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Old 17th February 2006, 12:20   #16
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Wow...some serious pricing happening here. Now if only they'd change that front grill...
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Old 17th February 2006, 12:28   #17
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Fiesta owners disagree? I doubt.
Fiesta is not a fast sedan. Good in city poor on highways. 0-100 slower than indica Turbo
When you say its not a fast sedan, I presume you are talking about TDCI? And poor on highways from which angle, FE, stability, ride quality?

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At 50K less if would have been a bargain, but at current levels its overpriced.
Which model? Again, if the TDCI, I thought the price was its USP apart from the smoothness of the diesel engine?
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Yes and contessa diesel also is ignored.
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Old 17th February 2006, 12:32   #19
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Yes and contessa diesel also is ignored.
hey you forgot the Amby!
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Which model? Again, if the TDCI, I thought the price was its USP apart from the smoothness of the diesel engine?
No more - if you get an 110 bhp/ 25 kgm torque offering in a much bigger car for just a lakh more, why would anyone think about a 68 bhp cramped car for just a smooth engine ....
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Well we are discussing that there is no complete diesel in this segment except for the innova. Petrol has lot of options like optra/city/Fiesta etc.,
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hey you forgot the Amby
While we are at it, y leave out the Fiat 138D or the viceroy (remember that_a rebadged 118NE diesel)
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Old 17th February 2006, 13:14   #23
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No more - if you get an 110 bhp/ 25 kgm torque offering in a much bigger car for just a lakh more, why would anyone think about a 68 bhp cramped car for just a smooth engine ....
Goldie, the ex-showroom price of the Elantra CRDI is 10,23,549, what are we talking about a lakh more ???? You are comparing a Fiesta TDCI price with a BASE Petrol Elantra price or where is "just a lakh more" coming from my friend?

Please check the prices!
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Elantra CRDI is a much better all round package than the Accent CRDI (I have the Accent - so first hand experience) .... and way over any other diesel car this side of the Mercs.

The engine, ride, suspension, balance, NVH characterestics, are all spot on - not to mention trim levels. One has to be a real good enthusiast with ability to take the car over 130-140kmph before one can start picking holes inthe package. (Accent CRDI is too nose heavy and at speeds over hundred does not feel too well planted - esp while braking).

Slap a Petes box in there - with a pair of 205 or 215's and this baby will show her rear to most thing on wheels on the road..

I think if they ever drop prices - they will surely have a winner!!

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In delhi Elantra crdi fully loaded(Cd changer etc.,) can be had for 9.50L. We were speculating if a stripped version of elantra CRDI is introduced with a 8L price tag it will be a segment killer. Currently Hyundai is not doing that and an elantra CRDI is available only in fully loaded trim, ie
Airbags, Traction control, climate control, ABS, Onboard computer, 6 Cd changer, alloys.
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In delhi Elantra crdi fully loaded(Cd changer etc.,) can be had for 9.50L. We were speculating if a stripped version of elantra CRDI is introduced with a 8L price tag it will be a segment killer. Currently Hyundai is not doing that and an elantra CRDI is available only in fully loaded trim, ie
Airbags, Traction control, climate control, ABS, Onboard computer, 6 Cd changer, alloys.
Yes, but lets compare apples to apples if we compare with the Fiesta TDCI which is still 2 lacs cheaper on-road compared to the 9.5 you are stating. Its like comparing the Petrol Fiesta SXI with the Corolla
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While everyone goes ga-ga over BHP figures of elantra (127 and 110 respectively for Petrol/Diesel), they don't always convey right picture. Last November, I accidently happened to got into race with an Elantra on twisty highway and he found it too tough to catch up. (I am pretty much sedate driver and drive within my limits, not cars).
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Yes, but lets compare apples to apples if we compare with the Fiesta TDCI which is still 2 lacs cheaper on-road compared to the 9.5 you are stating. Its like comparing the Petrol Fiesta SXI with the Corolla
Nobody is comparing it with the Corolla, and corolla's dont come for 6.99 L, but the Elantra GT does ...
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While everyone goes ga-ga over BHP figures of elantra (127 and 110 respectively for Petrol/Diesel), they don't always convey right picture. Last November, I accidently happened to got into race with an Elantra on twisty highway and he found it too tough to catch up. (I am pretty much sedate driver and drive within my limits, not cars).
Thats true, but what you are pointing out is its handling and cornering ability.
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Thats true, but what you are pointing out is its handling and cornering ability.
No. There were straights and twisty was not as in ghats. Has anyone driven elantra? Does it have tendency to slide and push its rear? I noticed it when he braked hard to avoid rough patch on road.
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