Ford Endeavour with a New Engine

veyron1 · 18th July 2006, 23:30

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Originally Posted by lurker

Does this fortuner have anything to do with the "FourRunner" ??

Check out this link. The fortuner IS a proper off-roader.

http://www.toyota.com.ph/showroom/fortuner/index.html

As for the Endeavour TDCi, it doesn't make much sense to offer 2 diesels on the same platform. At least not here in India. The Endeavour is positioned as a lifestyle SUV here, and considering the upcoming competition like the 2.2 litre 140 bhp+ Scorpio/Safari, the 163 bhp Fortuner and the 150 bhp FWD-based Captiva, it would be far more plausible on Ford's behalf to launch the 3.0 litre 154 bhp 380nm (!!) powerplant on the new Endy.

Here's hoping that better sense will prevail, and Ford will do the right thing.

And yes; the leaf springs will be retained. Since the Endy is a carbon copy of the Ranger mechanically, the new version can be expected to retain the rear leaf setup. Let's hope Ford gets the spring and damper rates right this time; nobody's gonna haul 2 tonnes of luggage in a 17L SUV. Ford should realise that.

lurker · 19th July 2006, 10:47

Is the fortuner one of those vehicles based on the 'Innova project' platform ? Is the fortuner the SUV varient of the 'Innova project' ??

The Toyota 4Runner is claimed to be the "Gurkha" of the Toyota SUV's, it is more of an off-roader than any other Toyota SUV. It is based on a 'truck' platform rather than any 'soft-roader' car-based platform !

rangaraj · 19th July 2006, 16:48

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Originally Posted by lurker

Is the fortuner one of those vehicles based on the 'Innova project' platform ? Is the fortuner the SUV varient of the 'Innova project' ??

The Toyota 4Runner is claimed to be the "Gurkha" of the Toyota SUV's, it is more of an off-roader than any other Toyota SUV. It is based on a 'truck' platform rather than any 'soft-roader' car-based platform !

The Fortuner is based on the IMV project (Innova is one of the products based on this project)
http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/strategy/imv/index.html

It is a successful program to turn around products - time to market and a great deal of localization..

The 4Runner was a older product - a mini landcruizer..

adya33 · 19th July 2006, 22:57

Guys this topic is about Ford Endevour with a New Engine.
Kindly avoid off topic discussion.

rangaraj · 1st December 2006, 14:28

Ford to launch Endeavour

Chanchal Pal Chauhan / New Delhi December 1, 2006

Though the Indian passenger car market has been a tough nut to crack, Ford Motor India is planning to launch its future products in the mid and high end car segment and will bring out a new Endeavour in early 2007 under its premium SUV category.

Arvind Mathew, managing director and president, Ford India said: “We will be bringing out something new every year. While new Endeavour is on the cards, we are also aiming at two sides of the car market -- Rs 4-5 lakh category and Rs 10-12 lakh premium segment -- for the India market in the next two years.

The mid segment had been the fastest growing at about 21 per cent till last year, when the small car excise incentive came and the market shifted to compact cars. We are betting on these two class of vehicles and will definitely not opt for a cheap car (like M800 or Alto) for the Indian market despite high volumes.”

Ford India has increased its sales by 142 per cent in Cotober with 3,336 units and 115 per cent for the first seven months of the fiscal at 22,943 units. However its share in the Indian passenger car market stands at around 3.1 per cent.

Despite the low market share Ford’s policy is to concentrate on car segment only. And despite the huge demand in the sub-one ton category vehicles and the recent success Mahindra Utility &Max and Tata Ace, it has ruled out a any one ton pick up trucks from its stable for the Indian market.

“Though the Indian customers has the desire to go for stylish products, the government policy of registering one ton trucks as commercial vehicle rather than private vehicles go against our range of stylish mini-trucks. There is no scope for our range of mini-trucks in India at present,” said Mathew

The company had launched Ikon Flair CNG, a dual-fuel variant running both on petrol and compressed natural gas [CNG] on Tuesday at an price of Rs 5.25 lakh (ex showroom Delhi).

Initially the car will be available at available in CNG compliant cities of Delhi, Mumbai, Surat , Baroda and Ahmedabad.Mathew said they have conducted extensive research on alternate fuels and CNG fuel was chosen as its running cost is about one-forth the price of petrol.

Though he added that the company will concentrate on diesel as the alternate to petrol, for its economy and efficiency.

Nearly 70 per cent sales of Ford vehicles in India are of diesel vehicles.

Unlike Tata Motor and its American partner, General Motor, which has changed the engine configuration to take excise benefit, it will not downscale any of its products to tap the excise benefits.

“We will keep customer focus in mind, rather than take any policy centric decisions. Our future products will be quality driven as in the case of our latest offering Fiesta, which has been an astounding success and maintains a sizeable backlog of bookings,” Mathew added.

The company contradicted reports of a possible diesel facility in India and ruled out any diesel engine manufacturing saying that it is not feasible at such low volumes and lack of right diesel technology available in India also goes against it.

yeis · 1st December 2006, 16:41

They didn't say anything about new engine??? :(

THE-U- · 5th December 2006, 09:34

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Originally Posted by rangaraj

Though the Indian passenger car market has been a tough nut to crack, Ford Motor India is planning to launch its future products in the mid and high end car segment and will bring out a new Endeavour in early 2007 under its premium SUV category.

The Endeavour badly needed this update long ago. A Rs.15L vehicle with a 18seconds 0 to 100 kmph is unacceptable.

volkman10 · 13th August 2013, 13:26

Ecosport influenced the next-generation Ford Endeavour concept have been leaked online.
The concept features muscular wheel arches, angular headlamps, EcoSport-like grille and connected foglight enclosures.
The car is likely to continue with three rows and come with the option of 2.2-litre and 3.0-litre diesel.

http://www.autocarindia.com/News/353...n-its-way.aspx

swami.n · 13th August 2013, 13:54

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Originally Posted by volkman10

Ecosport influenced the next-generation Ford Endeavour concept have been leaked online.
The concept features muscular wheel arches, angular headlamps, EcoSport-like grille and connected foglight enclosures.
The car is likely to continue with three rows and come with the option of 2.2-litre and 3.0-litre diesel.

http://www.autocarindia.com/News/353...n-its-way.aspx

It does look really sophisticated going by the image in the link. And yes it looks highly influenced by the EcoSport styling.

If the pricing strategy is similar to the EcoSport, then Ford can really look at very good numbers for the Fortuner.

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rangaraj BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 570 Thanked: 10 Times	New Endeavour in early 2007 - Business Standard Ford to launch Endeavour Chanchal Pal Chauhan / New Delhi December 1, 2006 Though the Indian passenger car market has been a tough nut to crack, Ford Motor India is planning to launch its future products in the mid and high end car segment and will bring out a new Endeavour in early 2007 under its premium SUV category. Arvind Mathew, managing director and president, Ford India said: “We will be bringing out something new every year. While new Endeavour is on the cards, we are also aiming at two sides of the car market -- Rs 4-5 lakh category and Rs 10-12 lakh premium segment -- for the India market in the next two years. The mid segment had been the fastest growing at about 21 per cent till last year, when the small car excise incentive came and the market shifted to compact cars. We are betting on these two class of vehicles and will definitely not opt for a cheap car (like M800 or Alto) for the Indian market despite high volumes.” Ford India has increased its sales by 142 per cent in Cotober with 3,336 units and 115 per cent for the first seven months of the fiscal at 22,943 units. However its share in the Indian passenger car market stands at around 3.1 per cent. Despite the low market share Ford’s policy is to concentrate on car segment only. And despite the huge demand in the sub-one ton category vehicles and the recent success Mahindra Utility &Max and Tata Ace, it has ruled out a any one ton pick up trucks from its stable for the Indian market. “Though the Indian customers has the desire to go for stylish products, the government policy of registering one ton trucks as commercial vehicle rather than private vehicles go against our range of stylish mini-trucks. There is no scope for our range of mini-trucks in India at present,” said Mathew The company had launched Ikon Flair CNG, a dual-fuel variant running both on petrol and compressed natural gas [CNG] on Tuesday at an price of Rs 5.25 lakh (ex showroom Delhi). Initially the car will be available at available in CNG compliant cities of Delhi, Mumbai, Surat , Baroda and Ahmedabad.Mathew said they have conducted extensive research on alternate fuels and CNG fuel was chosen as its running cost is about one-forth the price of petrol. Though he added that the company will concentrate on diesel as the alternate to petrol, for its economy and efficiency. Nearly 70 per cent sales of Ford vehicles in India are of diesel vehicles. Unlike Tata Motor and its American partner, General Motor, which has changed the engine configuration to take excise benefit, it will not downscale any of its products to tap the excise benefits. “We will keep customer focus in mind, rather than take any policy centric decisions. Our future products will be quality driven as in the case of our latest offering Fiesta, which has been an astounding success and maintains a sizeable backlog of bookings,” Mathew added. The company contradicted reports of a possible diesel facility in India and ruled out any diesel engine manufacturing saying that it is not feasible at such low volumes and lack of right diesel technology available in India also goes against it.
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yeis BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 238 Thanked: 4 Times	They didn't say anything about new engine??? :(
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volkman10 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: -- Posts: 23,404 Thanked: 67,780 Times View My Garage	re: Ford Endeavour with a New Engine Ecosport influenced the next-generation Ford Endeavour concept have been leaked online. The concept features muscular wheel arches, angular headlamps, EcoSport-like grille and connected foglight enclosures. The car is likely to continue with three rows and come with the option of 2.2-litre and 3.0-litre diesel. http://www.autocarindia.com/News/353...n-its-way.aspx
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