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5th September 2013, 16:46 | #76 | ||
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So XUV's demand was meant to come down with or without competition. If there was no competition from Duster , the demand would have been there for few additional months and it would have come down eventually. Quote:
Duster to be honest was overpriced from the word "GO". But People found it to be a cheaper and easily maneuverable( City friendly) SUV than Scorpio/Safari. It was also from an international brand and so they went for it by the droves. When a new vehicle ( Eco Sport) cheaper than Duster was introduced , people flocked to that one. India is a price sensitive market and if your next big thing is cheaper than the current big thing with similar quality levels, you will be a hit. Last edited by dreadknight5 : 5th September 2013 at 16:48. Reason: spelling | ||
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5th September 2013, 17:23 | #77 | |
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Quanto has failed to divert customers from hatch/sedan market. There is no USP of the product , when you compare it to Eco Sport.Eco Sport is compact,its futuristic and has good interiors and priced well. Most of the customers would have changed their mind for the TDs after the first look. I would blame the Ertiga too for the low numbers. Looks apart. M&M rushed to release this product. Imagine if they had taken some more time and instead chopping the Xylo, they would have done the same with XUV? | |
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5th September 2013, 17:50 | #78 |
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I don't disagree entirely. USP's: - abuse friendly. - cheap to buy and maintain (on maintainence part I am assuming since it is early to say for certain, I based it on the spare parts price list which I have seen before buying). - engine (3-pot, but the best amongst them). - VFM. It is infact priced very well for what it offers (although the top end is more than what I like, but all manufacturers price their top-end models rather over-enthusiastically). Mahindra cars are honest cars.. that's what I like about them. I agree that for the segment that they targeted, they had their priorities wrong. And the market is showing them exactly that. Mahindra cars are honest cars. Eco-sport is a fine car (and I will agree wholeheartedly. I am for that matter a blue oval fan-boy myself. Have 4 of them in my family, all bought on my insistence), however: - Pricing is intelligent, not cheap. - Design is futuristic. I say it is like a fashion accessory, and like I said before, beauty are in the eye of the beholder. I like it now. I will not like it in the future. Quanto makes no bones about it's appearance. It is bad from the beginning. - Interiors are nice you say. They are designed in a futuristic way. Touch the materials used, and you'll see that both are the same. They are made of durable plastics. The finish, however is better in the ford. - Compactness, the eco-sport wins by a small margin. I will agree. Both cars actually target people of different priorities. The market is the ultimate decider. Thanks, Simple_car |
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5th September 2013, 18:27 | #79 | |
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The bulk of Figo bookings are the diesel version. But when consumers look at the engine choices on offer, the Swift and the Hyundai i20 seem like better deals, as long term running costs may work out cheaper. The Figo petrol gives a claimed fuel economy of 15.6 kmpl. The Maruti Swift and i20 will give around 17-19 kmpl. There’s also the perception that Ford maintenance costs are higher than Maruti and Hyundai. That’s something that Ford is trying to change. To be honest Ford Figo spare part costs are actually best-in-class, but that’s something Ford needs to effectively convey to its customers. Past experiences with earlier Ford cars (Escort, Ikon and Fiesta) have made customers quite vary about service standards and costs of Ford vehicles. | |
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5th September 2013, 18:55 | #80 |
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| Re: August 2013 : Indian Car Sales Figures & Analysis Good report as usual GTO! Though automobile numbers may not be truly representative of billion plus population, considering the percolation effect it has on the auxiliary industries and indirect taxes collection, these numbers, to a great extent, depict the picture of the economy. Probably, we may have to live in this sad state of economy at least till the elections are over! Is any data available on commercial vehicle sales too which in my opinion, will concur with the State of economy most of the times! |
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5th September 2013, 20:03 | #81 | |
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There are two thread running for the commercial vehicles sales figures. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/commer...les-india.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/commer...les-india.html Anurag. | |
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| Re: August 2013 : Indian Car Sales Figures & Analysis One interesting thing to note - both the Scorpio and the Eeco have sold more than the duster the last month. Scorpio, despite being older than a decade is still doing decent numbers. Could someone help understand, if scorpio is a better value proposition compared to the Duster. Also i noticed several post indicating that it is the ecosport effect that has caused the decline for duster. Is that the only reason - after all duster set the charts on fire in the initial months and is definitely a capable car. |
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Also, with Mahindra's own Bolero rubbing shoulders with it, the Quanto had always had its work cut out. Quote:
1. The constant electronic gremlins that simply refuse to let go. 2. Newer, better and reliable competitors have arrived. If pricing had been a problem, the Fortuner (which has had it's price raised by almost 5 lakhs since launch) would have simply refused to move off the showroom floor. But that bungalow-on-wheels continues to sell, and how! | ||
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5th September 2013, 23:51 | #84 | |
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The Quanto just looks like a Xylo with its rear end cut forcibly to evade the tax. Now the Xylo hardly sells so how will a customer go for a Quanto! Mahindra is trying hard to sell its cars but the movement just doesn't justify. Anurag. | |
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6th September 2013, 00:44 | #85 | ||
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However, I stick to the USP's I have stated above. The vehicle is a reliable one (except for its engine which is new), since it shares parts with other family cars. It is VFM, it gives a good F.E., cheap to buy and it is huge from the inside (with a chance to seat 7). Does this not look like what most Indians look out for in a car? Hard plastics are there in quanto and its other competitors. Check it out yourself. I have a quanto, fiesta (which shares its interiors with eco-sport) with me here, and a ertiga in my extended family. Interior plastics quality are the same (if you were to look at it as a layman). On the outside, it looks bad, I know. I like that it makes no bones about its appearance (and I know I am a minority in this case). It is the interior design aspect where the competitors have an edge. Drab interiors? Are you kidding? Beige-ish colour and huge glass area of the car does not make for a drab interior. I am not saying that the quanto's interiors are good (far from it), but they are not drab at least. The best term to describe them is: acceptable. I think it's not the bolero which is rubbing shoulders with the quanto, it is the scorpio. Bolero is a utilitarian vehicle. Scorpio has a aspirational value here and it is quite closely priced. As a matter of fact, had it not been for the pathetic brakes on the base model and the body roll on that car, we would have gone for the base model scorpio (which was within our reach). But, hey who am I to know any better? Maybe, it must be the bolero which must be eating into quanto. The mechanical bits in all mahindra cars are rock solid good and reliable. Never mind the fact that rest of the car disintegrates (first hand experience). However, they are honest. I like this quality in a vehicle. I am not a fan of its looks, but hey it serves my purpose. I am happy. Quote:
I still think on a whole, the quanto is a very good contender and makes a very good case for itself. It has the USP's which I have already stated. It fails on the design aspect, but there is a flip side to this as well. Mahindra might not have invested a lot in its development, hence it will be ok with the low numbers. Leave the looks aside, and it is a good car. I know, it may never sell much in the future, but hey.. no harm in hoping right? (even if I am a fool to do so). *end of fanboy rant* Thanks, Simple_car | ||
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Just look at the Ecosport's success. What can be the true reason behind its blockbuster performance? The simple fact that Indian customers feel they are getting a SUV for hatchback money is what makes it tick, even though the product itself is no larger than an ordinary hatchback. Now, let us go back to the Quanto. It looks likes a shrunken Xylo, a car which could not even dream of winning any design accolades and then has sub-par interior quality bits to make matters worse. 7 seats. Are you kidding me?? Even a 5 year old would know that those 2 extra seats were fitted just for the sake of having them. Had the Quanto been an entirely new product (read: No Xylo), Mahindra may have managed to pull it off. But with the Quanto and Xylo sharing equal showroom space, most buyers would only end up being amused. Quote:
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Distinguished - BHPian | Re: August 2013 : Indian Car Sales Figures & Analysis Impressive sales figures from Audi. Audi India on reports 20.52 per cent rise in sales in August at 875 units. The company had sold 726 units in the same month of last year. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/b...w/22334242.cms |
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| Re: August 2013 : Indian Car Sales Figures & Analysis My replies in bold Quote:
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The vehicle was going to be used only for office purposes over bad roads day in and out. Hence we were looking for a utilitarian vehicle. Looks and image are the last considerations for us when we buy a car (you have to see my garage.. I hate all the cars from the looks aspect myself). I was downside adamant not to buy this car.. I was in-fact gung-ho for the bolero (which as you said is priced nearly on par. In fact the bs-3 version was cheaper by 50k ex-showroom), sumo and maybe the xenos. We already have 2 bolero's with us, which apart from their drive-train just dis-integrate every 3-4 years. I love those cars. My father was keen on scorpio more. After the test drive, both of us vetoed the scorpio out. I refused to test drive the quanto as a mark of protest (I was kind of fed up with all the ugly cars in my home, and if bolero and scorpio's interiors were anything to go by, I was not exactly very keen). The dealer gave us a sweet deal for the quanto, and hence my father booked it (I was haggling hard with the tata dealer for the sumo, since I badly wanted a change. But the dealer did not budge beyond a point and we have had bad experiences with tata dealers didn't help my case either). I refused to drive the car for a 3 days when it came to my home. That's how much I didn't like it. Finally, when I was forced to drive it, it was the biggest revelation. You see, I had already formed a bad impression in my mind based on the review on this site and auto mags. I am myself used to cars with finesse, handling, good interiors (my family has a good history of owning euro, and good japanese cars. I was bought up with these cars in my home, so you can see why I was not at all keen on such this car which I considered as a downgrade). As soon as I drove it for 200 kms, I was shocked at how much I like it. In-fact, I even suggested to dad to make it as our family car. The t-bhp review is spot on. Every single point said in the review is correct. Yet, I loved this car. I knew why.. there was a feel of honesty surrounding the car (A point which I value above all else). Funnily enough, my dad hates it! (he hates SUV's in general) Lesson learnt: never ever read a review before buying a car. It is plain stupid thing to do. As a enthusiast, I like cars which have power, good road manners etc.., but I have learnt my lesson, not to form an opinion before driving a car. My point: Don't ever form an opinion of a car by reading reviews of the car (even if they are written by the best people in the business). Till this day I thank my dad for selecting this car. It is a ugly duckling, however, it is a VFM car. I appreciate its virtues and I definitely think it deserves a better sales in the market. However, the world is what it is. I am not going to be able to change that. I have accepted that. Thanks, Simple_car | ||
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6th September 2013, 15:41 | #90 | ||
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If only the reviews and sales figures were to judge how good/bad a car is! Then I guess most of the members in team bhp who rate the fiat linea very high should be among the best selling cars and yet you find the car hardly in the four digit figure. Quote:
If Ritz had not landed in my garage I probably would have had Fiat Linea which I would have still got booed from most people and ridiculous questions would have raised like why fiat? what about servicing? why this? why that? I hope you feel better! Cheers | ||
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