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The trend has been about Tata quality and niggles. Let us wait and see if Storme will change the perception about Tata's quality. | |
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1. Whether a car breaks down in the middle of nowhere: In this aspect most modern cars are built well enough that they won't desert you provided you take average ( not even regular and good) care of the vehicle. So Tata is no stranger to this and even there cars would not break down. 2. To some like me reliability means the hassle free ownership experience. The vehicle should not present with any niggles which include a very minor noise from a loose screw to failure of ICE, spark plugs, other gadgetry and other mechanical parts. It is here that Tata scores poorly. Now I agree they have improved a lot from the past but then so has the competition. So they still need to continue working hard on this aspect. So for me why Tata is preferred by Taxi owners: 1. The cars are relatively cheap to buy and are good on interior space. 2. You will find a mechanic and spare parts in even small places for a tata. I would rate it only next to a Maruti in this aspect. 3. The spares are not that costly so it converts into lower running costs. 4. The vehicles won't break down and the Taxi segment doesn't care much about small niggles. They just want a running car. And before anyone jumps on my post, yes I have owned a Tata Indica in the past and currently driving a Tata Indigo in my present location. ![]() | |
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| ![]() Note from the Team-BHP Support Staff : Post Deleted. Typing a message which is not a value-addition to the topic being discussed, or is just entirely irrelevant is considered as “Spam” on this community. Spamming is STRICTLY prohibited on Team-BHP. Last edited by Rudra Sen : 20th August 2012 at 17:18. |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Bharath, You are comparing a UV which costs under 6lacs to vehicle esp innova which is more then double here, anyways on your analysis it work only if a same guy who owns both Sumo and a Scorpio or a innova and all have been iused in similar terrains etc which have dome similar kms from the same person and if Sumo posses fit and finish issues compared to other two then we have a point... On scorpio everyone knows how reliable it is and i think biggest downside of it is the ride quality, atleast i will never hire a scorpio taxi.. this is after TD'ing all the UVs/Suvs withing 10lac bracket... I know a travel agent who has about 10 Innovas and few indigos, and all of then clocking close to a lac kms, every morning i see the driver starting the indigo in on one click and taking off and when i asked him about relaibility part he clearly mentioned that though Innova is great iterms of quality he cant use them as the indigo.... Quote:
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| ![]() I had used Mahindra Armada from 1995 to 1998. At that time there was limited option as regards to selecting diesel SUV. The scorpio is certainly far better than that.But falls short in many aspects ( except look and price) as compared to many other SUVs in the market.Scorpio is 100% Indian product and I will be happy and take pride if it scores well.But I am yet to know why it has become exceedingly so much popular. Note from the Team-BHP Support Team: Please avoid quoting an entire large post. It inconveniences our small screen & mobile readers. Last edited by Rudra Sen : 21st August 2012 at 07:45. |
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| ![]() Today I looked at different cars along with my brother.both of us are 6 footers with turbans. We didnt have enough time to TD all cars,instead we decided to sit and check out driving positions and passenger seating. Brio,swift,i10, Ritz,beat.- poor driving position with legs hitting the center consoles.or no leg room at the back after one of us found a comfy driving position . Ertiga- very flexible, sufficient headroom. Last row unusable. Bolero.-cramped Quanto- very comfortable in front, poor middle row Chevy sail - very good driving position with sufficient legroom at the back.poor headroom at the back. We avoided TATA as we already own an indigo and wanted a change .... Went to Tata showroom for fun. Seating in Tata indica and vista-comfortable. Punto-driving position best out of all hatches. Tata safari storme- very poor driving ergonomics with steering in between my legs and less than comfortable headroom. My brother highly disappointed with his favourite .... Tata sumo- fantastic headroom, fantastic legroom, very good driving position, airy cabin.unexpectedly low NVH.fantastic low end torque, powerful for my kind of driving. Most usable jump seats of any vehicle. Fantastic luggage space. Good braking..... My brother has been pondering in silence over the events of the day! The most suitable vehicle for our needs may turn out to be one that was most despised by him! And he might have to become a truck driver after all!!!!! |
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The Gold is still going through some teething problems. I would suggest the Safari well ahead of the Gold. Or the Storme. | |
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Also, are there any apparent problems shown up in the CR4 variants, that you have heard of? I'm being told it's going good so far, in terms of reliability. The news is that Tata Motors would migrate to CR4 technology to most of it's product line, gradually. Maybe that is an assurance enough, for these engines. | |
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| ![]() ^^^^^ I hope its sorted out.have lived with quite a few tatas.sierra,old sumo,presently indigo. The beauty of the sumo is there are hardly any electronics to fail.like the thar. Engine was much more refined than we expected and even the sales guys made us take a TD after we told them of our 10 Lac budget and then saw us being uncomfortable in the safari storme. Will see the safari again but the only two cars we felt more comfortable in than our ageing indigo was the sumo and quanto. |
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Condor I am very keen to know the teething problems of Sumo Gold. May I request you to give detailed explaination on that. My taxi operator friend runs almost everyday about 300 kms in his Gold EX . He has already done over 71000 kms and the only problem he had to face was leaking of engine oil but that was soon resolved. Apart from that his vehicle has been absolutely niggle free. I agree that handling of Safari is better than Sumo for a fast driver. But I am curious to know about problems of Sumo Gold (CR4). |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Koushik, from the feedback I have, many Gold's are experiencing very early clutch wear. The leakage you mentioned is also one of the problems that other Gold's have seen. |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() @drsingh: There are two variants of the Sumo Gold. The DI Turbo has no/very little electronics. The CR4 common rail variant has the ECU, etcc. |
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Waiting for mahindra guys to arrange a td of quanto.heard good feedback has been received by the showroom at my place.... I took the cr4 sumo and xenon xt for a test drive.the xenon was too cramped for us.. I request forum members to share whatever experience they have with the sumo gold. | |
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Remember that both Quanto and Sumo are high body cars on small wheelbases, hence would not be as stable as other MUV/SUV which are either shorter or have longer wheelbases. As long as you understand this and drive the vehicle within limits, I am sure you would love your choice. Regarding the Sumo, IMO it seems to run out of breath on the highways. May be its only my perception, however 70 odd bhp seems kind of inadequate to push beyond 120kmph, where the car seems to level off. | |
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