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Enjoy your 118NE car, it is a wonderful product. It taught me to think logically and work properly, like NISSAN. Best regards, Behram Dhabhar | |
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Link to the pics: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ml#post2820492 | |
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![]() By the way was curious to know whether there were any 118 NEs made that had gear levers near the steering wheel (like the PP). My friend who is interested in acquiring a NE, contacted a person who had given an ad for the sale of his NE. To his surprise (and mine), the gear lever on this petrol NE was near the steering like the PP instead of the floor. Attaching pictures that my friend sent me. The body of this car is in a real bad shape hence my friend is in two minds. Regards and Keep Revving, ![]() Rahul Waghmare. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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| ![]() Dear Rahul - your question on 118NE with column mounted gear shift lever, yes, very few vehicles were actually rolled down. The idea never really took off. The first prototype was MZM 7331, it was a blue car made in R&D Kurla. The transmission was from the NISSAN VANETTE. The rear extension length was small, it had a hanging mounting from the top, for which a bracket was spot welded to the transmission tunnel. The linkages were very complicated. The gear lever had a ball fulcrum, the long rod had complex movement in 3 planes, it was very difficult to align and adjust all parts. I worked on the layout and it was indeed a learning experience, putting all the third semester engineering drawing knowledge into practice (projection of lines, projected length, true length etc). The original FIAT 124 layout was available to us for reference but as half of it was FIAT (body side) and half of it was NISSAN (transmission), packaging engineering was done by us. There were two levers, one for selection and one for engagement. One had a vertical axis, one had a horizontal axis. The operating bell crank lever was mounted on the inner side of the RH wall of the transmission tunnel. Replacing the lever bushes was a horrible exercise due to lack of access. We had also made a prototype with Padmini arrangement and simplified rod movement in 2 planes. We used it on MMY 7212, a white 118NE prototype with Padmini engine and transmission. As far as I know, MZM 7331 was with my colleague Mr.Ramanathan somewhere in South India. I don't know what happened to MMY 7212. Best regards, Behram Dhabhar |
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Thanks for sharing this piece of info. Did all the column shift variants come with the Vanette gearbox? Which would have meant that propeller shaft was also little longer for these variants. The Vanette came with a cable mounted gearshift right? The one with which you had prototyped, was it a 4 speed or 5 speed? Coz I had gone through Datsun forums where they have mentioned about Remote shift 60 & 63 series transmissions. Why was a 5 speed never made available to the Indian market? I presume that with a 5th overdrive, this car would have been well ahead of its competitors for those days. -Ilango Last edited by ilangop : 26th June 2012 at 13:18. | |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Those were the days when the threesome ruled. This is from IAJ, June 1991- the cover picture, the tech specs comparison and the things under the bonnet of the three cars. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Sad that we cannot publish here in this open forum but i am sure everyone will love to read it. Any chance you can send me the full article scan? I can PM you my email address? | |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Buyers Guide in Auto India of December 1996 featuring the 118 NE and 1.38D ![]() ![]() Yes OK, please pass on your mail id. |
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Still I have 2 issues which need to be sorted out. In 3rd gear, at speeds near 70kmph, the car seems to hesitate while accelerating, like fuel supply is being hampered. I know it was not there when i was running on the mechanical pump. 2nd issue is that car takes a lot of time for warming up. And this problem is not recent (after this vapour lock project). It is since I changed the carburetor to Hitachi from Mikuni in 2007. I even checked the thermostat and it seems to be working fine. Yesterday the ambient temperature was 35deg and yet the needle was not even in the center. It was just a nudge above the cold mark. And i don't think its a reading problem - the engine also takes a lot of fuss till it runs for 10-15 minutes. | |
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![]() Did your needle valve problem get sorted out? Best regards, Behram Dhabhar | |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() The needle valve problem is rectified. I used a carburetor cleaning spray followed by petrol and now things are fine. The tuning is spot-on as per your specifications. But still it takes time warming up ![]() And what about the hesitation at 70kmph in 3rd gear? Should i remove the separator at air filter and make it direct? I suspect the fuel travel is too long - the pipes are almost the required size and not too long. |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Some 118 NE memorabilia here. It includes advertisements, the offer for secured debentures by PAL in 1983 (when the 118 NE was in the embryo stage), the bookings advertisements and also pictures from Autoriders, Bombay ( Indian Auto, April 1992) and other related pictures. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The last two images are from The Hindu, Madras of 10/05/1985 - the day when the 118 NE bookings opened! Last edited by anjan_c2007 : 23rd July 2012 at 21:16. |
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| ![]() I think the chrome bumper is from the original Fiat 124. Never seen any NEs till date with original head rests. I am hunting for the old type NE bumpers for our Viceroy, the same ones that we have on our NE. I personally prefer the old style bumpers compared to the straighter ones that came in later models. Last edited by Scarlet_Rider : 31st July 2012 at 10:56. |
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