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| ![]() I actually like the front with all the chrome - what a drama queen this one is ![]() How are the brakes now on the Sunny? That was a major turnoff earlier. I am yet to understand why chauffer driven rides dont choose Sunny with its brilliant dCI! |
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| ![]() Just out of curiosity, I checked out the Sunny Facelift yesterday at Ritu Nissan, GB Road, Thane. I was surprised with the way the Sales Person approached me. Ganesh Chawla, Sr. Sales Consultant at Ritu Nissan has joned from JMD Skoda just 2 months back. An enthusiastic Delhiite brought up in Mumbai. Any prospective buyer can contact him on 8691000717. Back to the car:
Looks and Stance - 8/10(Looked imposing and big) Drive feel - 7/10( No Fiesta here yet drove decent. No gimmicks) Space - 10/10(No comparison at all) Features - 9/10(XV)/ 7/10(XL)- Wished Dual Airbags/Fine Vision Meters Overall Impression- 8/10(Desirable product for those looking beyond Verna/ City or the to be launched Ciaz) Price OTR - 10.83 lacs for XL Dci 11.80 lacs for XV Dci (Both ex Thane with LBT). Discounts- Max. 15K to 20 K on the Down Payment. You could bargain for some freebies- Mats/Carpets etc. Last edited by arnabchak : 30th September 2014 at 12:12. |
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Please check this post. Confirm with dealer regarding this discount. | |
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I have already spoken to the dealer on this. In fact, the same ad is posted in the showrooms as well. The catch is as below: 1) Applicable on 2013 model. 2) No choice of colour 3) No choice of variant 4) Company stock yard piece Didnt make sense as in two months this will be a 2 year old "new" car and the depreciation will be much more than what you save. | |
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| ![]() Hi.. I'm considering this car especially the XV Premium Safety variant for it to be chauffeur driven but wanted to clarify if anybody knew whether the side airbags are for the back or the front seats (can't imagine it would stretch the length of the car!) Thanks, |
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Curtain airbags (that inflate from the car's pillars and create an inflatable curtain along the windows) are not present on the XV Premium (Safety) variant. Curtain airbags are quite common from the D1 segment onwards. The Ford EcoSport {Titanium(O) & Titanium AT variants} and the Hyundai Verna {SX(O) variant} are the only two cars below the D1 segment to feature curtain airbags (6 airbags in total). Apart from the above two, Nissan's Micra dCi {XV P} and Sunny dCi {XV P(S)} are the only other cars to feature side airbags below the D1 segment. Last edited by RSR : 1st November 2014 at 20:16. | |
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Do these really make the rear seated passengers safer? | |
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Apart from cars, SUVs/crossovers that are positioned in the D1 & D2 segments also offer 6 airbags on some or all variants e.g. Honda CR-V, Mahindra XUV5OO, Škoda Yeti, Tata Aria etc. I don't think any vehicle on sale in India that costs less than 25 lacs offers rear side airbags. These are a rather new feature even in advanced markets, but are becoming more common over there slowly. It may take even more time for mainstream cars in India to offer rear side airbags (even as an option). Do they make the rear seat a safer place? Of course, they do. They would be a very useful safety feature to have in the event of an unfortunate side-on collision (either with another vehicle, or a stationary object like a tree, pole etc.) Even in case of the more common frontal offset collisions, curtain airbags can play a very useful role in minimising chances of injury (from impact with the car's doors/windows/pillars) for both the front & rear seat occupants. One really wishes more and more cars in the lower segments offer 6 airbags (front, front side & curtain) at least as an option. Last edited by RSR : 3rd November 2014 at 20:35. | |
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| ![]() Thanks RSR. So is there a SAFE C segment car for the rear seated passenger? Also is it true that rear curtain airbags of the Verna are only activated if seatbelts are engaged in the rear seats? Thanks, |
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A safe C segment car for the rear passengers? Well, hmmmmmm. After seeing how cars meant for the Indian market have fared in the Global-NCAP and Latin-NCAP tests, I'm not going to take the risk of classifying any car (whose Indian market version's NCAP crash test results are not yet available) as being AS SAFE AS their developed market versions. ![]() I can only make an educated guess that in the absence of rear side airbags, then a car with curtain airbags would provide better protection for the rear seat occupants in case of side impacts and certain frontal impacts, when compared to a similar car which is not equipped with inflatable curtains. Unfortunately for India and Indians, there are only two cars in the C segment (and below) which have variants that are equipped with curtain airbags as of today - and they are the Ford EcoSport & Hyundai Verna. Quote:
![]() Each curtain airbag is a single thing that runs along the length of each side (left & right) of the passenger compartment. It is one unit that does not inflate separately for the front and rear seats. So the answer basically is no. The rear seatbelts have no role to play in the activation of the curtain airbags. When the system detects a collision on one side, it triggers the curtain airbag of that side (along with the front side airbag). The curtain airbag may also be deployed in some frontal collisions. This video of the Ford EcoSport's Euro-NCAP test shows the curtain airbag in action in three different scenarios: | ||
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| ![]() I just noticed that the older mid variant XL diesel had both driver and passenger air bags whereas the new facelifted XL model has only driver airbags. That's ridiculous! I wonder what Nissan's top folks were thinking when they signed off on this. |
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![]() On another thread, Im considering which car to go for... and am ending up in the Verna boat!! Unless I consider further expanding my budget. | |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() New Sunny XL variant isn't VFM anymore. No passenger airbag, no rear blower. Only improvement we could see is a bluetooth enabled HU. |
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That is ridiculous. I did not have the older XL as a comparo but when the Govt. is enforcing strong measures for safety, skimping on equipments in a model that previously had one is utterly disgusting. More so, when one of the brand babies- Datsun is making the headlines for all the wrong reasons. | |
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| ![]() I live in Bangalore, and the first thing we look for here is ground clearance. Has that gone up from the "Scrape everything in sight" level yet on this one? any idea? |
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