SCOOP Honda Brio DIESEL caught. EDIT: Only for next-gen Brio in 2017

Guna · 25th May 2012, 09:35

This could be CVT version as well. Diesel+CVT would be something!

sgiitk · 25th May 2012, 09:39

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Originally Posted by Guna

This could be CVT version as well. Diesel+CVT would be something!

I will be the first in the queue for the CVT (petrol preferred). Thanks for giving me hope. I did hear some vague rumour that an AT may be coming in the Brio/Jazz by December.

Motoringlover · 25th May 2012, 09:39

Well this is great news, thanks for the scoop, now the only aspect of concern is the launch to market, Honda desperately needs an oil burner in the market - I hope they time it sooner than later, this is a good responsive move considering the shift in market dynamics leaning towards oil burners. They are already late - hope they don't delay longer.

On a side topic - considering Honda after sales does not have experience managing diesel engines, I am not sure if I would want to be the first ones trying this out.

Best - ML

sgiitk · 25th May 2012, 10:04

@Motoringlover; Sorry for the mistake (now corrected) in my post - wrote diesel for CVT which was obvious by the term in parentheses petrol preferred.

I agree that the dealerships may not be adept in handling diesels, but then one can easily expect the engine to last for 100k+ by which time it will probably with its third owner. My problem is that I must have an AT small car (the boss does not drive an MT, and I will also like one) and the options (i10, i20, Dzire) are pretty pathetic.

thumpingheart · 25th May 2012, 10:12

Great scoop!! Really a awesome move by Honda! Brio has been my favourite hatch ever since it was launched. Only hassle was lack of diesel.

I think if it does get launched I'm surely gonna bring it to my stable!

Awesome!

sajo · 25th May 2012, 10:13

Funny, India gets (if this is true) a small Honda diesel before Europe, a market which Honda is just letting slip away from them, thanks to the lack of a small diesel.

arup.misra · 25th May 2012, 10:37

Wow that's indeed good news. The missus was smitten by the Brio ever since it was launched and was about to go ahead book it this weekend. Her running isn't high to scare my wallet. With this news maybe I can convince her to wait a bit.

BunnyPunia · 25th May 2012, 10:41

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Originally Posted by iTNerd

According to this video, this car (same number) is on re-test for ARAI mileage and is a petrol. From gaadi.com

Upgraded Honda Brio petrol caught on test - YouTube

Yes indeed - sorry to play spoil-sport but this isnt the diesel Brio. I had caught the same car (reg no 1172) and the i-vtech badge was sitting there at the back. Only a few wires were hanging inside the car and the driver never went over 65km/h - probably doing some fuel economy runs.

More info on this car and the video - EXCLUSIVE VIDEO – Upgraded Brio coming? - Gaadi.com

moralfibre · 25th May 2012, 10:44

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Originally Posted by smashnerd

Great scoop. Could it be Fiats 1.3L national engine under that hood? Or maybe a Renault? This should get Honda back on the front foot again if they price it sweet.

I don't think they have any agreement with Fiat.

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Originally Posted by BunnyPunia

Yes indeed - sorry to play spoil-sport but this isnt the diesel Brio. I had caught the same car (reg no 1172) and the i-vtech badge was sitting there at the back.

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Originally Posted by extreme_torque

I am still not sure if its a diesel. I would have expected Honda to launch it in City first given that a 1.6 litre engine is already in the works.

Reliable sources have confirmed that a Brio diesel is being launched soon. A smoke emitting Petrol Honda Brio is unlikely. I'll give kpzen benefit of doubt as I am sure he can distinguish between a Petrol and Diesel engine sound.

BunnyPunia · 25th May 2012, 10:48

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

Reliable sources have confirmed that a Brio diesel is being launched soon.

With due respect to the sources, even a diesel City was coming and then it wasn't coming (http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...rs-away-6.html).
It is indeed true that one day, most Honda offerings will have diesel option - no doubt about that. My only point - it might not be so soon. The car I saw clearly had the i-vtec badge. My 2 cents

sgiitk · 25th May 2012, 11:08

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Originally Posted by sajo

Funny, India gets (if this is true) a small Honda diesel before Europe, a market which Honda is just letting slip away from them, thanks to the lack of a small diesel.

I also heard that in 2010 for the first time diesels outsold petrols in Europe. This is a market (except France) where diesel and petrol prices are about the same!

hrman · 25th May 2012, 11:10

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CARDEEP · 25th May 2012, 11:30

@kpzen, how was it holding on to the tarmac on Gurgaon-FBD Road (as it appears from the pic that you have posted)... I mean that this road has few curves & few sections where the there are inclines & declines. Did it (appear to) slow down on the curves or inclines (especially around the area where there are radars set up by the defense forces) & just before the proposed toll plaza when you drive from Gurgaon?

GTO · 25th May 2012, 11:33

Super scoop! Honda does have intentions of developing a 1.2L diesel engine, and I'm pretty sure that's the one under the hood of this Brio. A 1.5L mill would be overkill for the li'l hatch, and I doubt the front part of the light Brio monocoque could carry such a large engine too. Then, there is the question of a 1.5L turbo diesel fitting into the engine bay.

The Brio petrol is priced very well. That automatically leaves room for a well-priced diesel.

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Originally Posted by rjalihal

Besides in a country like India, where diesel cars account for 60% of all passenger cars

More importantly, if you count cars that offer a diesel engine, the split is more like 75:25 in favour of the diesel variant.

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Originally Posted by iTNerd

According to this video, this car (same number) is on re-test for ARAI mileage and is a petrol. From gaadi.com

Both are clearly different cars. Plus, Kpzen clearly mentioned hearing diesel clatter as he passed by, and black smoke too.

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Originally Posted by sajo

Funny, India gets (if this is true) a small Honda diesel before Europe, a market which Honda is just letting slip away from them, thanks to the lack of a small diesel.

Not so funny if you bring in the i20 that sells more in India than any single European country.

driving_smartly · 25th May 2012, 11:34

Really a great scoop. Since they are testing the diesel engine on Brio, they are really backing this wonderful hatch which would offer total value for money when launched. On my wish list Jazz too should get a diesel engine with AT which will ultimately turn it into a complete package for potential customers.

With petrol price adding more woes i think a petrol head like me would be more than happy to get a diesel car in near future.

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Motoringlover BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 417 Thanked: 205 Times View My Garage	Well this is great news, thanks for the scoop, now the only aspect of concern is the launch to market, Honda desperately needs an oil burner in the market - I hope they time it sooner than later, this is a good responsive move considering the shift in market dynamics leaning towards oil burners. They are already late - hope they don't delay longer. On a side topic - considering Honda after sales does not have experience managing diesel engines, I am not sure if I would want to be the first ones trying this out. Best - ML
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thumpingheart BHPian Join Date: May 2012 Location: Pune Posts: 329 Thanked: 187 Times	*re: SCOOP* Honda Brio DIESEL caught. EDIT: Only for next-gen Brio in 2017** Great scoop!! Really a awesome move by Honda! Brio has been my favourite hatch ever since it was launched. Only hassle was lack of diesel. I think if it does get launched I'm surely gonna bring it to my stable! Awesome!
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SCOOP Honda Brio DIESEL caught. EDIT: Only for next-gen Brio in 2017