Suzuki pakistan newer cars than Maruti Udyog

devarshi84 · 12th June 2006, 10:27

I recently found this website and visited Suzuki pakistan and here is what I see

maruti 800 better than Suzuki Mehran
maruti Alto better than Suzuki Alto
maruti Esteem better than suzuki Cultus
maruti baleno Killed by Suzuki Liana
maruti Omni ties with Suzuki Bolan
maruti Gypsy wins against suzuki Potohar
maruti Versa crushed by Suzuki APV
maruti xl-7 = Suzuki xl-7

suzuki Jimmy has no competition

maruti swift has no competition
WagonR has not competition
Zen has no competition

While still low on product options, its worth noticing that while economical products are still a forte of Maruti Udyog in India, it takes a beating in higher segments.

Liana, APV and Jimmy are products that can take maruti a step further. Then why is maruti still producing Baleno and versa?

While Aveo and Fiesta have been launced, and Scorpio, tavera and Innova are grabbing the MPv pie. Maruti Udyog is solely missing in these markets with Baleno not exactly a sales chart success and Versa succumbing to an instant failure in sales.

suzuki Pakistan

http://64.5.40.18/paksuzuki/jimny.html

maruti-suzuki India

http://www.marutiudyog.com/index.asp

DCEite · 12th June 2006, 15:48

Hey Devarshi, one correction. Maruti Alto is 800 cc, where as Pak Suzuki Alto is 970cc which is the Maruti Zen engine. So Pak Alto= Maruti Zen.

himanshugoswami · 12th June 2006, 15:56

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Originally Posted by dceite

Hey Devarshi, one correction. Maruti Alto is 800 cc, where as Pak Suzuki Alto is 970cc which is the Maruti Zen engine. So Pak Alto= Maruti Zen.

The only diff being that the paki version is carburettered. Seems like those guys have not heard of emission norms as yet!

ECM · 12th June 2006, 18:42

Excellent findings devarshi84 and I wish Maruti introduce Liana asap in India.thx and thrilled to see Liana.

devarshi84 · 12th June 2006, 22:52

I wonder if Liana is in the pipeline soon too?

And I also hope they bring APV here to replace versa. Innova and tavera will hide in shame.

Where is the jimmy?

nevertouchme · 12th June 2006, 23:04

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Originally Posted by sushrutha

My personal views

Bolan- Van Omni... Indian version is far better than Pak's . Look at the steering wheels

It sucks

APV --- Just rocks...

I comepletely agree with you sush... lol, seriously de steering wheel is like ......
lol

well, Liana is more Luxurious dan our Baleno... wow, ill it ever be launched here... ?

frankmehta · 12th June 2006, 23:13

the liana is one car that was really destined for india......had they killed the baleno name and gone ahead with this contemporary product it would have been a very good placement in india......but alas.

jkdas · 12th June 2006, 23:15

nice find. The Liana looks great; even the interiors. And it comes with two engine options! and 1.6 @ 7lac INR!!!

Teh Ravi looks like our Tata Ace. APV looks slick

indica1998 · 13th June 2006, 06:27

The prices consumers pay in PAKISTAN is MORE compared to INDIA of the same model

for example take the example of the MARUTI 800 / SUZUKI MEHRAN

[1] MARUTI SUZUKI 800/Non AC(ex-showroom price): Rs.1,95,000

[2] SUZUKI MEHRAN/Non AC (ex-showroom price): Rs.3,15,000 (Pakistani Rupee)(converted to Indian Rs. 3,15,000/1.3=Rs.2,42,000)

Which means

[1] Pakistanis are paying about Rs(Indian)47,000 more for the same model ie. MARUTI 800/SUZUKI MEHRAN

[2] Also Suzuki model in Pakistan don't have MPFI Systems, so add about another Rs.10,000 extra.

[3] Which ultimately means that Pakistanis are paying about Rs.57,000 (Indian Rs.) more for the base model of the MARUTI 800/SUZUKI Mehran

Similar is the case with all the other models which are common to INDIA and PAKISTAN. Check out the price list of Pakistani cars at http://www.pakwheels.com/pricelist.asp

Agreed PAKSUZUKI manufactures the

[1] LIANA

and IMPORTS two models to PAKISTAN which are not available in INDIA. Viz.

[1] APV
[2] JIMNY

But MARUTI SUZUKI does manufacture the SWIFT in INDIA which is not available in PAKISTAN

indica1998 · 13th June 2006, 06:38

The Price of the JIMNY and APV (Imported) if converted into Indian currency, it comes to about Rs.8,00,000

Which would be too high. A customer in India can go the much bigger SCORPIO or INNOVA which falls under the same price range.

But if the APV and the JIMNY are manufactured in INDIA then MARUTI might be able to price them competetively for INDIA.

BUT will MARUTI manufacture the JIMNY and APV in INDIA..???

sleepy · 13th June 2006, 12:06

the APV sure looks slick! i think a price of around 5.5 - 6.5 lakhs would be right for it

indica1998 · 13th June 2006, 14:33

I'll go for the Jimny if it retails for

Rs. 5-5.5 Lakhs with
four wheel drive and
Diesel option

devarshi84 · 13th June 2006, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by indica1998

The Price of the JIMNY and APV (Imported) if converted into Indian currency, it comes to about Rs.8,00,000

Which would be too high. A customer in India can go the much bigger SCORPIO or INNOVA which falls under the same price range.

But if the APV and the JIMNY are manufactured in INDIA then MARUTI might be able to price them competetively for INDIA.

BUT will MARUTI manufacture the JIMNY and APV in INDIA..???

judging by the prices of suzuki cars in India I guess Liana would be around 7 lacs.

Ditto for APV. APv should cost around 7lacs which is pretty decent in comparison to Innova, tavera and Scorpio

Jimmy can be a high-end option to the Bolero invader and gypsy.

I hope Maruti takes good measures soon.

ksethuram · 14th June 2006, 09:58

Comparing Pak to India is absurd. The number of vehicles Maruti and Suzuki sell here is nowhere comparable. It is a shame for them not to introduce Liana in india. Instead of concentrating on a non selling grand vitara they can do something with Liana. I am sure that even if imported as CBU Liana will outnumber grans vitara.

LLL · 1st October 2007, 17:45

todays economictimes has an article about maruti gunning for jimny.

Similarly, Maruti Suzuki which is facing constraints with its ageing 4-wheeler drive Gypsy and unloading its global bestseller Jimny in the price band of Rs 4.5-5.5 lakh.

SUVs drive into C class with new models- Automobiles-Auto-News By Industry-News-The Economic Times

This can get seriously exciting.

12th June 2006, 10:27	#1
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	Suzuki pakistan newer cars than Maruti Udyog I recently found this website and visited Suzuki pakistan and here is what I see maruti 800 better than Suzuki Mehran maruti Alto better than Suzuki Alto maruti Esteem better than suzuki Cultus maruti baleno Killed by Suzuki Liana maruti Omni ties with Suzuki Bolan maruti Gypsy wins against suzuki Potohar maruti Versa crushed by Suzuki APV maruti xl-7 = Suzuki xl-7 suzuki Jimmy has no competition maruti swift has no competition WagonR has not competition Zen has no competition While still low on product options, its worth noticing that while economical products are still a forte of Maruti Udyog in India, it takes a beating in higher segments. Liana, APV and Jimmy are products that can take maruti a step further. Then why is maruti still producing Baleno and versa? While Aveo and Fiesta have been launced, and Scorpio, tavera and Innova are grabbing the MPv pie. Maruti Udyog is solely missing in these markets with Baleno not exactly a sales chart success and Versa succumbing to an instant failure in sales. suzuki Pakistan http://64.5.40.18/paksuzuki/jimny.html maruti-suzuki India http://www.marutiudyog.com/index.asp Last edited by devarshi84 : 12th June 2006 at 10:29.
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12th June 2006, 15:48	#2
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,414 Thanked: 2,525 Times	Hey Devarshi, one correction. Maruti Alto is 800 cc, where as Pak Suzuki Alto is 970cc which is the Maruti Zen engine. So Pak Alto= Maruti Zen.
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12th June 2006, 18:42	#4
ECM BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Somewhere Posts: 226 Thanked: 15 Times	Excellent findings devarshi84 and I wish Maruti introduce Liana asap in India.thx and thrilled to see Liana.
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12th June 2006, 22:52	#5
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	I wonder if Liana is in the pipeline soon too? And I also hope they bring APV here to replace versa. Innova and tavera will hide in shame. Where is the jimmy?
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12th June 2006, 23:13	#7
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	the liana is one car that was really destined for india......had they killed the baleno name and gone ahead with this contemporary product it would have been a very good placement in india......but alas.
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12th June 2006, 23:15	#8
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	nice find. The Liana looks great; even the interiors. And it comes with two engine options! and 1.6 @ 7lac INR!!! Teh Ravi looks like our Tata Ace. APV looks slick Last edited by jkdas : 12th June 2006 at 23:16.
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13th June 2006, 06:27	#9
indica1998 Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10 Thanked: 0 Times	Suzuki in Pakistan Costs more The prices consumers pay in PAKISTAN is MORE compared to INDIA of the same model for example take the example of the MARUTI 800 / SUZUKI MEHRAN [1] MARUTI SUZUKI 800/Non AC(ex-showroom price): Rs.1,95,000 [2] SUZUKI MEHRAN/Non AC (ex-showroom price): Rs.3,15,000 (Pakistani Rupee)(converted to Indian Rs. 3,15,000/1.3=Rs.2,42,000) Which means [1] Pakistanis are paying about Rs(Indian)47,000 more for the same model ie. MARUTI 800/SUZUKI MEHRAN [2] Also Suzuki model in Pakistan don't have MPFI Systems, so add about another Rs.10,000 extra. [3] Which ultimately means that Pakistanis are paying about Rs.57,000 (Indian Rs.) more for the base model of the MARUTI 800/SUZUKI Mehran Similar is the case with all the other models which are common to INDIA and PAKISTAN. Check out the price list of Pakistani cars at http://www.pakwheels.com/pricelist.asp Agreed PAKSUZUKI manufactures the [1] LIANA and IMPORTS two models to PAKISTAN which are not available in INDIA. Viz. [1] APV [2] JIMNY But MARUTI SUZUKI does manufacture the SWIFT in INDIA which is not available in PAKISTAN
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13th June 2006, 06:38	#10
indica1998 Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10 Thanked: 0 Times	The Price of the JIMNY and APV (Imported) if converted into Indian currency, it comes to about Rs.8,00,000 Which would be too high. A customer in India can go the much bigger SCORPIO or INNOVA which falls under the same price range. But if the APV and the JIMNY are manufactured in INDIA then MARUTI might be able to price them competetively for INDIA. BUT will MARUTI manufacture the JIMNY and APV in INDIA..???
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13th June 2006, 12:06	#11
sleepy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 41 Thanked: 0 Times	the APV sure looks slick! i think a price of around 5.5 - 6.5 lakhs would be right for it
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13th June 2006, 14:33	#12
indica1998 Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10 Thanked: 0 Times	I'll go for the Jimny if it retails for Rs. 5-5.5 Lakhs with four wheel drive and Diesel option
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14th June 2006, 09:58	#14
ksethuram BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chennai , London (now) Posts: 233 Thanked: Once	Comparing Pak to India is absurd. The number of vehicles Maruti and Suzuki sell here is nowhere comparable. It is a shame for them not to introduce Liana in india. Instead of concentrating on a non selling grand vitara they can do something with Liana. I am sure that even if imported as CBU Liana will outnumber grans vitara. Last edited by ksethuram : 14th June 2006 at 09:59.
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1st October 2007, 17:45	#15
LLL BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 635 Thanked: 2 Times	todays economictimes has an article about maruti gunning for jimny. Similarly, Maruti Suzuki which is facing constraints with its ageing 4-wheeler drive Gypsy and unloading its global bestseller Jimny in the price band of Rs 4.5-5.5 lakh. SUVs drive into C class with new models- Automobiles-Auto-News By Industry-News-The Economic Times This can get seriously exciting.
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