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Originally Posted by .sushilkumar FIAT didn;t opened this cafe to Sell coffee like few honorable Bhpians mentioned here. Point in opening these cafes is to revamp the whole brand and look for long term gains rather than short term gains and i am sure this will go a long way in achieving that. |
How? How will it go a long way in doing that? How will opening a cafe revamp the brand of Fiat? Some others have posted some ideas...so let's take a look at them:
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i can only laugh when people say that they plan to survive by selling coffee.
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So can I. So if you're referring to me saying that they will survive by selling coffee, I'm sorry, but in none of my posts have I said that. Someone probably either assumed that or misquoted me. I'll say it again for emphasis so that it doesn't get brought up with reference to me:
I don't think FIAT is opening theses cafes to survive by selling coffee.
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Originally Posted by raj_5004 What is the big deal of this coffee thingy? Mind you, FIAT has not built a brand store in a coffee shop. It has built a coffee stop in a brand store.
What is a brand store for? For some to come & check out the models, for some to buy some mechandise, for owners/fans to come & chit chat about their cars & their experiences. And when owners do meet, they would like to sit, chill and have coffee. Isnt that the purpose of having the coffee shop? |
When you say "models", are you talking about real cars or actual smaller than real size models? If you're talking about the former, then a "brand store" is nothing but a glorified showroom.
However, for the rest of it ... a cafe where Fiat owners can come and talk and chill out and share their experiences, it's a concept that is certainly interesting and could work. But honestly, tell me something ... how many owners/fans are likely to meet for a cup of coffee to chitchat about their cars and their experiences of owning these cars? Owners ... I would say not a majority. Fans ... probably more of them would go to such cafes. In one of my previous posts, I've stated that if Fiat is targeting such aficionados/fans, then it would still make sense.
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Originally Posted by StarrySky Fiat is not trying to sell coffee - they are trying to sell an "experience". A experience where anyone can come in, have a look at the cars and have a discussion on the pros and cons of the car with a representative - over a cup of coffee. |
If people are going to look at the cars, then they need larger spaces. Then, like I said, it becomes a glorified showroom.
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I don't think the Caffe is going to be a point of sale for the cars - the Caffee exists to get people notice the brand and have a (hopefully great) first experience with the brand. Since the Caffe requires much smaller space than a showroom, it allows Fiat to start/run the caffes in places where it is likely to get more attention - like a shopping street or even a popular mall.
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Hmm...this is an interesting strategy. And one that makes sense to me. This could actually work. I mean, if I was in a mall, and I am considering buying a car, and if I see this store in front of me, I'd walk in to get an idea of the cars available and the prices, etc. along with more information on where the dealerships are located, etc.
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Originally Posted by prakash_ajp If you were a fiat owner, you would have known that there is nothing really wrong with Fiat India. Most of the negative opinions floating around are just myths that Fiat has not been able to break. And most people in India don't bother to find the facts for themselves. |
Well, I've been writing in almost all of my posts that neither have I owned a Fiat nor do I know anyone who does. However, it does seem to be the popular opinion around here, and just as an example, here's ONE post that a Fiat owner posted on this very thread:
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Originally Posted by Palio_2005 I think this is a wasteful exercise. Focus on strict quality control and listen to the feedback and make improvements. Better quality control = less visits to A.S.S wch is lower frustration = more sales
Simple equation but FIAT struggling over the years with this. |
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Originally Posted by amit_mechengg guys, instead of bashing fiat for this initiative or bullshitting the concept just treat it as a gesture. |
I think I might have stepped on some Fiat fans' or owners' toes (not referring only to you, amit, but in the general kind of response I'm getting to my posts).
So, let me just clarify
I'm not bashing the concept. I'm merely trying to understand how it fits in and what its intended benefit or concept is. I was/am hoping to have a healthy discussion on this, to try and gauge others' opinions and to possibly act a bit like Devil's advocate so that we have two sides of every argument. If I've been coming across as aggressive or purposely bashing Fiat or the Fiat Caffe idea, I assure you it was unintentional.
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something new and passionate as it has always been with fiat. just consider it as a modern showroom where you can get all the info correctly with a nice ambience and nice authentic coffee.
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But the point is that if you go to the website, you'll see that they're not marketing it as such. They, in fact, are selling points such as good coffee, good ambience, special events (music, etc)...it's not being marketed as a modern showroom, more like a hip 'n' happening hangout place.
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instead of taking you gf to CCD and gulping the same Rs.120 coffee give fiat Caffee a shot too |
Unless my girlfriend is a car enthusiast, she will not want to go to a Fiat Caffe. This is the point I've been trying to make. Your statement compares a Fiat Caffe to a CCD. If I'm in it purely for the coffee, then I'd rather go to wherever it's more convenient, or where the coffee is better. Fiat Caffe might be fun for me to go and sit in the midst of Ferrari scaled models or posters or such other things, but for others uninterested in that kind of stuff, CCD would probably appeal more.
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i think going to fiat caffe and taking a nice look at the cars is more better than walking into tata showroom and wondering where to start from.
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You're completely right about that! If the Caffes are showrooms, I'd certainly like to visit a Fiat showroom (different story as to whether it would make me buy a car!).
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And i can proudly say that i have zero issues with my linea in 1 year and the service i am getting is top notch VIP treatment.
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I am quoting this part just to highlight that I am not ignoring the part where you said your experience with Fiat has been good. In fact, the more experiences I read about, the more I learn.