Nope, it was a NA 2 litre unit.
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Originally Posted by DWind Hi,
Does anybody have the specs for the erstwhile Sipani Montego? Was it not the first Common Rail Diesel car to be sold in the country? |
Also the Ikon 1.3 pushrod petrol engine that bombed big time forcing Ford to bring the 1.3 ROCAM.
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Originally Posted by throttleking Ford escort and Ikon 1.8 Diesel |
1. As someone pointed out, the vehicle is positioned as a Off road vehicle, but to have a real off road vehicle, you will need a bunch of mods anyway.
- Apparently the stock thar can do 90% of the trails out there - which in itself a win. If I were the company MD, I would definitely consider a ton before building a vehicle that can do 100% of the off roading but will be bought only by a handful of "hard-core" folks. Someone has already given the Harley analogy here.
2. What I don't understand is why the hard-core off roaders can't take the solid axle DI vehicle, get nice tyres and a lift kit if needed - and do the off roading in that.
All in all, this vehicle is out there in the market. May be you won't buy it. I will buy it - and there will be a segment that will be willing to buy this and mod it to suit their needs (My mods will revolve around comfort / road presence and minimal off roading for example. So I will change the interiors, get better seats, fit a better dash / finish it as possible, get power windows, get central locking, get alloys, get a good bull bar, get hard top, get AC, get a great ICE and so on).
I had a conversation with DB, and partly I do agree with him (NO - these are not his views.). This vehicle is targeted at the hard-core "Modders" out there like me (He has repeatedly mentioned this in his posts) - and not the hardcore off roaders / pure lifestyle folks. For Modders like me, cheapness of vehicle is paramount. We don't want a bad set of alloys from the company that we will get replaced on day 1. What we want is a basic chassis with basic interiors - and I guess I am content as a cow here because my needs have been completely met.
FWIW, if Mahindra is to put in the right effort into finish / HT/ AC - the vehicle price would have gone up by another 1.5L, (See the other 100 bhp / high torque good interior SUVs in market. Don't compare it to some 50 bhp "car") which honestly I would have hated - because I would have thrown them out right away anyway.
Some answers to Shankar.balan:
You claim to be a loyal M&M man - so you must know what they have delivered in this segment. I know it, I was happy with my Invader back then (Same quality interiors / worse), and I am happy now. It is all in the expectations.
I also see that you have completely glossed over the fact that M&M spent a puny sum on this project. I don't agree with the validity of the question "How can M&M do this bad finishing??". After all, Microsoft released Windows ME and Vista (I should know - I was a part of MS then!) - and it is a Multi-billion dollar company. For all the hue and cry, people still bought Vista - because it did a basic job of whatever was expected, and sys-admins out there made it work. People WILL buy Thars and make it work.
I would just thank DB/Spike for putting in the energy in addressing this tiny modder segment and buy if I want to or ditch it if I don't. I don't see a point in bashing it repeatedly (and worse, still buying it!) when nobody is forcing anyone to buy it.
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Originally Posted by shankar.balan So why can we not accept some criticism of M&M too if they attempt to palm off similar rubbish quality to the consumer in the marketplace? |
Don't judge a book buy its cover. Interiors can be rectified, dash/seats can be replaced. May be you don't want to - but that's your opinion. But rubbishing the whole vehicle is uncalled for.
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Originally Posted by shankar.balan Maybe Im being a bit dramatic |
Those words ... well, you said it