[condor]

That is my question

I can understand a Storme vs Hexa kind of dimensions. Q501 slightly smaller than Q502.


Ravenavi - any idea which would come first ?

[srishiva]

I hope they just dont look at the body image of a SUV but also make sure they take care of the ground clearance. If you look at the competition only Duster (although not in the same class) has good ground clearance.

It might be possible for them to add these body shells to Hexa's underpinnings ?

[ashis89]

Originally Posted by srishiva

I hope they just dont look at the body image of a SUV but also make sure they take care of the ground clearance. If you look at the competition only Duster (although not in the same class) has good ground clearance.

It might be possible for them to add these body shells to Hexa's underpinnings ?

Hexa is based on an older platform. From what I know these 2 new SUVs will have a monocoque chassis.

[ACM]

Originally Posted by srishiva

I hope they just dont look at the body image of a SUV but also make sure they take care of the ground clearance. If you look at the competition only Duster (although not in the same class) has good ground clearance.

It might be possible for them to add these body shells to Hexa's underpinnings ?

I think given the background that even the Nexon has class leading Ground Clearance as also the Hexa and Storme, this is something that TATA will always keep in mind while designing an SUV. Ground clerance should be considered as a given aspect.

Originally Posted by discoverwild

Wouldn't that make the 7 seater a little more cramped compared to the 5? Plus, the reduction in boot space to accommodate the third row.

That has been the global trend infact. Lets keep in mind that even the Range Rover is a 5 seater while the Range Rover Sport is a 7 seater in essentially the same size. Similarly the Discovery Sport comes in 5 seater and 7 seater combinations.

Originally Posted by condor

That is my question

I can understand a Storme vs Hexa kind of dimensions. Q501 slightly smaller than Q502.

The moment you go towards the Hexa kind of 7 seater dimensions and good interior space then you come up with mini van looks, that is a problem with the Hexa and the Innova. You need to loose space and comfort to get the Fortuner /Endeavour looks. Else you need to compromise space to get the X5 kind of looks. Lets keep in mind that even the Q7 if from a different brand than Audi would be considered to be quite Van like to look at. The Kodiaq is quite borderline. It is quite easy to get it wrong in making a 7 seater Comfortable SUV. Shorter with limited boot space though less practical wins on looks at least. Looks are most important for sales. Practicality can only sell a Van (Innova) not an SUV.

[RavenAvi]

Originally Posted by condor

Ravenavi - any idea which would come first ?

All indications are pointing towards a simultaneous launch sometime in the first quarter of AY2019.

Originally Posted by ACM

That has been the global trend infact. Lets keep in mind that even the Range Rover is a 5 seater while the Range Rover Sport is a 7 seater in essentially the same size. Similarly the Discovery Sport comes in 5 seater and 7 seater combinations.

Most likely to be the same case for the Q50x twins.

Originally Posted by ACM

The moment you go towards the Hexa kind of 7 seater dimensions and good interior space then you come up with mini van looks, that is a problem with the Hexa and the Innova. You need to loose space and comfort to get the Fortuner /Endeavour looks.

+1. Even the LR/RR SUVs don't have enough space in their 3rd rows.

I am guessing the 3rd row space will be similar to the Hexa. Tata would want to ditch the side-facing seats to make the Q50x SUVs more contemporary. As long as they provide enough space for 2 occupants to sit easily in the 3rd row (head room, shoulder room & knee room), nobody should be complaining.

Originally Posted by ACM

Shorter with limited boot space though less practical wins on looks at least. Looks are most important for sales. Practicality can only sell a Van (Innova) not an SUV.

And the Q50x SUVs will be more about looks. It will be amply spacious in the first two rows as well. 3rd row, as is usual for most SUV lookers, should be decent. Not segment-leading or spacious as heck, but decent enough to carry 2 passengers through rough terrain in the 4x4 modes with some comfort provided.

[lazy]

RavenAvi

Can you share TML's plans for Storme - any upgrades, refresh or keep it as-is until it is sunset when BS-6 is implemented in April-2020 ?

Is TML planning any LOF SUV in their line-up at all (except Hexa).

Looks like its the end of road for an affordable 4x4 SUVs, though Scorpio 4x4 is now available in S11 trim only, crosses 20L, hardly 'affordable' by any means.

cheers
lazy

[mallumowgli]

Originally Posted by ashis89

Hexa is based on an older platform. From what I know these 2 new SUVs will have a monocoque chassis.

I thought they were to be on a shortened Hexa chassis. Would have been nice if it was a ladder-frame chassis, RWD with part time 4WD

[amrutmhatre90]

Originally Posted by mallumowgli

I thought they were to be on a shortened Hexa chassis. Would have been nice if it was a ladder-frame chassis, RWD with part time 4WD

Tata's are known for having heavy vehicles, the new Tata would want to strip it from their future products. Since this is based on LR's monoc platform, it will be very capable off-road SUV, Hexa is a MUV but still is good at off-road. Working with LR they would have fair bit of things which will come in these new SUV's.

Would love to see an actual 5 seater SUV which will have 4WD, apart from duster nothing comes close in this segment.

[ank.nsit]

Originally Posted by amrutmhatre90

...

Would love to see an actual 5 seater SUV which will have 4WD, apart from duster nothing comes close in this segment.

Apart from Duster the other option is Jeep Compass.
I am looking to buy a car in this segment - 5 seater spacious SUV with an AWD capability. Considering the improvements in TATA's new launches, these new SUV look promising.

[Motard_Blr]

Originally Posted by amrutmhatre90

Tata's are known for having heavy vehicles, the new Tata would want to strip it from their future products. ....

There was recently an interview with the MD of Hyundai motor India in which he stated that Hyundai had noted Suzuki's trend of lighter cars and that they would follow the same only up to a point because they don't want their cars to known as flimsy or affect NVH, like the new Maruti cars.

So TML might have the same reason for limiting weight loss on their new cars, even if they can do better.

[amrutmhatre90]

Originally Posted by ank.nsit

Apart from Duster the other option is Jeep Compass.
I am looking to buy a car in this segment - 5 seater spacious SUV with an AWD capability. Considering the improvements in TATA's new launches, these new SUV look promising.

I love the Jeep Compass, but what puts me off is the rear seat comfort and space of offering in the second row. Tata's USP has been ride quality and space on offering so I am sure this will be taken care.

[RavenAvi]

Latest spyshots from Pune, courtesy good friend AutoSpy.

According to his observations, the test mules had all four disc brakes and the exhaust looked brand new, as if it was production ready.
ODO reading on one of the test mules was at 1,77,000-odd kms, and the MID display was similar to the Nexon.

Also, the Nexon test mule in the first pic was an AMT equipped one.

[Moto$apien]

Originally Posted by RavenAvi

Latest spyshots from Pune, courtesy good friend AutoSpy.

According to his observations, the test mules had all four disc brakes and the exhaust looked brand new, as if it was production ready.

Baffling to say the least !!

Testing a new car with another car's body should be a 1st in the world implementation (atleast what i know!)

It is definitely a smart way to fine-tune a new launch's drive-train for extended periods without anyone knowing.

Or to resolve to ways such as below:-



This makes for an exciting Tata pavilion at the upcoming AutoExpo, with key theme revealed yesterday, along with their IMPACT 2.0 designs

Source:https://www.zigwheels.com/news-featu...pact-20/29502/



Fingers x crossed

[sachinayak]

Originally Posted by Moto$apien

Baffling to say the least !!

Testing a new car with another car's body should be a 1st in the world implementation (atleast what i know!)

Volkswagen tested Vento with a Ford Fiesta fascia
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-launched.html

This is still within the family.

[amrutmhatre90]

Played around with photoshop cause saw something different in the rear axle. Going through the pictures one thing I noticed is the way rear axle is, no independent rear suspension like on the original Discovery Sport. Looks like this SUV will be FWD, with option of AWD. I hope this is the case. The pictured car doesn't power rear wheels.