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Old 25th November 2014, 10:10   #46
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Re: Fiat India's revenues grow 88% in FY 2014

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This is not the complete story. Apart from the domestic car sales & the engine business, Fiat India is also exporting cars made in their local plant to right-hand drive markets & that business is also bringing in money for them which is reflecting in their revenues, so the 80% theory from the engine business isn't correct.
Single digit percentage difference, if at all. The 80% theory is indeed correct. The countries they're exporting to are tiny RHD markets.

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“We are looking to export our cars Palio, Linea and Punto in SAARC countries including Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh as these are right hand driving countries,” Company’s Marketing Head Tarun Khanna told reporters today on this sidelines of new variant of Grande Punto.

The company exported over 2,000 units to South Africa, including 1,100 units of Punto, 360 units of Linea and 650 units of Palio. “We began exporting last year. So far we have exported only to South Africa”, he said.
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Fiat still has a long way to go, they are completely relying on Multijet engine to move their product line up, where as the superb Tjet has been getting step motherly treatment.

Punto with that lethargic 1.2 engine isn't going to cut the deal against the superb Kseries from Maruti, and the Kappa series from Hyundai.
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Do you own punto with 1.2 engine? If not, better get to know the experience of punto owners with 1.2L engines.

For a car which weigh's in around 1100kgs, the 1.2L engine is surprisingly good. Drives great in traffic conditions and can cruise at 100kmph for hours together on highways with good mileage to go with it.

I for that matter won't recommend FIAT's 1.2 Litre petrol engine - it is not only an old school engine and down on power, but the heavier shell of the Punto won't ever do justice to the engine, however drivable they try to make it.

I drive a Punto 75 HP diesel and the kind of traffic I encounter everyday on my drive to office results in an average speed between 12-15 km/hr and never more than 16 km/hr. The fuel average ranges between 11-13 kmpl in summers with A/C and 13-15 kmpl in winters. In case your daily drive has such low average speeds, stick to a diesel - you won't regret it at fill-ups. In my opinion, under heavy traffic conditions - the fuel penalty is higher in petrol engines as compared to diesel engines. The higher torque in diesel engines helps aid drivability at lower speeds resulting in lesser accelerator inputs and gear shift to an extent. Though you need to personally weigh the difference between the purchase price of a diesel variant and a petrol one, vis-a-vis the fuel price difference and difference in fuel efficiency as per your daily running.
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Re: Fiat India's revenues grow 88% in FY 2014

FIAPL 's marketing team are not given the budget to flamboyantly showcase new products by way of flashy, tasteful yet informative and repeated Ad's to etch in prospective customers minds, Their product port folio can never gain popularity and appeal to Aam Junta, All they care to market is about style legacy and how sturdy the cars are. Rarely does an urban Indian look for these.

Also they rely more on Facebook promotions which is a easy and a deliberate way to cut costs on marketing. I remember seeing one newspaper Ad on the EVO with the new dashboard alone and rear quarter of the car, no other details were high lighted, i can still remember the VW talking newspaper Ad way back in 2010 which enhanced leaps and bounds, the already bright brand image.

Fiat India, Bring in Panda Cross also to India to rival tall boys, also bring in Brazil Spec Palio, we are sure with the new independent dealerships, both brands will be looked with more curiosity and customers would have more choice while deciding to opt one from FIAT Stable. Palio has a reputation of being a strong/sturdy/stylish car to normal masses let alone enthusiasts, thanks to Sachin for his endorsements and signature way back in 2001.

Asking for bringing in T Jet's under EVO's hood's would not happen as it's reserved for the Abarth's launch in India.
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It is 2. One at Bangalore and the other one at Delhi.
Hey one Fiat caffe is at Koregaon Park, Pune as well
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There is one in Poona too in Koregaon Park, so 3 as of now.
Reading posts selectively, are we ?

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ml#post3586012

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Re: Fiat India's revenues grow 88% in FY 2014

We can't just conclude that the increase in revenue is just because of the Engine sales to Maruti. Fiat sells 1L engines a year to Maruti. If the engine costs 1L, the revenue from it would be around 1000 crores.

What we are missing is that this revenue that is reported is generated by the JV between Fiat and Tata. The JV still exists for the manufacturing. If Tata launches more cars, Fiat India revenue may also see an increase given the fact that many Tata cars are manufactured at Fiat's Ranjangaon facility.

So, their revenue comes from the cars manufactured at Ranjangaon, Engine sales to Maruti, Export of engine components to China, and Parts sales.
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