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See Ertigo in real, drive it, with passengers and check out. From what interiors look like, Innova is going to continue its rule on roads. This one is narrow, with leg room at a premium (atleast from pics). If you do have budget for Innova, go for it, you will never regret! But if you can live with a smaller one with limited leg room, and not expecting more than 5 on long drives, then this is worth considering. There are two major disadvantages with this car - narrow and limited leg room (its too less compared with Innova or Xylo). And the big one - the last row is not split. Either you have the last row with too little luggage space, or you have 5 seats with luggage space. Last edited by samm : 7th January 2012 at 17:35. | |
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| ![]() Excellent. I guess the Ertiga is the closest thing to a station wagon that we'll see in the future. Perfect 5-seater with lots of luggage space (with the rear two seats folded). It's like a Maruti Ritz station wagon! Last edited by anekho : 7th January 2012 at 17:38. |
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Infractions: 0/2 (9) | ![]() Rest assured Toyota wont be sitting idle. There are strong rumors that they are developing a 7 seater MPV on the Etios platform. Toyota must be closely watching how Ertiga performs in the market!! |
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| ![]() Thanks GTO for those juicy pictures and report. Eagerly looking forward to your test drive report. A decent 7 seater from Maruti Suzuki should set the sales charts on fire. IMO, the car cannot carry 7 people and luggage at the same time. It is either 5 people with luggage (by folding 3rd row) or 7 people without luggage. So it is ideal for 5 people for long trips and 7 people for the shorter runs. Since the external dimensions are comparable to an entry level sedan, it can be used for daily commute too (unlike a Scorpio or an Innova that look too bulky for daily commute) Talking of bootspace, even Innova's boot appears smaller than some B-Segment hatchbacks. But Ertiga's boot really seems non-existent. Whatever said and done, there are customers who have a thing for a third row seat. I am one and I like Ertiga more because it is small. :-) If Suzuki can price it closer to entry level sedans (Etios / Mazda / Verito etc.), many competitors will have sleepless nights. I dont think it is unreasonable to expect the pricing to be in that level considering the available specifications (engine / external dimensions / equipment list etc). But, is it safe to have 3rd row seating for such a small and short car? Does it affect visibility of driver? I request the experts to throw more light on the safety aspects for a car with 3 rows. |
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Yes, I agree. I feel this has been done to liberate legroom. Seeing the pics of the Innova and the Ertiga placed together (courtesy Romeomidhun's post on the Ertiga SCOOP pics thread), it is quite evident that the boot seems to be chopped off by at least 200 to 250 mm, which accounts for a major chunk of the 320mm length difference between the Innova and the Ertiga. This means that we can expect the overall legroom to be lesser by only around 75 to 100 mm than the Innova, and this 75 to 100mm legroom shortfall would have been distributed over the 3 rows (an inch or thereabouts for each row). Going by the above reasoning, I expect the legroom in the Ertiga to be pretty decent. Attached Images ![]() ![]() | |
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| ![]() I personally am really looking forward to the Ertiga. I think it's unfair to compare it to an innova although it may draw away some customers away - those who don't necessarily need all the space in innova and prefer the slightly smaller dimensions and flexibility a car like this could offer. I would like this because it offers relatively more compact dimensions for everyday city use compared to innova, ability to move more than 5 people occasionally within the city, superb boot space in 5 seater format (ie 3rd row folded). My fear however is how flexible have they made it. For instance, I think the last row should have been split to allow it to be partially dropped in case you need a little boot space and one of the last row seats. An MPV should really be as smartly designed as possible to ensure usage in as many permutations and combinations as possible and I'm not confident MSIL has truly pushed the envelope on this front. Only a first hand viewing of the car will answer that question I guess. |
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The car by itself is a great move by Maruti. This is a new segment which will see some good numbers and it can cannibalize the current crop of C & even C+ segments. I am look forward for the actual launch Cheers Last edited by KPS : 7th January 2012 at 20:14. | |
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| ![]() I see a lot of people stating that being a Maruti, Ertiga services will be cheap. I dont understand. This is based on Swift platform & uses the same engine [differently tuned]. My Swift D average service costs are 10,000/- every 30K kms which works out to 3/- per KM. As far as I know Innova has a service cost lesser than a Swift D on an average. How exactly is Ertiga service costs cheaper when it shares same parts with Swift?? Or am I getting wrong figures about Innova service costs? Quote:
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That's where the versatility of a true MPV comes in. I still remember our Coorg weekend trip [7 proper adults] where Innova could accomodate a 5'5" guy on the 3rd row behind a 6'2" guy [me!] Both of us had reasonable space for a comfy journey too. And the car ate all the 7 people's luggage without a complaint as well. Ertiga can NEVER do this. For the same reason, I don't think this car will ever be a people mover fleet's favorite. Last edited by swiftnfurious : 7th January 2012 at 20:35. | |||||
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() One of the better looking cars from Maruti, if priced rightly, this could outsell quite a few cars. |
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![]() With those numbers which I got, an Innova is much cheaper from a service perspective! | |
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The Ertiga may make sense on paper, but it's left to be seen how it would do in the market.Maruti must be careful with the pricing. 10 lakhs and above, and they can kiss it goodbye. ![]() Last edited by suhaas307 : 7th January 2012 at 21:49. | |
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| ![]() I do not understand. If you are building a van, if should at least be the size of the Innova. What is the point of calling it a van or MPV, if finally it seats 5 adults only which a hatchback would do. I also doubt if 5 adults also can sit comfortably if the width is the same as the Swift or Ritz. The third row of seats are mere gimmicks for kids to sit in anyway. I expected at least the same dimensions of the Innova and the pricing of a Maruti. Without the dimensions, why buy it at all. Just save up some more money for the Innova. Cheers |
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| ![]() Funny. The so called stonker makes just 12 bhp more than the so called measly engine, and the same torque. And the Innova with the stonker engine takes more than 16 secs to reach 100 kmph while the SX4 that uses the measly engine takes 13 secs. Last edited by civic-sense : 7th January 2012 at 22:33. |
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