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BHPian ![]() | ![]() We don't know how this person worked the clutch, the angle, throttle etc. Until someone does more proper loaded test drive, let's give it the benefit of the doubt. Else this would be misinformation. I've seen altos struggling super bad on some inclines with even two on board. Comparo with activa? Moving on. Last edited by SandyX : 12th October 2015 at 17:58. |
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And yes, driving Activa was fun after driving a Kwid; Activa zipped off from red lights while Kwid was quite slow with 4 on board ![]() Quote:
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Me says Kwid will fare the same as an Alto with 4 on board & luggage. Maybe a little better, since Kwid has 4 PS & couple of NM torque more than the Alto. Nano with a 2 pot 660 cc engine does alright on these mall parking inclines. Test drive is a must. It all depends on which gear you are in (apart from the gear ratios) Last edited by vinit.merchant : 12th October 2015 at 18:34. | |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Had some free time, so read a few Kwid reviews and while there are contrasting statements on the drive performance, there are hints that the engine needs some getting used to. http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-rev...-397416,0.aspx "However, it’s best to use the accelerator gently and smoothly with this engine, as it doesn’t respond well to hasty inputs. Punch down hard and it will stutter and fumble, and the resultant acceleration is not smooth at all." http://auto.ndtv.com/reviews/renault...review-1216195 "However, it does feel a little defeated when you come up against even the smallest incline." http://www.carwale.com/renault-cars/...reviews-20049/ "As soon as you let go of the clutch you realise that the engine doesn’t feel very peppy and there are flat spots when accelerating from very low engine speeds, so this motor needs to be revved a bit to gain momentum. But when not in a hurry..." http://www.autox.in/reviews/car-revi...-drive-review/ " It is defeated slightly, however, when you come up against even the smallest incline. That’s when you feel that the 53bhp and 72Nm of torque aren’t quite adequate." It could be a case of sacrificing some peppiness for fuel efficiency or gear ratios that demand familiarity to deliver the punch, if any. I would suggest a longer test drive if in doubt. A standard TD of a few kilometers may not suffice. Better yet, wait for the TBHP official review if you are not daunted by the ever increasing waiting periods. |
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Kwid fairs better than Alto 800 and miles ahead of Eon. Based on two test drives I have taken, I would call power as adequate and much better than direct competition. | |
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When someone buys a vehicle, he needs it to serve his own purpose be it mileage, comfort or power. Yes, we do not have much of a choice in the lower segment but it is not a crime to expect a little extra from our hard earned money. What is the fun of driving an underpowered engine when one does not like it? Anyone who drives knows how to pull up a car on an incline with or without extra effort. It is his decision if he chooses to live with a well-powered or an underpowered motor. Please do not make irrelevant statements about the driving techniques. | |
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Reviews about an engine can't go more one sided about a car. How can we compare an A Segment car with any other segment car? When they review a car like Kwid, don't they already know that the car of this segment will struggle due to its small capacity? I own an Alto 800, chief competitor of Kwid, and I can confirm the following facts, just to give the perspective: a) When you floor the A pedal, literally nothing happens. The car takes its own sweet time before it responds with a few kmph increase. Only in third gear, when I am alone in the car, and the AC is switched off, it seem to move a bit comfortably fast. i.e around 35 - 45 kmph. b) Typical gearing - after 10kmph - Shift to 2. After 20 kmph - Shift to 3. After 35 kmph - Shift to 4. After 50 kmph - Shift to 5. If we stay in lower gear, engine struggles. c) Climbing inclines - I can cross my office parking lot in 2nd gear without AC, single person, without riding the clutch. However, my office parking incline is one of the very reasonably built inclines. If I have to take the worst case mall parking lots, I would have to go in 1st gear. Once, I had to conquer an incline that was built bumpy, to reduce the speed of declining (entering) vehicles. For this, I had to reverse, build up speed from distance and slip the clutch to reach the top. d) Overtaking on highways: Best avoided on single carriageways. It is scary if the oncoming vehicle is nearing, and if your vehicle cannot support you to overtake a vehicle comfortably before the bus or truck reaches you. e) Hill Driving: Ooty is not one of the challenging inclines, but I comfortably took it up and down in 3rd gear. This 800cc car is built for sedate driving, and it is no wonder that the Kwid also delivers the similar engine behaviour. I have not taken TD of Kwid, but when I take it, if the engine dynamics of Kwid is similar to Kwid, I will not be surprised for obvious reasons. | |
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More than cc and BHP one should also consider power to weight ratio. Just see below: Alto K10:91 BHP/Ton Alto800: 68 BHP/Ton Eon: 77BHP/Ton Kwid:85 BHP/Ton i20:78 BHP/Ton | |
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| ![]() When will the TBHP official review come out for Kwid..? |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() This may seem like a taunt, but it isn't. I have not test driven the Kwid and possibly may not, but have driven the Alto 800, and the Omni which implies the same engine and a lot more weight and have driven it on steep mall parking inclines and had to switch of the AC and did sweat all the way up. So a thought just occurred to me. The 1 ton wt Fiat 1100 (own the milicento) with anything between 40-48 Bhp power (no AC) did do quite well on our roads just 20 years back and did climb the Lonanvala/khandala ghats. (There were no mall parking lots as yet then.) Times have changed indeed. I expect the Kwid practically to be exactly the same as the Alto 800 (maybe be better by 5%) as far as engine performance on inclines is concerned. But we may require to modulate the accelerator a bit differently. Also do remember that new vehicles are in general not yet settled in and we drive them harshly only 1000 kms down the road in normal course of any car purchase. The differentiator is possibly the looks and interiors and space rather than the engine, and hey it will likely bring a smile to your face as well as that of someone watching he vehicle unlike today in the case of the Alto 800. Lets give the vehicle a chance, it is up against big odds and lets leave the comparo with the 1000 cc engines for when they introduce that variant. |
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![]() Many people just book their cars just based on looks or low cost or any other one single parameter, and not based on the typical elaborate test drives. To share my own experience - I was looking for a used car, and got some terrifying experiences seeing some lemons. So, I wanted a car, and I wanted it soon! I called up a friend who worked as a manager in Maruti, and asked him to bring Alto for TD on a Saturday. Me and Wife took it around on some free roads, and immediately paid the booking advance of Rs.1000, selected the trim, colour etc and finalized on the amount to be paid, after some negotiations in the showroom the same day. Two days later, verified the car in person before it went to RTO. Next day, which was our marriage anniversary, took delivery of the car! I made the full payment in cash, which was collected from our home by our friend. My criteria about the car was - one that costs cheap and would be useful to carry around some luggage and four people at the same time. Till now, the car has been immensely useful and it satisfies me because: a) It is EMI free from day 1. b) Majority of the time, I use it alone, within city. Bigger car means extra $$ per km travel. c) I drive sedately. So some of the highway drives also have been enjoyable to me. d) Some of my routes include very narrow winding stretches, which would have been much difficult with a bigger B2 or higher segment car. So booking a lower segment car has its own advantages at a fraction of the cost. Since you love the looks of the car, you will like its behaviour from day 1. Keep us updated about the proceedings and the delivery. ![]() | |
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![]() Regarding the all cash payment, aren't any income tax issues involved? I heard that if the payment is more than the annual taxable income mentioned in your latest return you might be under scanner. I have just started my business and my last 2 years ITS were just for record purposes and were income tax slab. I prefer arranging money from family and friends and paying in cash than paying EMIs but the income tax issue is bothering me. Will appreciate any opinion. | |
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| ![]() I did small test drive for kwid, after driving bigger cars for many years now it failed to impress me other than just looks. Driving I felt like similar to Nano as well as breaking part. It takes substantial amount of time to before comes to halt. Seats are just close to bench type, and noise inside cabin is more than expected. Lastly clutch play was like after after 30-40% release you will get the motion. Overall didn't like that much. I guess have to cancel the booking, thought will keep this as spare care, but it doesn't deserve to get that space either. @chandra1, go for loan from SBI etc for 5 yrs. It will have lower EMI impact and you can prepay or part pay as and when you have some extra bucks. Mod Note : There are several spelling & grammatical errors in your posts. This negatively affects the forum experience for other readers. Kindly ensure that you proof-read your posts prior to submission. Last edited by Aditya : 14th October 2015 at 06:57. Reason: Grammatical errors |
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