Maruti Omni....

vincentt · 18th August 2006, 15:01

Hi,
This is my first post on this forum. I am looking to buy a 4 wheeler and my wife liked the Omni and me too. I have read and seen and know the problem of the safety feature on this vehicle, but somehow the vehicle seems to facinate me, because anyway I will not be going on a race-track!!

Ok, now for my problem. There was in the older omni's a feature near the leg for an air-vent into the vehicle. This would act like a natural AC especially in the absense of a fit AC. I had a look at the new Omni and it does not have the same

. How did Omni miss out on this!!!

What are the other solutions for this to get outside air in, especially to the drivers. I have seen and read about sun roofs. Can a sun roof be fitted to the Omni. I am not looking for the typical sunroof that can be slided back and front, but rather something that buses have got above them, something that pops open up and then lets air come in. Is a fitment like that possible for the Omni and what woudl be the approximate cost.

I stay in Bangalore, if possible kindly suggest me shops where I could go and inquire about this further.

Thanks and awiaitng your responses.

jango · 18th August 2006, 15:16

Hi Vincentt
welcome to Team bhp. I am not too sure abt where the air vents disappeared in the new model, but coming to the sun roof, i would suggest you not to go for the one which u have mentioned in ur post, reason.....if not done properly..water could enter into the omni and it could also rust the roof of the omni, and considering the fact that u stay in b'lore, i really do not feel the requirement of sun roof on a omni, but what you can do to reduce the heat inside the omni is to stick some extra thermocool in and near the engine room, which reduces the hot air inside the drivers chamber..

Palio_2005 · 18th August 2006, 15:40

I would strongly suggest not going for the Omni considering safety issue. A race track would be much safer as compared to our roads.

himanshugoswami · 18th August 2006, 15:47

If your budget allows, y dont you look at teh versa. It gives you all the features of the Omni, better safety, aircon and is overall a better vehicle.

revharder · 18th August 2006, 15:57

vincentt,
i think you are going to use the van with your family, since you mentioned abt your wife's liking abt the van too.

so i'd suggest you to donot go for omnivan at all.
this is the worst car a family man can have. its seriously risky sitting in this s.h.i.t. piece of metal.

recently i lost 5 of my distant relatives in a mishap between their van and a jeep/sumo/else, dont know exactly wat hit them in night on single lane U.P. highway.

my sincere suggestion to you is to either go for alto atleast, which is safer than M800, which again is a risky enough vehicle to sit in, or, go for Versa, which can give you that spaciousness of a van with lot many other things.
if driven sanely, versa is a very competent vehicle, and one can get fabulous discounts on it! just haggle a bit hard with the dealer.

i m repeating my suggestion, donot go for omni van.

ssl2uv108 · 18th August 2006, 16:02

hi vince

pls read this also
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...ters-here.html

try to go for versa.
also pm member shreeram from pune. he will help.

hrag · 18th August 2006, 16:13

vincentt - if the air vents are gone, there's not much that can be done to get outside air in. The air vents are a boon especially in pouring rain where you have to keep the windows rolled up.

You could fit a fan on the dashboard (I did though my November 1999 carb model did have the vents). Seriously, how could Maruti get rid of these on the Omni?

gbpscars · 18th August 2006, 16:28

One does not need to race an Omni to get hurt.

A normally running Omni is already powered coffin.
(Hurting the Omni owners apart - please excuse the pointblankness)

But India / Asia must stop accepting such crazily designed vehicles in the market, compromising safety with price.

Please do not buy an Omni, a sincere note from another family guy.

Safety first.

Abhay · 18th August 2006, 16:42

Hi vincent - do not take offense but if you think that safety is only important on the race-track and not on city roads then there isnt much to say.

Its you and your family's lives concerned and with that in mind and for someone who has any knowledge of cars should know that the Omni is crap in most respects and especially in the safety aspect as a family car.

It might be okay only as a cargo vehicle for some errands but not as a family vehicle...You can go for the Versa or other small cars in case there are budget constraints but hopefully you will stay away from Omni and maybe then Maruti will not put out such sheet metal boxes on wheels in the market.

man23ish · 18th August 2006, 16:51

I've owned an Omni myself, Here are the pro's and cons of the vehicle.

First the Bad things.
1. It is an unsafe vehicle, if not driven carefully.
2. The Omni is not a Highways vehicle at all and especially during the nights.
3. It has no A/C.
4. The ride quality is quite bumpy.

Now the good things.
1. For Bumper-to-Bumper Traffic, the Omni is probably the best vehicle.
2. The road view is very clear, probably the best and it outscores all other vehicles in this department.
3. Omni is safe as long as your drive on roads having dividers.
4. I don't need to say anything about the luggage capacity, it is the best in its class.
5. It comes with various Fuel options, LPG, CNG, etc.

If you are buying a vehicle only for city commute, the Omni is a good VFM vehicle. But if you like to go off-roading and Drag Racing, the Omni is not for you.

Weigh the pros and cons and take an informed decision. For Bangalore Traffic, if you do not intend to travel on the outer-ring-road and if you drive carefully on the Koramangala-Domlur Ring Road, the Omni can serve you well.

speedzak · 18th August 2006, 17:19

Omni is not to be used as a family car. That's for sure!

But to say that is a S.H.I.T piece of metal is something overboard. I know of many countries (where safety standards are way higher) in which this gud ol' bread box is sold even today.

What I mean to say is OMNI is still practical for in-city use as a load mover or as a casual van. It can be used for many purposes and will be the most versatile vehicle ever sold in this part of the world for such a price tag.

Never ever think of using this one on the highways. (It should be banned on highways).

tsk1979 · 18th August 2006, 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincentt

Hi,
This is my first post on this forum. I am looking to buy a 4 wheeler and my wife liked the Omni and me too. I have read and seen and know the problem of the safety feature on this vehicle, but somehow the vehicle seems to facinate me, because anyway I will not be going on a race-track!!

To each one his own! Well its a pretty unsafe vehicle, but its your life. anyways you can get a front crash guard fitted, which will offer some protection in case of low speed crashes and also make sure you always wear the seatbelt

Quote:

Ok, now for my problem. There was in the older omni's a feature near the leg for an air-vent into the vehicle. This would act like a natural AC especially in the absense of a fit AC. I had a look at the new Omni and it does not have the same

. How did Omni miss out on this!!!
What are the other solutions for this to get outside air in, especially to the drivers. I have seen and read about sun roofs. Can a sun roof be fitted to the Omni. I am not looking for the typical sunroof that can be slided back and front, but rather something that buses have got above them, something that pops open up and then lets air come in. Is a fitment like that possible for the Omni and what woudl be the approximate cost.

I stay in Bangalore, if possible kindly suggest me shops where I could go and inquire about this further.

Thanks and awiaitng your responses.

That fresh air thing was there. Long time back some family member owned one. So without AC, yes its a boon, esp in the rains.
The other option is a sunroof. Sunroof can be easily fitted in the Omni,. In Bangalore you can visit the countless accessory shops. visit the Car accessory forum to find out about reputable dealers who will do such fittings. The cost depends on what type of sunroof you are getting. the bus type sunroof is the cheapest option actually as there are no motors etc., involved, just a simple latch. You can go for that but make sure its lockable from inside due to safety concernes.

sumitkalindi · 18th August 2006, 17:40

It looks like that you are primarily looking for a ride in the city. Well I have owned omni both the previous models, the round headlight and then the square headlights. You need skill to drive it safely, as you know it does not have any frontal protection. But believe me, Omni put all the other cars in its catagory to shame with its go anywhere capability, if it gets a good driver. I personally have done many highway runs in it and never felt nervous by its behaviour. Of course versa is a far better Omni, and I would also suggest you to go for Versa if you can. You can really enjoy driving the Omni if you drive sensibly. Never expect it to do stunts and you you will be happy. And yess, go for the 5 seater version, the last row of seats jump too much in the 8 seater one. Though the new version Omni has done away with the air vent, it has also done away with front drums, which is good news as now you have disks at front.

Happy Omniing.

revharder · 19th August 2006, 18:04

last words with me for omni,

buy it, but never crash it, be it highway or city, either from back/front or sideways or from bottom or top!
coz in a crash any car with a bonnet will give you crumple zones, which are capable enough to keep you alive!

i dont know where omni's crumple zone is!
if you could find one, go for it, else you have to look elsewhere!

THE-U- · 19th August 2006, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumitkalindi

yess, go for the 5 seater version, the last row of seats jump too much in the 8 seater one. Though the new version Omni has done away with the air vent, it has also done away with front drums, which is good news as now you have disks at front.

This change to front disk is indeed great. The older Omni had all four drums and the brakes were one of the constant maintenance items. The 8 seater is one of the major reasons that people get Omni. The Versa sure looks nice but also costs at least a Rs.1L higher. I think the whole suspension setup in the Omni is terrible.

Although I haven't driven it now for more than a year, as long as you don't exceed 90kmph, the Omni does feel stable. You start to feel the buffeting after that. The safe speed on the Omni is probably 70 kmph.

With not many wearing seatbelts in India, I don't think any car is safe past 60kmph. Has there really been a crash test for the Omni so that it can be compared with others? The Toyota Previas used to be mid-engine too and if I recall correctly they didn't have a spectacular crash test scores either.

18th August 2006, 15:01	#1
vincentt BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 70 Thanked: Once	Maruti Omni.... Hi, This is my first post on this forum. I am looking to buy a 4 wheeler and my wife liked the Omni and me too. I have read and seen and know the problem of the safety feature on this vehicle, but somehow the vehicle seems to facinate me, because anyway I will not be going on a race-track!! Ok, now for my problem. There was in the older omni's a feature near the leg for an air-vent into the vehicle. This would act like a natural AC especially in the absense of a fit AC. I had a look at the new Omni and it does not have the same . How did Omni miss out on this!!! What are the other solutions for this to get outside air in, especially to the drivers. I have seen and read about sun roofs. Can a sun roof be fitted to the Omni. I am not looking for the typical sunroof that can be slided back and front, but rather something that buses have got above them, something that pops open up and then lets air come in. Is a fitment like that possible for the Omni and what woudl be the approximate cost. I stay in Bangalore, if possible kindly suggest me shops where I could go and inquire about this further. Thanks and awiaitng your responses.
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18th August 2006, 15:16	#2
jango BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York & kotayam Posts: 800 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	Hi Vincentt welcome to Team bhp. I am not too sure abt where the air vents disappeared in the new model, but coming to the sun roof, i would suggest you not to go for the one which u have mentioned in ur post, reason.....if not done properly..water could enter into the omni and it could also rust the roof of the omni, and considering the fact that u stay in b'lore, i really do not feel the requirement of sun roof on a omni, but what you can do to reduce the heat inside the omni is to stick some extra thermocool in and near the engine room, which reduces the hot air inside the drivers chamber..
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18th August 2006, 15:40	#3
Palio_2005 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 991 Thanked: 878 Times	I would strongly suggest not going for the Omni considering safety issue. A race track would be much safer as compared to our roads.
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18th August 2006, 15:47	#4
himanshugoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: !!!! Posts: 2,303 Thanked: 2,619 Times	If your budget allows, y dont you look at teh versa. It gives you all the features of the Omni, better safety, aircon and is overall a better vehicle.
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18th August 2006, 15:57	#5
revharder BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 460 Thanked: 56 Times	vincentt, i think you are going to use the van with your family, since you mentioned abt your wife's liking abt the van too. so i'd suggest you to donot go for omnivan at all. this is the worst car a family man can have. its seriously risky sitting in this s.h.i.t. piece of metal. recently i lost 5 of my distant relatives in a mishap between their van and a jeep/sumo/else, dont know exactly wat hit them in night on single lane U.P. highway. my sincere suggestion to you is to either go for alto atleast, which is safer than M800, which again is a risky enough vehicle to sit in, or, go for Versa, which can give you that spaciousness of a van with lot many other things. if driven sanely, versa is a very competent vehicle, and one can get fabulous discounts on it! just haggle a bit hard with the dealer. i m repeating my suggestion, donot go for omni van.
	() Thanks

18th August 2006, 16:02	#6
ssl2uv108 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 57 Thanked: 0 Times	hi vince pls read this also http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...ters-here.html try to go for versa. also pm member shreeram from pune. he will help.
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18th August 2006, 16:13	#7
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	vincentt - if the air vents are gone, there's not much that can be done to get outside air in. The air vents are a boon especially in pouring rain where you have to keep the windows rolled up. You could fit a fan on the dashboard (I did though my November 1999 carb model did have the vents). Seriously, how could Maruti get rid of these on the Omni?
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18th August 2006, 16:28	#8
gbpscars BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 402 Thanked: 5 Times	One does not need to race an Omni to get hurt. A normally running Omni is already powered coffin. (Hurting the Omni owners apart - please excuse the pointblankness) But India / Asia must stop accepting such crazily designed vehicles in the market, compromising safety with price. Please do not buy an Omni, a sincere note from another family guy. Safety first.
	() Thanks

18th August 2006, 16:42	#9
Abhay BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 727 Thanked: 11 Times	Hi vincent - do not take offense but if you think that safety is only important on the race-track and not on city roads then there isnt much to say. Its you and your family's lives concerned and with that in mind and for someone who has any knowledge of cars should know that the Omni is crap in most respects and especially in the safety aspect as a family car. It might be okay only as a cargo vehicle for some errands but not as a family vehicle...You can go for the Versa or other small cars in case there are budget constraints but hopefully you will stay away from Omni and maybe then Maruti will not put out such sheet metal boxes on wheels in the market.
	() Thanks

18th August 2006, 16:51	#10
man23ish BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 626 Thanked: 18 Times	I've owned an Omni myself, Here are the pro's and cons of the vehicle. First the Bad things. 1. It is an unsafe vehicle, if not driven carefully. 2. The Omni is not a Highways vehicle at all and especially during the nights. 3. It has no A/C. 4. The ride quality is quite bumpy. Now the good things. 1. For Bumper-to-Bumper Traffic, the Omni is probably the best vehicle. 2. The road view is very clear, probably the best and it outscores all other vehicles in this department. 3. Omni is safe as long as your drive on roads having dividers. 4. I don't need to say anything about the luggage capacity, it is the best in its class. 5. It comes with various Fuel options, LPG, CNG, etc. If you are buying a vehicle only for city commute, the Omni is a good VFM vehicle. But if you like to go off-roading and Drag Racing, the Omni is not for you. Weigh the pros and cons and take an informed decision. For Bangalore Traffic, if you do not intend to travel on the outer-ring-road and if you drive carefully on the Koramangala-Domlur Ring Road, the Omni can serve you well.
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18th August 2006, 17:19	#11
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Omni is not to be used as a family car. That's for sure! But to say that is a S.H.I.T piece of metal is something overboard. I know of many countries (where safety standards are way higher) in which this gud ol' bread box is sold even today. What I mean to say is OMNI is still practical for in-city use as a load mover or as a casual van. It can be used for many purposes and will be the most versatile vehicle ever sold in this part of the world for such a price tag. Never ever think of using this one on the highways. (It should be banned on highways).
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18th August 2006, 17:40	#13
sumitkalindi BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 376 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	It looks like that you are primarily looking for a ride in the city. Well I have owned omni both the previous models, the round headlight and then the square headlights. You need skill to drive it safely, as you know it does not have any frontal protection. But believe me, Omni put all the other cars in its catagory to shame with its go anywhere capability, if it gets a good driver. I personally have done many highway runs in it and never felt nervous by its behaviour. Of course versa is a far better Omni, and I would also suggest you to go for Versa if you can. You can really enjoy driving the Omni if you drive sensibly. Never expect it to do stunts and you you will be happy. And yess, go for the 5 seater version, the last row of seats jump too much in the 8 seater one. Though the new version Omni has done away with the air vent, it has also done away with front drums, which is good news as now you have disks at front. Happy Omniing.
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19th August 2006, 18:04	#14
revharder BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 460 Thanked: 56 Times	last words with me for omni, buy it, but never crash it, be it highway or city, either from back/front or sideways or from bottom or top! coz in a crash any car with a bonnet will give you crumple zones, which are capable enough to keep you alive! i dont know where omni's crumple zone is! if you could find one, go for it, else you have to look elsewhere! Last edited by revharder : 19th August 2006 at 18:05.
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