Flop cars in our market

akshay4587 · 17th August 2009, 22:40

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Originally Posted by sam_boy

This is my list :

1. Opel Corsa Royale ( One of the best looking cars)
2. Opel Corsa Swing
3. Baleno Altura
4. Tata Indigo Marina
5. Sonalika Rhino !!!!
6. Sumo Grande
7. I know I invite many brickbats but to me i20 Petrol is a definite flop.

go out on roads and check out their numbers you may want to change your decision.
flop in your opinion
but as far as numbers are concerned i think its outselling the punto.(i am talking with no of spottings on road,not exact sales figures).

Ravveendrra · 17th August 2009, 23:14

IIRC, the Opel Vectra was sold in India only against import entitlements and had to be paid for out of foreign currency. In other words, it was an import and was not available freely. Only exporters and other foreign exchange earners could buy it. This explains its rarity.

Cheers,

raj_5004 · 18th August 2009, 09:29

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Originally Posted by Ravveendrra

IIRC, the Opel Vectra was sold in India only against import entitlements and had to be paid for out of foreign currency. In other words, it was an import and was not available freely. Only exporters and other foreign exchange earners could buy it. This explains its rarity.

Cheers,

i think it was quite freely available in all GM showrooms. we were almost going to buy one (we are no exporters!) & had visited two showrooms, TD the vectra in one of them, took the price quotations, but then wisely decided to wait & watch the response of the car in the market.

Tejas@perioimpl · 18th August 2009, 10:21

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

i think it was quite freely available in all GM showrooms. we were almost going to buy one (we are no exporters!) & had visited two showrooms, TD the vectra in one of them, took the price quotations, but then wisely decided to wait & watch the response of the car in the market.

I agree. It was freely available to anyone, atleast in bombay for sure.

shankar.balan · 18th August 2009, 10:31

ZEN classic
ZEN Carbon and Steel
Sipani Montana
Dolphin
Dolphin Station Wagon
Rhino
Mahindra Festara
Opel Astra, Vectra, Swing, Corsa, Sail
Daewoo Matiz - then there was an "upgraded' version of the Cielo - cant remember what it was called
Maruti Versa
Three wheeler Vikram
Standard Rover 2000
Rover Montego
Then in Coimbatore there was one locally designed and fabricated car from the same guys who made Jaya Diesel engines - that also failed.

naveenvenkatesh · 18th August 2009, 11:12

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Originally Posted by shankar.balan

Daewoo Matiz - then there was an "upgraded' version of the Cielo - cant remember what it was called

Hey Shankar, i think that model was called Nexia. Lot of people thought that was still Cielo. I don't remember what the changes were new in that model. Some cosmetic changes to the front and rear i think.

Technocrat · 18th August 2009, 13:27

Sigh people are still confused about Flop cars.

I see Zen Steel & Carbon in the list, how can limited Edition cars be called Flop?

diabloo · 18th August 2009, 13:40

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Originally Posted by shankar.balan

Daewoo Matiz - then there was an "upgraded' version of the Cielo - cant remember what it was called

Matiz during its time was doing more than 4000 per month. So it can't be classified as flop.

dhrishikesh · 18th August 2009, 13:45

The upgraded version of Cielo wased named as Cielo Nexia.
Its really a bad car, but used to give better AC cooling than other cars.

shankar.balan · 18th August 2009, 14:55

ok
my take on flop also means impractical given our penchant for VFM etc

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Originally Posted by Technocrat

Sigh people are still confused about Flop cars.

I see Zen Steel & Carbon in the list, how can limited Edition cars be called Flop?

Technocrat · 18th August 2009, 15:09

Well VFM varries from Individual to individual.

Anyways I wasnt directing it at you, I have often seen people refer to even the Palio S10 as flop simply because there arent enough of them on the road, not knowing that they were a limited edition.

Some have also mentioned Matiz which was in no way a flop.

beejay · 18th August 2009, 15:15

The kajah beedi people from Kerala had launched a vehicle christened, Kazwa. This flopped miserably.

anekho · 18th August 2009, 15:54

civic hybrid! Premature for the market IMO.

cheers

tj123 · 18th August 2009, 16:01

Some threads mentioned Carbon & Steel models of Maruti as flop.
Actually these cars were export surplus which later Maruti presented to the Indian market as Limited Edition models.

They managed to sell all the limited editions hence don’t think it’s a flop.

amtak · 18th August 2009, 17:06

I wont consider Rhino a flop. Its odd looking. It sells like hot cakes up north and the company is trying to build a dealer base down south.

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Ravveendrra Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,391 Thanked: 446 Times View My Garage	IIRC, the Opel Vectra was sold in India only against import entitlements and had to be paid for out of foreign currency. In other words, it was an import and was not available freely. Only exporters and other foreign exchange earners could buy it. This explains its rarity. Cheers,
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shankar.balan BANNED Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,368 Thanked: 23,139 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/2 (8)	ZEN classic ZEN Carbon and Steel Sipani Montana Dolphin Dolphin Station Wagon Rhino Mahindra Festara Opel Astra, Vectra, Swing, Corsa, Sail Daewoo Matiz - then there was an "upgraded' version of the Cielo - cant remember what it was called Maruti Versa Three wheeler Vikram Standard Rover 2000 Rover Montego Then in Coimbatore there was one locally designed and fabricated car from the same guys who made Jaya Diesel engines - that also failed.
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Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Sigh people are still confused about Flop cars. I see Zen Steel & Carbon in the list, how can limited Edition cars be called Flop?
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dhrishikesh BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mumbai / Pune B Posts: 806 Thanked: 214 Times	The upgraded version of Cielo wased named as Cielo Nexia. Its really a bad car, but used to give better AC cooling than other cars.
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Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Well VFM varries from Individual to individual. Anyways I wasnt directing it at you, I have often seen people refer to even the Palio S10 as flop simply because there arent enough of them on the road, not knowing that they were a limited edition. Some have also mentioned Matiz which was in no way a flop.
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beejay Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Nilgiris Posts: 1,963 Thanked: 204 Times View My Garage	The kajah beedi people from Kerala had launched a vehicle christened, Kazwa. This flopped miserably.
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anekho Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: . Posts: 1,995 Thanked: 684 Times	civic hybrid! Premature for the market IMO. cheers
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tj123 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BLR Posts: 1,148 Thanked: 680 Times	Some threads mentioned Carbon & Steel models of Maruti as flop. Actually these cars were export surplus which later Maruti presented to the Indian market as Limited Edition models. They managed to sell all the limited editions hence don’t think it’s a flop.
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amtak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai - The city of Sea Link!!! Posts: 2,914 Thanked: 899 Times View My Garage	I wont consider Rhino a flop. Its odd looking. It sells like hot cakes up north and the company is trying to build a dealer base down south.
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