What nationality car manufacturer knows India best?

rangaraj · 25th May 2006, 16:26

We have had car companies from many countries.. Who knows how to do business in India the best???
Hyundai has completed 10 years, Suzuki has completed a good number of years.. Who has learnt to adapt themselves the best to succeed in satisfying the Indian customer's needs?
1. Japanese
- Honda
- Toyota
- Suzuki (though some may claim it was half Indian)
- Mitsubishi (somewhat similar to suzuki - Hindustan motors probably had a lot more say to their fortune in India)

2. Koreans
- Hyundai
- Daewoo

3. Germans
- Opel
- Mercedes

4. Italians
- Fiat ( I would consider PAL more Indian)

5. French
- Peugeot

6. Americans
- GM
- Ford

7 British

narasimha raju · 25th May 2006, 16:30

It is Japanese and Koreans. They provide what exactly indians want to buy.

jkdas · 25th May 2006, 17:18

Tata anyone?..............................

parijnan · 25th May 2006, 17:39

The Japanese and Koreans provide the right cars for the Indian market. The Japanese cars have greater snob value though.

sbasak · 25th May 2006, 17:41

[SIZE=2]Japanese (and then Korean) - who has got doubts?

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hawkeye · 25th May 2006, 17:49

The Japanese and Koreans lead here. However, I would say that the Koreans have offered more to us than the Japs have. They may have failed on some instances, but have had definitely more success in reading our minds.

Hence my vote for the Koreans.

Gordon · 25th May 2006, 17:51

Wonder why India isn't mentioned in the list. TATA is a company that has been providing us with the Indica range of cars which is being bettered year-by-year.

The best among these have to be the Japanese and Koreans. To be precise: Suzuki, Honda and Hyundai. They have done a very good job and it reflects on their sales figures.

However,
among the above mentioned, the worst company would be Peugeot. Peugeot entered the Indian market by introducing the 309 in collaboration with PAL. No doubt, that they had one of the best diesel engines of that time, but overall the company wasn't properly organized. The company had a lot of differences with its partners and eventually pulled out. Thw company just left the country without any notice. According to sources:

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Originally Posted by Rediff.com

The company had, in fact, pulled out of India without resolving several key issues, which include outstanding to financial institutions, vendors and even booking advances.

Moreover, Peugeot doesn't seem to be interested in the Indian market. Even if they do, I doubt they would be popular judging by their past habits. This is what the company announced:

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Originally Posted by Rediff.com

Automobile Peugeot's global spokesman Paul Alvarez, said India was a ''forgotten and buried market as far as Peugeot cars are concerned.'' ''We had a failed adventure in India and do not intend to venture back to the market having burnt our fingers there.''

typeOnegative · 25th May 2006, 17:56

I would have to go with the Koreans (Hyundai). I dont agree with the fact that the Japanese know the market better. They (Suzuki) have been here a long time and had the right products from the beginning. If they (the Japanese cos) wanted they could have kind of wiped out most of Hyundais gains but they did not. Imagine what would have happened if Honda /Toyota did not sell their cars at that premium.

Sid Schumacher · 25th May 2006, 18:08

The Koreans have given the Japs a run for their money ever since they entered the market. It was only after Hyundai entered, that Suzuki had some proper competition from a foreign manufacturer.

aZa · 25th May 2006, 18:12

Koreans offcourse.... They brought the CRDi for the comman man. And nothing beats the Hyundais in VFM.

rangaraj · 25th May 2006, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

Wonder why India isn't mentioned in the list. TATA is a company that has been providing us with the Indica range of cars which is being bettered year-by-year.

The best among these have to be the Japanese and Koreans. To be precise: Suzuki, Honda and Hyundai. They have done a very good job and it reflects on their sales figures.

However,
among the above mentioned, the worst company would be Peugeot. Peugeot entered the Indian market by introducing the 309 in collaboration with PAL. No doubt, that they had one of the best diesel engines of that time, but overall the company wasn't properly organized. The company had a lot of differences with its partners and eventually pulled out. Thw company just left the country without any notice. According to sources:

Moreover, Peugeot doesn't seem to be interested in the Indian market. Even if they do, I doubt they would be popular judging by their past habits. This is what the company announced:

The reason for Indians not being there is that we ought to know best about what the Indians want!!! So disrespect to Indian auto manufacturers!

Given that, it was more a perspective of who are the ferangs who know us best? Who knows what product mix will sell best? Who prices their products best for the Indian pocket? Who delivers the best VFM?

I guess there will be a division of who knows the Indian middleclass best? Who knows the Indian rich best? But then the poll is on ;-)..

mail4ajo · 25th May 2006, 19:05

Japanese knows Indian market best. They are all accross the place, cars, bikes, LCVs, Generators, Fishing engines etc

Perhaps the only place they lost the bus was LCV category, TATA 407 just blew off Nissan, Mitsubishi, Mazda & Toyota to smitters. Are any of these still in the indian LCV market?

mail4ajo · 25th May 2006, 19:10

Moreover, Peugeot doesn't seem to be interested in the Indian market.
Even if they do, I doubt they would be popular judging by their past habits. This is what the company announced:[/quote]

They thought they could sell outdated cars and make the cash register ring!!!!!!!! They got what they deserved. What sells in Africa doesnt sell in India. Their marketing gurus perhaps forgot that.

mail4ajo · 25th May 2006, 19:14

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Originally Posted by jkdas

Tata anyone?..............................

Tatas dreamt of laughing all the way by cutting trucks to size to make cars. But they were quick to realise that Indian middle class wants proper cars and not truck converts like the Americans.
The V2 and Indigo are decent cars, from what I have heard from their owners.

maxbhp · 25th May 2006, 19:36

If you are talking about B segmet its Hyundai/Tata/Suzuki
Lower C segment its again Hyundai / Honda / Ford (Late)
Upper C segment its Skoda / Honda

just an offtopic view

Hyundai never had the right products for India , but they were always right on how to make people think that they have the right car and their marketing is a testimony for that fact (by this I dont mean their cars are bad , what I mean is their cars are meant more for a developed country with a good ntework of roads where weaker suspensions becomes no cause of worry) . Indian cars needs to be robust like a Ford/Fiat but hyundai came with their Accent easily captured the segment for a while purely coz of marketing statergy and right now after the launch of Crdi people are singing Hallelujah ! in the name of Hyundai , . Santro is another case , where its all about service . Fiat should have crushed the segment (Leaving aside the gen eral service of Fiat which surely is a concern among most ) with their Palio being a great car not just for looks , its safe , its good to drive , its solid and it has great engine options if someone is interested in spirited driving , instead Palio was crushed ...f@#$%...s@#$$ big time by santro . I mean one is doing 12000 units a month , and the other one barely 600 . I am a Fiat fan and I regret to say that their problem is the opposite of santro
Fiat always had the right product for India , but sadly they were never right on how to make people aware of the fact that they have a great car , their sales chart is a testimony for that fact

View Poll Results: Which nationality auto manufacturer knows India best?
Koreans	58	32.04%
Japanese	110	60.77%
Germans	7	3.87%
Italians	4	2.21%
French	0	0%
Americans	1	0.55%
British	1	0.55%
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25th May 2006, 16:26	#1
rangaraj BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 570 Thanked: 10 Times	What nationality car manufacturer knows India best? We have had car companies from many countries.. Who knows how to do business in India the best??? Hyundai has completed 10 years, Suzuki has completed a good number of years.. Who has learnt to adapt themselves the best to succeed in satisfying the Indian customer's needs? 1. Japanese - Honda - Toyota - Suzuki (though some may claim it was half Indian) - Mitsubishi (somewhat similar to suzuki - Hindustan motors probably had a lot more say to their fortune in India) 2. Koreans - Hyundai - Daewoo 3. Germans - Opel - Mercedes 4. Italians - Fiat ( I would consider PAL more Indian) 5. French - Peugeot 6. Americans - GM - Ford 7 British Last edited by rangaraj : 25th May 2006 at 16:30.
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25th May 2006, 16:30	#2
narasimha raju BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 128 Thanked: 54 Times	It is Japanese and Koreans. They provide what exactly indians want to buy.
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25th May 2006, 17:18	#3
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Tata anyone?..............................
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25th May 2006, 17:39	#4
parijnan BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 66 Thanked: 0 Times	The Japanese and Koreans provide the right cars for the Indian market. The Japanese cars have greater snob value though.
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25th May 2006, 17:41	#5
sbasak BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CCU-LTN Posts: 608 Thanked: 14 Times	[SIZE=2]Japanese (and then Korean) - who has got doubts? [/SIZE]
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25th May 2006, 17:49	#6
hawkeye BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 190 Thanked: 12 Times View My Garage	The Japanese and Koreans lead here. However, I would say that the Koreans have offered more to us than the Japs have. They may have failed on some instances, but have had definitely more success in reading our minds. Hence my vote for the Koreans.
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25th May 2006, 17:56	#8
typeOnegative Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vikhroli, Mumbai, India Posts: 1,503 Thanked: 27 Times	I would have to go with the Koreans (Hyundai). I dont agree with the fact that the Japanese know the market better. They (Suzuki) have been here a long time and had the right products from the beginning. If they (the Japanese cos) wanted they could have kind of wiped out most of Hyundais gains but they did not. Imagine what would have happened if Honda /Toyota did not sell their cars at that premium.
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25th May 2006, 18:08	#9
Sid Schumacher BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 262 Thanked: 3 Times	The Koreans have given the Japs a run for their money ever since they entered the market. It was only after Hyundai entered, that Suzuki had some proper competition from a foreign manufacturer.
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25th May 2006, 18:12	#10
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	Koreans offcourse.... They brought the CRDi for the comman man. And nothing beats the Hyundais in VFM.
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25th May 2006, 19:05	#12
mail4ajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,957 Thanked: 331 Times View My Garage	Japanese knows Indian market best. They are all accross the place, cars, bikes, LCVs, Generators, Fishing engines etc Perhaps the only place they lost the bus was LCV category, TATA 407 just blew off Nissan, Mitsubishi, Mazda & Toyota to smitters. Are any of these still in the indian LCV market?
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25th May 2006, 19:10	#13
mail4ajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,957 Thanked: 331 Times View My Garage	Moreover, Peugeot doesn't seem to be interested in the Indian market. Even if they do, I doubt they would be popular judging by their past habits. This is what the company announced:[/quote] They thought they could sell outdated cars and make the cash register ring!!!!!!!! They got what they deserved. What sells in Africa doesnt sell in India. Their marketing gurus perhaps forgot that. Last edited by mail4ajo : 25th May 2006 at 19:14.
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25th May 2006, 19:36	#15
maxbhp Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: C C K Posts: 1,382 Thanked: 89 Times View My Garage	It depends on the segment. If you are talking about B segmet its Hyundai/Tata/Suzuki Lower C segment its again Hyundai / Honda / Ford (Late) Upper C segment its Skoda / Honda just an offtopic view Hyundai never had the right products for India , but they were always right on how to make people think that they have the right car and their marketing is a testimony for that fact (by this I dont mean their cars are bad , what I mean is their cars are meant more for a developed country with a good ntework of roads where weaker suspensions becomes no cause of worry) . Indian cars needs to be robust like a Ford/Fiat but hyundai came with their Accent easily captured the segment for a while purely coz of marketing statergy and right now after the launch of Crdi people are singing Hallelujah ! in the name of Hyundai , . Santro is another case , where its all about service . Fiat should have crushed the segment (Leaving aside the gen eral service of Fiat which surely is a concern among most ) with their Palio being a great car not just for looks , its safe , its good to drive , its solid and it has great engine options if someone is interested in spirited driving , instead Palio was crushed ...f@#$%...s@#$$ big time by santro . I mean one is doing 12000 units a month , and the other one barely 600 . I am a Fiat fan and I regret to say that their problem is the opposite of santro Fiat always had the right product for India , but sadly they were never right on how to make people aware of the fact that they have a great car , their sales chart is a testimony for that fact Last edited by maxbhp : 25th May 2006 at 19:51.
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