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Originally Posted by funkykar Forums are created not only for the love towards the brand or specific model of car. Its also because of issues. Service or spares issues. If everything is good with no issues am sure people would solely prefer forums like team-bhp than have xyz forums. I love my Maruti 800 and my RX 135, since its easy to maintain and niggle free, I don't look for any specific club/forums. To own and maintain a Fiat, many would need such forums
One area isn't highlighted in this thread. Why doesn't Fiat sell well with reasonably good products(Subjective, but I feel it is/was good enough to sell atleast 4-5k units a month)? Answer: After Sales Service. Barring a few service centre's, rest are poor. It cant match even industry averages. Number of service centres are also less. Parts issues are not totally sorted out and one often has to wait for one or the other parts. The used car prices often is an indicator on how good spares and service of a brand is. Used Maruti 800s and Altos are more expensive than top end Palios of same age and condition, even though when new Palios costed atleast double. Even a person looking for a very cheap car wouldn't easily buy a Palio even if its dirt cheap prices. Similarly, don't we see a poorer resale for Punto and Linea? I am a beneficiary of this and brought a used Linea MJD top end emotion pack for cost lesser of used Swift VDI of same age.
Unless service and spares are improved, get the 1.5/1.6MJD, Avventura, face lifts, Abarths or 500's nothing will change. At max, it will give a temporary surge in Sales. In this aspect TJet is a good example. Even though its so fun to drive and adequate performance, it doesn't sell. Why would you expect a Punto TJet or a Linea 1.5/1.6MJD to set Sales charts on Fire? |
Quoting my own post here. Don't know if I ever done that before LOL.
In the first paragraph, it is not meant that forums are created to take up service issues or spares issues or the forum owns up issues of members. Hope this was not how one perceived when it was read first. The very first sentence refers to loving the brand/model.
When FASS themselves cannot provide good service or stock adequate spares, how can any forum do it? You may get away with a Punto or Linea with service and spares for now. But, if you talk Palio or Uno, in my honest opinion, for many at some point of time turn to google and may end up getting info from some Fiat forum and they may also end up joining it.
My very own experience:
1) When I got my Padmini's and 118NE's in 2007ish, I needed help!!! I mean it. No garage I visited was ready to support this car, don't know how these classics work and apart from knowing how to drive, I was 0 in knowledge of cars. Through google, found an orkut group with similar people. The need of the hour was for me to jel up with them and get tips of maintenance like where to service, where to get parts and so on. Over a period of time, a bunch of 4 guys including me became close friends just by owning the 1100's. We created a club to impart the little knowledge we had. We may not have been help for many, but surely inspired many elderly owners to not scrap/sell it. There were many occasions where 70+ aged members invited us to their homes so that their family members get convinced and not pester them to scrap/sell their cars. We have had some other way instances too. Their children calling us and requesting us to tell the member to give up on their classic and move on to newer cars as the family saw driving a old car to be disrespectful.
2) Later on, I brought a used Palio. Palio had many niggles. I joined PUG as I felt again its a need of the hour. I bought Palio knowing pros and cons anyways. Slowly, I made many friends from here.
3) Later on I joined another forum TFI and was a silent member as I really did not have anything to infer from nor to contribute. Slowly I was bit active there and then left from there.
4) There is a MFW forum too, was part of that too for a while.
5) Now I am part of TFMC which is on facebook and very happy being there.
Do I need any of the Fiat forums at all? Hell yes! Is it just for love of Fiats? No way. I need it as I have many many friends and also I may need help in understanding my Fiat(I keep changing once a while, whatever is latest), discuss issues, read other member car issues, learn where and how to source parts, learn about alternate independent garages to service and so on.
This said, I re-iterate, for the other vehicles I love (I love my RX more than my Fiats), I don't look for any forums and don't even care if it exists.