[hrn658276]

Originally Posted by indivic

Any clue on the updates to Nano 2013 as compared to 2012 ?

AFAIK, Nano 2013 will have Integrated Music System, Glove Box, new driver seat, larger steering wheel and probably some cosmetic changes.

[tushky]

Saw A Adv in todays Sakal Newspaper. the special edition tata nano has Alloys,music system, and a Glove box.

[CARDEEP]

Not sure about other upgrades, the CNG Nano is caught testing in Mumbai, as per Indiancarsbikes.in report:

http://www.indiancarsbikes.in/cars/2...-corner-63568/

I believe the 2013 Nano & CNG Nano can be launched immediately.

[safari_lover]

Business Line reports quotes a senior Tata Executive saying that a bigger Nano with 1000cc engine would soon hit the market.

Mr . R. Ramakrishnan , Vice-President ( Commercial ) Passenger Cars of Tata Motors said that the 1000cc variant and the big shell -Big Nano would soon hit the market .

source - http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...cle4013660.ece

[safari_lover]

Folks at OnCars.in have caught a Nano on test and are claiming it to be the 800CC petrol engined Nano.

Nothing much to decipher from the pictures apart from the fact that it's a proper test mule with lot of test equipments strapped on. The report says the tyre size has gone up by a inch.

http://www.oncars.in/Car-News-Detail...t-on-test/3547

Can people in the know please comment?

[oxyzen]

While the 3 Cylinder Nano is a good option, what it really needs is
1. Better silencer: Which may be somewhat taken care of
2. Better interiors. Way better
3. Bigger Tyres, better handling & lower Head room/CG.

If so I would buy the Nano if it is priced under 2 Lacs. No questions asked.

[silverado]

Originally Posted by oxyzen

While the 3 Cylinder Nano is a good option, what it really needs is
1. Better silencer: Which may be somewhat taken care of
2. Better interiors. Way better
3. Bigger Tyres, better handling & lower Head room/CG.

If so I would buy the Nano if it is priced under 2 Lacs. No questions asked.

Lower headroom = complete design change , which will not be done.
All the above requirement of your will increase the price tag without doubt.

Hence no point expecting a price tag below 2 lacs, since even the current top end Lx costs 2.40 OTR mumbai.

Inspite of all this, Nano is truly VFM, especially the current special edition.

3 cyl Nano hopefully will also come with Alternate fuel options and that will make it exciting, i am assuming it will cost close to 3 lakhs.

[oxyzen]

Originally Posted by silverado

Lower headroom = complete design change , which will not be done.
All the above requirement of your will increase the price tag without doubt.

Hence no point expecting a price tag below 2 lacs, since even the current top end Lx costs 2.40 OTR mumbai.

Inspite of all this, Nano is truly VFM, especially the current special edition.

3 cyl Nano hopefully will also come with Alternate fuel options and that will make it exciting, i am assuming it will cost close to 3 lakhs.

The reason for Nano's dismal performance is not in the pricing.
It is the lack of outright quality. Be it in NVH or interiors. It feels like a positioning between Alto and Auto. And that is something the market did not accept.
To be honest I quite like the front end of Nano. However the side looks odd due to punny tyres and tallboy shape. The rear is uninspiring as ever. However they did what nobody ever dreamed of doing. It is a shame to see such an effort from Tata go to waste.

While the 3 cylinder engine will definately bring back some aspects of quality, you are right by sating the pricing has be be kept under check.

[reswaran]

In spite of all the problems and skepticism, if TATA wants this product to succeed, they need to definitely give it a new name, and remove all associations with the Nano. Nano was positioned and marketed as a poor man's car. Honorable as the intentions were, the marketing was one of the reasons it failed. Nobody wants to admit they cant afford better.

[silverado]

Originally Posted by oxyzen

It is the lack of outright quality. Be it in NVH or interiors. It feels like a positioning between Alto and Auto. And that is something the market did not accept.
To be honest I quite like the front end of Nano. However the side looks odd due to punny tyres and tallboy shape. The rear is uninspiring as ever. However they did what nobody ever dreamed of doing. It is a shame to see such an effort from Tata go to waste.

While the 3 cylinder engine will definately bring back some aspects of quality, you are right by sating the pricing has be be kept under check.

The reason for Nano's failure has been throughly discussed, so nothing wrong in positioning the car.

Quality is on par for the price you pay, plastic quality is as good as alto.

Design/looks depends on each individual, however masses have loved nano's design and it is a well proportioned design for majority of them.
Even i dont like the high rear end design.

Nano is still not dead,lets wait till Nano diesel is released.

Originally Posted by reswaran

In spite of all the problems and skepticism, if TATA wants this product to succeed, they need to definitely give it a new name, and remove all associations with the Nano. Nano was positioned and marketed as a poor man's car. Honorable as the intentions were, the marketing was one of the reasons it failed. Nobody wants to admit they cant afford better.

True, since car is a desirable commodity in india.
Not sure about change in name strategy.

[simplyself]

Originally Posted by safari_lover

Business Line reports quotes a senior Tata Executive saying that a bigger Nano with 1000cc engine would soon hit the market.



source - http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...cle4013660.ece

So, it may be front engined? I don't think bigger engine can be fitted in the rear.

[san2]

TATA could do some small things to change peoples perception
like a better dealer experience to start with
I went to a local dealer to enquire about Vista and had to search for a person who could tell me details about it and even a layman like me was knowing more than the salesman.
a lot is depending on the Nano which is coming out in march or april

[tushky]

Happened to see Face lifted Nano in Tata Motors from Far Distance. seems like there is only a Bumper change. the front fog lamp case was like Current Suzuki Ritz. there was also a little change in Rear Bumper. didn't notice any other difference.

[Ashley2]

Originally Posted by reswaran

In spite of all the problems and skepticism, if TATA wants this product to succeed, they need to definitely give it a new name, and remove all associations with the Nano. Nano was positioned and marketed as a poor man's car. Honorable as the intentions were, the marketing was one of the reasons it failed. Nobody wants to admit they cant afford better.

You are true about the fact that Nano is a poor man's car. But what is the problem in it. Today you see thousands of people in Big bazaar and Saravana stores and they are there for the simple reason they are cheaper by all means. They know they are buying cheap products and are ready to accept the fact its cheaper. Here the point is cost and quality went hand in hand.

But what actually ruined fortunes of Nano was the huge quality issues making the product unsafe and iterated that cost and quality didnot go hand and hand - meaning quality was cheaper than expected.

If this project goes live, will be yet an another improper product positioning.
This will move the Nano more close to higher priced cars. Nano was designed to create a new space in the Small (Micro) cars. By doing this they are unnecessarily inviting competition.
No idea how much exactly Indica 90hp is selling. Nano 3 cylinder will also be in the same league.

Instead concentrate in the current product and make it reliable, trouble free from the current level.
Tata does the same mistake again and again by leaving base product half-baked and jumping to higher spec'd versions.

[1100D]

On the contrary, a more desirable Nano, will have a rub-off effect on the original target market that the Nano had. Here is why.

Nano was visioned for the Lower income groups, people who found the price gap between a commuter motor bike and a low-end car to be quite high. The family of 4 travelling on a motorbike on a rainy day. To that market, the Nano should have sold. But it failed to do that on grounds of negative publicity regarding the fire incidents and the stigma of being seen in a low-price car. Infact the 1-lakh car hype was actually its death knell.

Given that, most of the initial niggles and problems now stands resolved, the only aspect of the Nano that is preventing it from finding the homes it was envisaged for, is the perception that Nano is a cheap car, meant for people who cannot afford a proper car. It is a perception only.

So it is imperative that Nano also appeals to the people who can afford better cars. A few Nano's being seen driven by the economically better-off folks will elevate the brands desirability.

To that aspect, can Nano actually make itself desirable to the better-off buyers, whats its USP? Rear Engine, Rear Wheel drive, and with more power, it will actually be fun to pilot around. There is nothing else in the market like it today.

I will buy one.