Scoop! Tata Manza CS

rajesh.palaria · 16th August 2011, 19:48

Tata Manza Compact Sedan caught on Camera

The CS segment set to have a good tussle

- Coutesy ICB/Carwale/Autobild
1) Tata to launch the Manza CS -SCOOP - CarWale News

2) Tata Manza Compact Sedan caught on camera! | IndianCarsBikes.in

- Coutesy ICB/Carwale/Autobild

vivekgk · 17th August 2011, 06:32

Awesome. It's great to have a better sub-4m sedan to upgrade to from the Indigo CS. The CS's short length is a real boon when parking. IMO, it also looks a lot better than the regular Manza.

The market should heat up real well now, with new Dzire, Etios diesel and Manza CS. More power to the customer!

The only fly in the ointment that I can see is the 1.2L petrol engine from the Vista Safire. Unless it is given some serious tuning (1.2L T-Jet, anyone?), this will kill the sales of the Petrol version.

As for the diesel, Tata will probably equip it with the 75bhp FGT version and not the 90 bhp VGT, in interests of keeping costs down.

doxinboy · 17th August 2011, 07:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivekgk

Awesome. It's great to have a better sub-4m sedan to upgrade to from the Indigo CS. The CS's short length is a real boon when parking. IMO, it also looks a lot better than the regular Manza.

I agree, the CS looks lot matured compared to the existing model. Add a rare spoiler and throw in good plastic for the interior and see the sales chart on fire.

maxbhp · 17th August 2011, 07:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajesh.palaria

Tata Manza Compact Sedan caught on Camera

The CS segment set to have a good tussle

- Coutesy ICB/Carwale/Autobild
1) Tata to launch the Manza CS -SCOOP - CarWale News

2) Tata Manza Compact Sedan caught on camera! | IndianCarsBikes.in

- Coutesy ICB/Carwale/Autobild

Minor changes to the front bumper design can make this car a decent looker. This is going to sell 4000+ provided they take care of the quality niggles + A.S.S.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 17th August 2011, 08:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivekgk

Awesome. It's great to have a better sub-4m sedan to upgrade to from the Indigo CS. The CS's short length is a real boon when parking. IMO, it also looks a lot better than the regular Manza.

Quote:

Originally Posted by doxinboy

I agree, the CS looks lot matured compared to the existing model. Add a rare spoiler and throw in good plastic for the interior and see the sales chart on fire.

+1.

This looks like a proper sedan based on Vista, as compared to the manza. Manza was always a good car, so the same formula in a cheaper vfm package should sell well.

But I strongly feel this will hurt Fiat Punto. Already we have seen Tata dealers pushing Punto customers towards manza (fiat engined sedan with more features at not so high prices). With manza CS, it will be a very strong choice on paper, compared to Punto.

nukeblitz · 17th August 2011, 10:05

I'm guessing that the manza cs top end diesel will be priced at around 8lac otr - which puts it in the punto, i20, fabia, polo, micra, new swift d, fiesta classic, hyundai accent territory.

And looking at that list, there aren't many sedan competitors. The accent is getting old and the classic is not going to have too many takers either in the long run. Other possible competitors are the dzire cs - which i expect to be atleast 50k-80k more expensive than the manza cs if the rumors of the new swift pricing are true. Then there's the upcoming volkswagen sub 4m sedan (up!) and the honda brio sedan but those are both a few years away. The xylo cs, which may have similar pricing if priced aggressively but i expect cross shopping there to be low. So, it looks like a winner to me.

I'm pretty sure it'll take sales away from the punto. But i disagree with the statement that the manza will come with more features than the punto. I feel that it'll do so mostly on the basis of the sedan at hatchback price.

If we ignore the body style, then the punto will still come out ahead in the features department. The manza cs will come out ahead in the space and practicality department.

As an owner of a vista, i'll happily say that if i wanted to upgrade to an 8lac otr car, i'd pick the punto over the manza cs on the basis of features alone...but then, most people won't

HammerHead · 17th August 2011, 11:46

IMO they should have changed the design of tail light. Current ones look huge on the smaller boot. I feel Indigo to Indigo CS was a better job than this.

IIRC, even new Swift DZire will be sub 4mtrs sedan.

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

But I strongly feel this will hurt Fiat Punto. Already we have seen Tata dealers pushing Punto customers towards manza (fiat engined sedan with more features at not so high prices). With manza CS, it will be a very strong choice on paper, compared to Punto.

I disagree!! When I bought Punto 1.4 E-PK, similar speck i.e. top of the line Manza with the very same heart was 5K cheaper then my Punto.

IMO, If someone wants to buy a Fiat will by a Fiat no matter what else he/she could get with same or slightly lesser amount of money

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swiftnfurious · 17th August 2011, 14:39

So the details are out putting an end to the speculation of "Manza CS impossible" ! More products, more choices, more competition !! Ah, this is getting sweeter. On the first look, the nose looks too long, but there is something attractive about the Manza CS ! But even I guess they will keep the FGT 75 bhp version. I wish they put the 90 bhp version though.

SalsaCorp · 17th August 2011, 16:24

I feel that TATA`s should concentrate on the quality of its products rather than the quantity.

My uncle is a great fan of TATA`s and he buys only tata cars, he had an INDICA then upgraded to INDIGO and now he has a MANZA

the other day he called me and said that MANZA has finally proven that it is from the TATA`s stable. I was confused and asked him why?
he tried opening the door and the door handle came in to his hands, he was shocked because its not even a year old car.

patil · 17th August 2011, 17:49

Hi,
Definetely a looker when compared to the bulbous regular Manza. The CS Manza looks a lot better than the regular Manza and looks like a south Indian heroine has lost a good lot flab and weight, just my way of analysis.

It is surely going to be a hit and improve the sales figures of the Manza once it is introduced. I will definetely consider buying one once it is introduced. One thing that Tata should take care of is not compromise with the back seat comfort and leg space though the boot space will come down.

Mr.Boss · 17th August 2011, 17:57

CS looks better than the regular Manza, except the tail lamp which seems to be over proportionate.

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Originally Posted by patil

One thing that Tata should take care of is not compromise with the back seat comfort and leg space though the boot space will come down.

What is the case in Indigo CS? Leg room is reduced than Indigo? I haven't travelled in Indigo CS.

patil · 17th August 2011, 18:01

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What is the case in Indigo CS? Leg room is reduced than Indigo? I haven't travelled in Indigo CS.

Even I dont know however I have travelled in both the old Indigo and the Indigo CS and did not feel much difference but anyone having better and concrete information can comment.

Maverick1977 · 17th August 2011, 18:11

Will this car get the Vista's interiors or the Manza's? Both cars have a completely different layout & general preference is heavily towards the Manza's interiors.

MaserQ · 17th August 2011, 19:04

Tata have made a habit of it. The chopped boot looks well integrated on the Manza CS, just like the previous Indigo CS. Should help boost Manza numbers.

bejoy · 17th August 2011, 20:30

Looks good. OTH, Indigo CS and now Manza CS have almost non-existent bumpers. Aren't the bumpers supposed to protect the body work when it 'bumps' into any obstacle? Sub-4m rule is hurting a lot of boots! It may not be a bad idea for aftermarket extended bumpers to be fixed. Are they available?

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17th August 2011, 06:32	#2
vivekgk BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 984 Thanked: 1,986 Times View My Garage	Re: Scoop! Tata Manza CS Awesome. It's great to have a better sub-4m sedan to upgrade to from the Indigo CS. The CS's short length is a real boon when parking. IMO, it also looks a lot better than the regular Manza. The market should heat up real well now, with new Dzire, Etios diesel and Manza CS. More power to the customer! The only fly in the ointment that I can see is the 1.2L petrol engine from the Vista Safire. Unless it is given some serious tuning (1.2L T-Jet, anyone?), this will kill the sales of the Petrol version. As for the diesel, Tata will probably equip it with the 75bhp FGT version and not the 90 bhp VGT, in interests of keeping costs down.
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17th August 2011, 10:05	#6
nukeblitz BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hyderabad/Mysor Posts: 158 Thanked: 63 Times	Re: Scoop! Tata Manza CS I'm guessing that the manza cs top end diesel will be priced at around 8lac otr - which puts it in the punto, i20, fabia, polo, micra, new swift d, fiesta classic, hyundai accent territory. And looking at that list, there aren't many sedan competitors. The accent is getting old and the classic is not going to have too many takers either in the long run. Other possible competitors are the dzire cs - which i expect to be atleast 50k-80k more expensive than the manza cs if the rumors of the new swift pricing are true. Then there's the upcoming volkswagen sub 4m sedan (up!) and the honda brio sedan but those are both a few years away. The xylo cs, which may have similar pricing if priced aggressively but i expect cross shopping there to be low. So, it looks like a winner to me. I'm pretty sure it'll take sales away from the punto. But i disagree with the statement that the manza will come with more features than the punto. I feel that it'll do so mostly on the basis of the sedan at hatchback price. If we ignore the body style, then the punto will still come out ahead in the features department. The manza cs will come out ahead in the space and practicality department. As an owner of a vista, i'll happily say that if i wanted to upgrade to an 8lac otr car, i'd pick the punto over the manza cs on the basis of features alone...but then, most people won't
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17th August 2011, 14:39	#8
swiftnfurious Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 7,204 Thanked: 9,661 Times	Re: Scoop! Tata Manza CS So the details are out putting an end to the speculation of "Manza CS impossible" ! More products, more choices, more competition !! Ah, this is getting sweeter. On the first look, the nose looks too long, but there is something attractive about the Manza CS ! But even I guess they will keep the FGT 75 bhp version. I wish they put the 90 bhp version though.
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17th August 2011, 16:24	#9
SalsaCorp BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: bangalore Posts: 30 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	Re: Scoop! Tata Manza CS I feel that TATA`s should concentrate on the quality of its products rather than the quantity. My uncle is a great fan of TATA`s and he buys only tata cars, he had an INDICA then upgraded to INDIGO and now he has a MANZA the other day he called me and said that MANZA has finally proven that it is from the TATA`s stable. I was confused and asked him why? he tried opening the door and the door handle came in to his hands, he was shocked because its not even a year old car.
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17th August 2011, 17:49	#10
patil BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Shorapur Posts: 353 Thanked: 66 Times	Re: Scoop! Tata Manza CS Hi, Definetely a looker when compared to the bulbous regular Manza. The CS Manza looks a lot better than the regular Manza and looks like a south Indian heroine has lost a good lot flab and weight, just my way of analysis. It is surely going to be a hit and improve the sales figures of the Manza once it is introduced. I will definetely consider buying one once it is introduced. One thing that Tata should take care of is not compromise with the back seat comfort and leg space though the boot space will come down.
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17th August 2011, 18:11	#13
Maverick1977 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 997 Thanked: 906 Times View My Garage	Re: Scoop! Tata Manza CS Will this car get the Vista's interiors or the Manza's? Both cars have a completely different layout & general preference is heavily towards the Manza's interiors.
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17th August 2011, 19:04	#14
MaserQ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,196 Thanked: 166 Times	Re: Scoop! Tata Manza CS Tata have made a habit of it. The chopped boot looks well integrated on the Manza CS, just like the previous Indigo CS. Should help boost Manza numbers.
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17th August 2011, 20:30	#15
bejoy BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 924 Thanked: 1,405 Times View My Garage	Re: Scoop! Tata Manza CS Looks good. OTH, Indigo CS and now Manza CS have almost non-existent bumpers. Aren't the bumpers supposed to protect the body work when it 'bumps' into any obstacle? Sub-4m rule is hurting a lot of boots! It may not be a bad idea for aftermarket extended bumpers to be fixed. Are they available?
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