Soon Multijet will rule

aseem · 12th December 2006, 22:14

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Originally Posted by dileepd11

Any idea when the new indica with the Fiat 1.3L multijet engine will be available in the market?

Well I have an idea but have to keep my sources hidden. All I can say is very soon (and I mean SOON) you will be hearing about the 1.3 L engine. But hey, I tipped you off... Oops, I think I disclosed more than I was supposed to..

omvnbhatt · 13th December 2006, 01:05

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Originally Posted by aseem

Well I have an idea but have to keep my sources hidden. All I can say is very soon (and I mean SOON) you will be hearing about the 1.3 L engine. But hey, I tipped you off... Oops, I think I disclosed more than I was supposed to..

will it be indigo with multiget? face lifted indigo is made for this?

sreenivass · 13th December 2006, 10:32

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Originally Posted by Harshavarthan

75 and 85 bhp 1.3 16v Multijet
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105 bhp and 120 bhp 1.9 Multijet

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I'd love to get the 120 BHP/ 200 Nm 1.9D, is it linea thats going to have it or some other model ?

Do you have any idea about the numbers 0-60 KMPH and 0-100 KMPH for one of the cars with this engine.

What about the 140+ BHP Diesel people thought would power Fiat Linea, is it not 1.9 D ?

gemithomas · 9th October 2007, 09:11

Did you see the list of cars that would have the FIAT 1.3 Multi jet engine by 2008.

FIAT Grande Punto*
FIAT Linea*
FIAT Palio Stile*
Chevrolet Aveo
Chevrolet U-Va
Maruti Suzuki Swift
Maruti Suziki SX4
Maruti Suzuki Splash
Tata Indica (X1)
Tata Indigo
* If at all FIAT doesnt feel otherwise at the last moment

With various companies bringing out their models with almost the same heart (maybe in different tune states), what would be the actual differentiating factor for the buyer.

dadu · 9th October 2007, 09:52

Body design, power delivery and transmission etc, although it might become a fine line, but ppl will still be able to feel the difference.

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Originally Posted by gemithomas

With various companies bringing out their models with almost the same heart (maybe in different tune states), what would be the actual differentiating factor for the buyer.

GTO · 9th October 2007, 10:07

Look at it this way : Atleast, their balance sheets will look better

. Selling 15,000 engines a month ought to be more profitable than selling 200 cars.

neoonwheels · 9th October 2007, 10:51

Exactly GTO, I guess they are receiving more royalty from Suzuki than selling their cars... Buttttttttt, The models in the pipeline from FIAT are no ordinary cars.. Grande Punto has put FIAT on track in Europe... If TATA and FIAT both compliment their portfolio, FIAT and TATA would be benefited.. Even the news of Adventure getting MJD treatment done is roaming around.. I hope TATA provides good service support to FIAT so FIAT can aggressively bring their portfolio... But this solely depends on the number game...

gemithomas · 9th October 2007, 11:48

FIAT has sold its Panda platform to ford for its ka. Maybe we would mature into a stage where resource sharing would be the key thing and every company would focus on their own core competencies. Probably what would differentiate the products would be left to designs, equipment levels and service backbones owned.

How about outsourcing your service backbone too. Wouldnt that be interesting. Just think of FIAT or GM outsourcing its servicing to maruti or hyundai!!! That would be quite interesting a move.

finneyp · 9th October 2007, 12:08

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Originally Posted by gemithomas

How about outsourcing your service backbone too. Wouldnt that be interesting. Just think of FIAT or GM outsourcing its servicing to maruti or hyundai!!! That would be quite interesting a move.

That is what Fiat has done in India, it has outsourced Sales & Service to Tata Motors!
With the increased portfolio in the coming years for both the Cos. not sure how they are going to manage...!

gemithomas · 9th October 2007, 16:29

Just imagine of the new look Chevrolet U-VA coming with the 1.3 engine. It should be a steal if they price it well. Probably it would be close to the Getz, Swift category. Chevy could surely try to bring doen the price with so many local suppliers for the engine components. If at all they set in for a killer price, they would be in for a good show.

abhibh · 9th October 2007, 16:32

Some rumours are that SX4 will be 1.9 JTD and so will be Linea

MaserQ · 9th October 2007, 18:35

Its almost like cars are built around the 1.3 fiat diesel! I hope this means lower cost for engine spares. I would like to see the 1.9 JTD in the SX4 and linea. Even in 90/100 bhp form, the 1.3 JTD would never be a match for the Magnum diesel.

diwa · 9th October 2007, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by gemithomas

Did you see the list of cars that would have the FIAT 1.3 Multi jet engine by 2008.

FIAT Grande Punto*
FIAT Linea*
FIAT Palio Stile*
Chevrolet Aveo
Chevrolet U-Va
Maruti Suzuki Swift
Maruti Suziki SX4
Maruti Suzuki Splash
Tata Indica (X1)
Tata Indigo
* If at all FIAT doesnt feel otherwise at the last moment

With various companies bringing out their models with almost the same heart (maybe in different tune states), what would be the actual differentiating factor for the buyer.

The main thing is going to be the price. I won't buy a Tata Indica if the price is going to be same as the swift.

Second is going to be the A.S.S.

Since Maruti has launched the 1.3 Multijet, they would have already trained there service guys on it. Maybe GM/FIAT can look into roping the authorised maruti service stations ( am not refering to the dealers here) who have been trained by Maruti on the 1.3 Multijet across the country to do A.S.S for this diesel engines alone.

FERRO · 9th October 2007, 19:26

lets give credit where its due its not 100% Fiat engine agreed Fiat developed it but with help from GM finance and Suzuki's technology

lamborghini · 9th October 2007, 19:46

Technically, this is a win win situation for FIAT as well.
Since all the cars will have the same engine, consumers will now start looking at other aspects such as A.S.S, space, comfort, handling, looks, etc. and most of these are Fiats strengths.

9th October 2007, 09:11	#34
gemithomas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,366 Thanked: 143 Times View My Garage	All the Same? Did you see the list of cars that would have the FIAT 1.3 Multi jet engine by 2008. FIAT Grande Punto* FIAT Linea* FIAT Palio Stile* Chevrolet Aveo Chevrolet U-Va Maruti Suzuki Swift Maruti Suziki SX4 Maruti Suzuki Splash Tata Indica (X1) Tata Indigo * If at all FIAT doesnt feel otherwise at the last moment With various companies bringing out their models with almost the same heart (maybe in different tune states), what would be the actual differentiating factor for the buyer.
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GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,483 Thanked: 300,268 Times View My Garage	Look at it this way : Atleast, their balance sheets will look better . Selling 15,000 engines a month ought to be more profitable than selling 200 cars.
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9th October 2007, 10:51	#37
neoonwheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 2,064 Thanked: 1,875 Times View My Garage	Exactly GTO, I guess they are receiving more royalty from Suzuki than selling their cars... Buttttttttt, The models in the pipeline from FIAT are no ordinary cars.. Grande Punto has put FIAT on track in Europe... If TATA and FIAT both compliment their portfolio, FIAT and TATA would be benefited.. Even the news of Adventure getting MJD treatment done is roaming around.. I hope TATA provides good service support to FIAT so FIAT can aggressively bring their portfolio... But this solely depends on the number game...
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9th October 2007, 11:48	#38
gemithomas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,366 Thanked: 143 Times View My Garage	FIAT has sold its Panda platform to ford for its ka. Maybe we would mature into a stage where resource sharing would be the key thing and every company would focus on their own core competencies. Probably what would differentiate the products would be left to designs, equipment levels and service backbones owned. How about outsourcing your service backbone too. Wouldnt that be interesting. Just think of FIAT or GM outsourcing its servicing to maruti or hyundai!!! That would be quite interesting a move. Last edited by gemithomas : 9th October 2007 at 11:49.
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9th October 2007, 16:29	#40
gemithomas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,366 Thanked: 143 Times View My Garage	Just imagine of the new look Chevrolet U-VA coming with the 1.3 engine. It should be a steal if they price it well. Probably it would be close to the Getz, Swift category. Chevy could surely try to bring doen the price with so many local suppliers for the engine components. If at all they set in for a killer price, they would be in for a good show.
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9th October 2007, 16:32	#41
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	Some rumours are that SX4 will be 1.9 JTD and so will be Linea
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9th October 2007, 18:35	#42
MaserQ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,196 Thanked: 166 Times	Its almost like cars are built around the 1.3 fiat diesel! I hope this means lower cost for engine spares. I would like to see the 1.9 JTD in the SX4 and linea. Even in 90/100 bhp form, the 1.3 JTD would never be a match for the Magnum diesel.
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9th October 2007, 19:26	#44
FERRO BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 313 Thanked: 2 Times	lets give credit where its due its not 100% Fiat engine agreed Fiat developed it but with help from GM finance and Suzuki's technology
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9th October 2007, 19:46	#45
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,112 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	Technically, this is a win win situation for FIAT as well. Since all the cars will have the same engine, consumers will now start looking at other aspects such as A.S.S, space, comfort, handling, looks, etc. and most of these are Fiats strengths.
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