02:06

No-Brainer....Laura anyday!

ST7677 · 10th February 2006, 16:16

I would go for Laura anyday, just for the remarkable driving pleasure it offers...

By that time hope we will have Laura 2.0 TDI PD, pumping out 140BHP...
With fuel economy of 18.2 km/ltr (company figure) this car will rip apart the competition.. provided Skoda follows a more sane pricing strategy!

mohananuj · 10th February 2006, 18:08

I would definitely go for the laura. Amazing looks and great build quality. I would really need a lot of pushing to buy a korean car priced over 10 lakhs anyway.

typeOnegative · 10th February 2006, 18:18

The Skoda it will be for me. I know that the Hyundai comes with its own strengths, but as Beemer put it, I think it will be the price in the end. Even then, I am kind of hooked onto the Skodas.

View Poll Results: Would you buy Korean CRDi or German PD?
I'll buy the Laura come what may.	16	66.67%
Bring on the Korean! I'll take 130 bhp, thank you very much!	8	33.33%
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9th February 2006, 13:24	#1
Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,046 Thanked: 2,751 Times	Skoda Laura PD or Sonata CRDi ? Yesterday I understood how boring the internet really is. Spent the whole day trawling many other auto sites that have been neglected by me, because I couldnt get my daily auto fix..... Came across this article on the BSM website on the new Sonata CRDi. The Sonata has reportedly been previewed with the VGT version of the 2 litre engine on the Elantra/Tucson and it now pumps out 130bhp and 30kgm of torque. This version of the Sonata will allegedly make it to India in August. So would you put your money on the Sonata Diesel or a Laura PDI, assuming you had a budget of upto 18 lakhs (which is what the Laura costs) and were looking for a comfortable D-Segment Diesel Sedan???
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9th February 2006, 13:37	#2
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 528 Times View My Garage	would like to see the features the car comes with here first. Considering it has the same feature set like the Laura - tempted as I am to go with the Hyundai , I will opt for the Octy - majorly for the DSG and a korean cant give me the balance between ride and handling like an european car. ps - Steer add another choice - I like Korean cars but this time i'll take the European one. will make me feel less guilty Last edited by normally_crazy : 9th February 2006 at 13:39.
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9th February 2006, 13:40	#3
Beeman BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Treasure island Posts: 335 Thanked: 2 Times	Depends on a lot of factors , for me the pricing, power, mileage all make an impact. What to you mean by your poll, do you mean to imply that the diesel sonata will have a bhp of only 130?! bit confused here please clarify??
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9th February 2006, 13:58	#5
himanshugoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: !!!! Posts: 2,303 Thanked: 2,619 Times	Hyundai should put in the stonker of an engine that they have in the terracan into the sonata- 165 bhp am 33 kgm of torqu!!!!!- who needs to change gears with so much torque? between the Laura nd sonata, the sonata any day man! those regal looks and the fact that it is at least 1/2 size up on the laura seal the issue. Plus the new sonata is not bad to drive, infact it is a better drive thatn the accord. Cheers Himanshu
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9th February 2006, 14:01	#6
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,512 Thanked: 300,698 Times View My Garage	I clicked option no.1, but I dont go with the reason that you have stated in the poll. I would pick up the Laura and NOT because I hate korean cars (quite the contrary, actually) I recently drove the New Sonata, and was not impressed with its driver experience and road manners. Forget the Laura, I would pick the old Octavia over the New Sonata - I only self-drive and how a car feels is very very high on the priority list. GTO
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9th February 2006, 20:21	#8
ritik123 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United States Posts: 123 Thanked: 4 Times	If BSM says 130 bhp for the 'foreing' model, we indians cant expect to get more than 115. I wud pick the skoda...simply for looks and european badge.
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9th February 2006, 21:07	#9
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Sorry Ritik, but doesn't look like diesels are downrated for India anymore. Anyway, my vote is reserved for the Accord 2.2 i-CTDi. 138 bhp. 340 Nm. And the two most important words, Kenichi Nagahiro.
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9th February 2006, 21:49	#10
n_aditya Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 5,348 Thanked: 3,684 Times View My Garage	not a big fan of korean stuff so the Laura is the car for me....
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10th February 2006, 02:06	#12
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,292 Thanked: 7,607 Times	No-Brainer....Laura anyday!
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10th February 2006, 16:16	#13
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,054 Thanked: 73 Times	I would go for Laura anyday, just for the remarkable driving pleasure it offers... By that time hope we will have Laura 2.0 TDI PD, pumping out 140BHP... With fuel economy of 18.2 km/ltr (company figure) this car will rip apart the competition.. provided Skoda follows a more sane pricing strategy!
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10th February 2006, 18:08	#14
mohananuj Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: new delhi Posts: 19 Thanked: 31 Times	I would definitely go for the laura. Amazing looks and great build quality. I would really need a lot of pushing to buy a korean car priced over 10 lakhs anyway.
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10th February 2006, 18:18	#15
typeOnegative Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vikhroli, Mumbai, India Posts: 1,503 Thanked: 27 Times	The Skoda it will be for me. I know that the Hyundai comes with its own strengths, but as Beemer put it, I think it will be the price in the end. Even then, I am kind of hooked onto the Skodas.
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