Cruze Updates in pipeline: EDIT: Launched with new engine

nik_kapur · 15th June 2012, 16:56

June 20th as some dealer has mentioned isn't realistic in my opinion, we are yet to see any face lifted cars being tested in India.

Chevy does have a lot of new launches this year starting with the Sail Twins, the Facelifted Captiva, the Chinese Van and the face lifted Cruze. It will be interesting if they did a not so glamorous launch of the facelifts and spent their cash on the new launches that are volume segment cars.

kch82 · 15th June 2012, 17:41

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Originally Posted by nik_kapur

June 20th as some dealer has mentioned isn't realistic in my opinion, we are yet to see any face lifted cars being tested in India.

Chevy does have a lot of new launches this year starting with the Sail Twins, the Facelifted Captiva, the Chinese Van and the face lifted Cruze. It will be interesting if they did a not so glamorous launch of the facelifts and spent their cash on the new launches that are volume segment cars.

That maybe because, the only change/facelift that Cruze might be getting is under the hood. Therefore GM would have road tested the new Cruze but due to lack of cosmetic changes - would have gone unnoticed by passers. Though I must agree that if they launch the Cruze on 20Th June (or near about), this would be one of the most low key launches in the recent time. I guess we will just have to wait and watch.

nik_kapur · 15th June 2012, 18:10

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Originally Posted by kch82

That maybe because, the only change/facelift that Cruze might be getting is under the hood. Therefore GM would have road tested the new Cruze but due to lack of cosmetic changes - would have gone unnoticed by passers. Though I must agree that if they launch the Cruze on 20Th June (or near about), this would be one of the most low key launches in the recent time. I guess we will just have to wait and watch.

I doubt they would do that. The Cruze already has a highly acclaimed power plant and just a upgrade in that department makes no marketing sense. It does not plug a gap in the offering.
If the new Interiors and facelift are out overseas, we will get it here for sure. Also, i believe GM India has already mentioned a few times that they were working on improving the interiors on a few occasions now.

reignofchaos · 15th June 2012, 18:31

I've been driving a rental cruze here for the last week with the 1.4 turbo petrol engine. While it gives spectacular FE and has very predictable handling, the brakes and gearbox are terrible.

The gearbox is so lethargic, there's never power - only turbo lag when you need the power. It takes 2 seconds before it decides to shift down.

Also the car is 7000 miles old but the brakes seem to have been cooked already. What I hate most is the fact that everytime someone in front of me brakes, I almost end up rear ending the guy. Have been maintaining double the usual distance I maintain to avoid a collision.

I seriously hope the indian cruze has better brakes than this.

BurningHeart · 15th June 2012, 22:02

I just bought the Cruze in April and there is no update for it. I checked through people in most part of GM India. And I said that before. I dont know where Hormazd got his news from though.

BH.

Vid6639 · 15th June 2012, 22:06

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Originally Posted by BurningHeart

I just bought the Cruze in April and there is no update for it. I checked through people in most part of GM India. And I said that before. I dont know where Hormazd got his news from though.

BH.

Do you honestly think they are going to tell you before launching that you should not buy the current one as we will be launching a new updated version soon. They will be trying to sell off as many cars they have in stock. Why would they lose out on current sales by informing customers about an impending refresh in 2 months.

BurningHeart · 15th June 2012, 22:11

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Originally Posted by Vid6639

Do you honestly think they are going to tell you before launching that you should not buy the current one as we will be launching a new updated version soon. They will be trying to sell off as many cars they have in stock. Why would they lose out on current sales by informing customers about an impending refresh in 2 months.

But when one has a tenant in GM India R&D, things can be a bit more reliable, if everything else is equal.

And for the record, tell me one car from GM stable they have refreshed since they launched it. Nothing was ever done with Corsa, Vectra, Spark, Beat, Aveo and U-VA. The only exception is they stuck the SRV grill on to the Optra. Theory of averages for GM India indicates "no facelift".

BH.

shivasuma · 15th June 2012, 22:42

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Originally Posted by BurningHeart

I just bought the Cruze in April and there is no update for it. I checked through people in most part of GM India. And I said that before. I dont know where Hormazd got his news from though.

BH.

The salesman I was in touch with at Trident Chevrolet called me a couple of days back and told me that the updated cruze will be launched in a few days. He said there were some minor changes like LEDs etc. The engine was going to have more power. The expected price increase is about 40-50K.

nik_kapur · 16th June 2012, 21:44

Guys don't you think GM will wait for the Elantra to be launched before they launch the face lifted Cruze. It will be a great way of stealing some of the thunder from Hyundai.
Alternately, they could launch the Cruze facelift now and tap many customers sitting on the edge of buying a car. I for one can't wait.

mudittandon · 18th June 2012, 10:43

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Originally Posted by BurningHeart

And for the record, tell me one car from GM stable they have refreshed since they launched it. Nothing was ever done with Corsa, Vectra, Spark, Beat, Aveo and U-VA. The only exception is they stuck the SRV grill on to the Optra. Theory of averages for GM India indicates "no facelift".

BH.

I think they launched a 'refreshed' Optra back in 2006ish, which had a better tuned engine. While the base engine was the same - the fuel economy, consistency of power bands and transmission improved between the Optra with the old grille (3-part) and the one-piece grille.

The Cruze might have very few modifications - but maybe an engine tuned specifically for Indian stop-start conditions would help it get some juice in bumper to bumper traffic?

anu21v · 18th June 2012, 20:14

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Originally Posted by mudittandon

I think they launched a 'refreshed' Optra back in 2006ish, which had a better tuned engine. While the base engine was the same - the fuel economy, consistency of power bands and transmission improved between the Optra with the old grille (3-part) and the one-piece grille.

The Cruze might have very few modifications - but maybe an engine tuned specifically for Indian stop-start conditions would help it get some juice in bumper to bumper traffic?

And I think Tavera went for 3 rounds of Facelifts which is why they call it Neo3

Vid6639 · 19th June 2012, 21:41

Looks like Zigwheels got their hands on the upgraded Cruze. New engine is 1998cc vs 1991, with DOHC (earlier SOHC) and power is up to 166PS. Manual gearbox is now with 6speed along with earlier 6 speed AT. Inside now has electric seats.

2012 Chevrolet Cruze: Road Test Page - 1| Zigwheels.com

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Originally Posted by BurningHeart

But when one has a tenant in GM India R&D, things can be a bit more reliable, if everything else is equal.

I think the guy working at GM india R&D didn't know much about the Cruze. It's already out.

jayded · 19th June 2012, 22:13

Full credit to GM for bringing a real upgraded version rather than a mere facelift of a car and creating a lot of unwarranted noise around it. The beast just got meaner. It's like someone in GM has gotten so addicted to the power that he just can't get enough of it.

166 bhp and 380 NM? We are entering 3 series territory here.

Such a slap on the face of the Corolla Altis D-4D with that puny engine dragging it around. It targets a different customer base, but come on, what a shame!

nik_kapur · 19th June 2012, 22:53

Already launched without the new ICE and the new bumper ! I find that disappointing.

The previous engine was anyways a stonker and the new one does not add any reasons to buy a Cruze. They probably did this because they will use the same engine in the updated Captiva and it makes sense to make one engine only.

suhaas307 · 19th June 2012, 23:32

^^ Any news on the suspension? Has it been improved? It's a dynamically sound car, but just neutral. Not really 'fun' around corners. But good nonetheless.

I'd driven a friend's '10 Cruze and it was just a brilliant drive

The only real problem with the Cruze is that it just isn't as accommodating as the Corolla in terms of space. Some of the plastics inside could have been better, but for the price, it isn't bad at all.

15th June 2012, 16:56	#121
nik_kapur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,101 Thanked: 864 Times	re: Cruze Updates in pipeline: EDIT: Launched with new engine June 20th as some dealer has mentioned isn't realistic in my opinion, we are yet to see any face lifted cars being tested in India. Chevy does have a lot of new launches this year starting with the Sail Twins, the Facelifted Captiva, the Chinese Van and the face lifted Cruze. It will be interesting if they did a not so glamorous launch of the facelifts and spent their cash on the new launches that are volume segment cars.
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reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	re: Cruze Updates in pipeline: EDIT: Launched with new engine I've been driving a rental cruze here for the last week with the 1.4 turbo petrol engine. While it gives spectacular FE and has very predictable handling, the brakes and gearbox are terrible. The gearbox is so lethargic, there's never power - only turbo lag when you need the power. It takes 2 seconds before it decides to shift down. Also the car is 7000 miles old but the brakes seem to have been cooked already. What I hate most is the fact that everytime someone in front of me brakes, I almost end up rear ending the guy. Have been maintaining double the usual distance I maintain to avoid a collision. I seriously hope the indian cruze has better brakes than this.
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15th June 2012, 22:02	#125
BurningHeart BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 428 Thanked: 58 Times View My Garage	re: Cruze Updates in pipeline: EDIT: Launched with new engine I just bought the Cruze in April and there is no update for it. I checked through people in most part of GM India. And I said that before. I dont know where Hormazd got his news from though. BH.
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16th June 2012, 21:44	#129
nik_kapur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,101 Thanked: 864 Times	re: Cruze Updates in pipeline: EDIT: Launched with new engine Guys don't you think GM will wait for the Elantra to be launched before they launch the face lifted Cruze. It will be a great way of stealing some of the thunder from Hyundai. Alternately, they could launch the Cruze facelift now and tap many customers sitting on the edge of buying a car. I for one can't wait.
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19th June 2012, 22:13	#133
jayded BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: TVM, HYD Posts: 564 Thanked: 548 Times	re: Cruze Updates in pipeline: EDIT: Launched with new engine Full credit to GM for bringing a real upgraded version rather than a mere facelift of a car and creating a lot of unwarranted noise around it. The beast just got meaner. It's like someone in GM has gotten so addicted to the power that he just can't get enough of it. 166 bhp and 380 NM? We are entering 3 series territory here. Such a slap on the face of the Corolla Altis D-4D with that puny engine dragging it around. It targets a different customer base, but come on, what a shame!
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19th June 2012, 22:53	#134
nik_kapur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,101 Thanked: 864 Times	re: Cruze Updates in pipeline: EDIT: Launched with new engine Already launched without the new ICE and the new bumper ! I find that disappointing. The previous engine was anyways a stonker and the new one does not add any reasons to buy a Cruze. They probably did this because they will use the same engine in the updated Captiva and it makes sense to make one engine only.
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suhaas307 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 8,830 Thanked: 12,251 Times	re: Cruze Updates in pipeline: EDIT: Launched with new engine ^^ Any news on the suspension? Has it been improved? It's a dynamically sound car, but just neutral. Not really 'fun' around corners. But good nonetheless. I'd driven a friend's '10 Cruze and it was just a brilliant drive The only real problem with the Cruze is that it just isn't as accommodating as the Corolla in terms of space. Some of the plastics inside could have been better, but for the price, it isn't bad at all.
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