Skoda Superb DSG 7 Speed DQ200 failures- China gets official reaction, why not India? When i drove the Skoda Superb for the first time, i could not believe they were actually offering so much for a price tag lower than 20 lakh rupees, the car is talented enough to compete with most 40 lakh rupee cars. The best selling variant and the most sensibly price variant 1.8 TSI with 7 Speed DSG comes at a very good price. Priced few lakhs cheaper than the Diesel variant, this variant is good enough to confuse most Diesel buyers into buying Petrol variant. But i still do not recommend this variant at all, not even to my enemies. Reason: Ask thousands of struggling owners who face multiple gearbox failures every year. This particular 7 Speed DSG gearbox is known to fail and the failure rate is extremely high in India. Even on Team-BHP we have countless discussions on this, and a long list of owners who have faced/ are facing this problem. Thanks to our country's non existent consumer laws and absence of any automotive regulatory authority like the NHSTA in United States, Skoda has not offered a recall or any other kind of relief package to its customers.
Links to a few ownership threads discussing this failure: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post2787300 http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ced-skoda.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...se-closed.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post2498688 http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ml#post2785096
VW China has apologized to its Chinese customers for the problems they faced with this particular gearbox. In China, they have agreed to extend the warranty to 10 year / 1,60,000 kms. Earlier VW refused this but now they have taken this steps after recommendation from the Chinese department concerned- The General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine's (AQSIQ) Defective Products Management Center . VW is offering similar 10 year warranty to its North American customers, my question is why this step motherly treatment to Indian customers? http://autonews.gasgoo.com/china-new...x-120525.shtml
Good thing is this trouble prone gearbox(DQ200) is offered only in a single variant of only one car in whole VW group here in India. While Skoda has offered this gearbox from day one in the new Superb, VW stayed away from this gearbox. This might be one of the reasons why Passat does not come with a TSI engine, even the previous gen Passat which had the TSI engine came only with a manual transmission.
Worldwide, the DQ200 DSG 7 speed transmission is used for FWD cars in VW group with torque output lower than 250 nm of Torque, this is the maximum amount of torque this gearbox can handle. This dry type gearbox is slightly more efficient than the wet type 6 speed DSG. VW even has issued special instructions in Owner's manual for some cars, here are special instructions for DSG 7 dry type in Golf GT: Quote:
The 7-speed dual clutch gearbox can, for example, become too hot when the vehicle pulls off regularly, long periods of "crawling speed" or stop and go traffic. The overheating of the gearbox is indicated by the warning lamp and possibly also by a text in a combi-instrument display. An acoustic warning tone may also be heard. Stop the vehicle and allow the gearbox to cool down.
- If you stop the vehicle on a gradient, do not attempt to stop it from rolling back by depressing the accelerator when a gear has been selected. The automatic gearbox could overheat and be damaged.
- Never allow the vehicle to roll in position N, particularly if the ignition is switched off. The automatic gearbox will not be lubricated and could be damaged.
| Some points to avoid confusion: - All the DSG gearboxes in VW and Skoda cars are shared, while Audi have a modified version of the DSG 'box to handle more torque.
- Superb Diesel along with other Skoda and VW cars in India comes with a much more reliable DSG 6-speed wet type DQ250 transmission.
- Audi's 7 speed S-tronic (DSG) DQ500 is a different transmission from the 7-speed DSG discussed here.
- 4 years / 1,00,000 kms is the maximum warranty (extended, Skoda Shield) that can be had on the Skoda Superb in India.
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