[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by Sweet Chariot

Sad to see GM/Fiat not picking up on the sales even with refreshed cars.

Once the image damaged, it is damaged and takes A LOT effort to revive.

For GM, I have no hopes but waiting to see how Fiat responds.

Anurag.

[sourabhzen]

Originally Posted by subratasenn

Another point to note. Liva selling more than Figo and much much more than Polo. Almost touching Ritz. Etios figures looking good too. This, despite all the bashing that Liva and Etios have gotten from all quarters. Toyota seems to be holding on in their only sub ten-lakh offerings, despite being newcomers here. What's the secret?

Touching Ritz does not mean its going good. Ritz is a sales dud for Maruti as on date. IMO it is a shame for Toyota that it's product is below an underperformed car from Maruti. And it's Toyota to be blamed for it.

[subratasenn]

Originally Posted by sourabhzen

Touching Ritz does not mean its going good. Ritz is a sales dud for Maruti as on date. IMO it is a shame for Toyota that it's product is below an underperformed car from Maruti. And it's Toyota to be blamed for it.

Don't quite agree. Maruti is the Don of sub 10-lakh cars, god of sub 5-lakh cars in India. Even a market dud in this segment from Maruti is a prince, if not a king. Toyota has always been zero in sub 10-lakh category and is not yet born in sub 5-lakh segment. For Toyota reaching even a market dud in this segment is a "princely" achievement.

Likewise, in the 10 lakh plus category, touching the sales of a Toyota dud would be a real achievement from Maruti. And I don't foresee that in the next 10 years.

[gsurya]

Originally Posted by Sweet Chariot

Good going for Maruti dzire and very impressed that it over took the much sold Alto. i am not very impressed with city but still good to see beat the best seller verna! ford is not doing too well with Figo/Classic and not one Fiesta sold?? i am shocked to see a good car doing very bad.

Sad to see GM/Fiat not picking up on the sales even with refreshed cars.

Chevy Enjoy is not as good as Tavera. Aveo was better than Sail Sedan, I happily own an Aveo.

Sail U-VA is a poor mix of styling of the old Sail & U-VA hatchbacks. Spark is at end of its lifecycle.

Cruze & Captiva are very good but too high priced & not seen as VFM in their segments.

Chevy has a lovely brand image globally, but have undermined it by releasing bland & ordinary models here even though their after sales service is 2nd best only to Maruti.

[sourabhzen]

Originally Posted by subratasenn

For Toyota reaching even a market dud in this segment is a "princely" achievement.

Not for Toyota. All of us had huge expectations from the small car when it was announced by Toyota and the result is a equally huge disappointment. And saying that it closed in on the Ritz is making it even a bigger loser.

Originally Posted by subratasenn

Likewise, in the 10 lakh plus category, touching the sales of a Toyota dud would be a real achievement from Maruti. And I don't foresee that in the next 10 years.

For Maruti, may be yes. But others are giving Toyota a tough fight in this category too. Moreover, I still believe their products are overpriced which will not help them with sale of products, other than Innova.

[GTO]

*Update*

Mahindra Thar numbers just came in.

May 2014 = 904 units

[tejas08]

Came across an article in today's Times of India regarding VW lowering it market share target.

http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/A...20062014019047

They plan to achieve close to 7-8% Market share by 2018 after the lowering down of the target.

At 1 to 1.5% market share in 4 years, its a steep mountain to climb, specially with the current image of VW cars as "High maintenance cost cars". It will be extremely difficult for VW to shed this image very soon.

[drsingh]

Originally Posted by tejas08

Came across an article in today's Times of India regarding VW lowering it market share target.

http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/A...20062014019047


At 1 to 1.5% market share in 4 years, its a steep mountain to climb, specially with the current image of VW cars as "High maintenance cost cars". It will be extremely difficult for VW to shed this image very soon.

I don't they want to shed that image. I get the feeling Skoda and VW enjoy similar brand value/perception in India. At least upto the D segment vehicles.

They haven't been able /don't want to push Skoda into the "value segment" like it is in Europe. I doubt they want to be "value oriented" although Fiat has done this well recently with lower spare costs and cheaper service

[an_and]

Originally Posted by drsingh

I don't they want to shed that image. I get the feeling Skoda and VW enjoy similar brand value/perception in India. At least upto the D segment vehicles.

They haven't been able /don't want to push Skoda into the "value segment" like it is in Europe. I doubt they want to be "value oriented" although Fiat has done this well recently with lower spare costs and cheaper service

Yes, you are right about FIAT. However, with the kind of numbers they are doing, I have my serious doubts on how long will they be able to sustain this proposition of "lower costs and service"

[volkman10]

Maruti Suzuki June Sales Up 33% at 1,12,773 Units.

Domestic sales rose by 31.1 per cent during the month to 1,00,964 units. Sales of mini segment cars, including M800, Alto, A-Star and WagonR rose by 52.1 per cent to 47,618 units. Swift, Estilo, Ritz rose by 6.2 per cent to 22,293 units.
Compact sedan Dzire rose by 27.4 per cent during the month under review at 15,990, SX4 at 322, Gypsy, Grand Vitara and Ertiga, rose at 5,003 and Omni and Eeco at 9,738 units contribute to June sales.

http://profit.ndtv.com/news/corporat...3-units-574383

[aniketi]

^^^ Maruti back in business with good numbers again when market is struggling. Interested to see numbers from others. Not much expected apart from H & H. Mini cars segment with 48 K units is just great. I guess Alto back in business with a bang. Celerio also must be contributing there with ever green Wagon R.

[S.MJet]

Hyundai sold 33,514 units last month as compared to 30,610 units in June 2013, up 9.5 per cent.

Total sales including exports are down by 7.6% to 50518 units.

Source:http://auto.ndtv.com/news/hyundai-in...ne-2014-574408

[RSR]

These are the total domestic car sales in the month of June 2014 for some manufacturers (June 2013 numbers in parenthesis):

Maruti Suzuki - 1,00,964 (77,002)

Hyundai - 33,514 (30,610)

Mahindra - 16,780 (17,232)

Honda - 16,316 (9,297)

Toyota - 12,010 (11,010)

Tata - 7,911 (11,804)

Ford - 7,258 (7,145)

Chevrolet - 5,172 (6,575)

Nissan - 3,265 (2,949)

Datsun - 1,097 (n/a)

Sources: Various press reports

[RavenAvi]

Honda Cars India's detailed break-up of sales in June 2014:

Brio = 1,438

Amaze = 7,075

City = 7,723

CR-V = 80

Domestic Total = 16,316

Exports = 739

Grand Total = 17,055


A growth of 75% from last year's numbers, and a cumulative growth of 40% in the first quarter of 2014, as compared to last year's first-quarter numbers.

The company sold 40,718 units from April – June’14 as against 29,127 units sold during the same period last year, marking a growth of 40%.

Expressing delight on the company’s performance Mr. Jnaneswar Sen, Sr. Vice President – Marketing &Sales, Honda Cars India Ltd. said, “We extend our gratitude to the customers for the continuing success of Honda Amaze and All new City and are confident that we will continue to do well in respective segments. Currently, we are very excited about the upcoming launch of our stylish 7 seater Honda Mobilio at the end of this month and are confident that it will attract Indian consumers with its strong desirable values.”

https://www.hondacarindia.com/mediaC...aspx?pr_id=308

[S.MJet]

As per IAB, Toyota has got 5400 bookings of Etios Cross & 3000 of New Corolla

If this is true, Toyota has managed to turn around the fortune just by wrapping a plastic cladding around the struggling car.

Also 3000 nos for new Corolla is a huge success.

Link:http://indianautosblog.com/2014/07/t...ookings-135558

Edit: Looking at craze for SUVs/Cross Overs, Fiat should be already smelling success for its upcoming Avventura