[ScorpMan]

Originally Posted by hybridpetrol

We depend a lot based on the number of kilos the car weighs, isn't it?
If the Baleno had weighed more than Swift, say around 1300kgs, would any of us questioned the car's build quality?
In other words, when talking about build quality, more kilos = more peace of mind = more safe!
Regarding the rear seat - I believe, Baleno's rear seat is at par with most hatchbacks. Probably only inferior to roomy hatchbacks such as Jazz and Bolt.
Plastic quality - again at par with the segment. You cannot expect soft touch plastics seen in 12L S-Cross in Baleno, right?

Nowhere in my post have I mentioned anything about the Baleno's weight or it being lighter than the Swift. Build Quality is a much broader term than just talking about the car being heavier & hence perceived to be safer. AFAIK, Baleno's chassis is 10-15% stiffer than the Swift despite weighing a lot less and hence will prove to be more safer.

Also note, that nowhere I mentioned soft touch plastics or compared it to a car from higher segment. When I am in the market to buy an elder sibling to my current car, which MSIL calls Premium, I do expect a much better Plastic Quality, which the Baleno doesn't have.

[deetjohn]

Originally Posted by HolyDriver

Continuation of my previous post and answers of some queries of fellow BHPians:

RM said the square button is the keyless button to unlock the tailgate.

Even S-Cross got a separate button for request sensor alongside the electromagnetic button to open the tailgate. Wonder why MSIL cannot merge the two! In the Fiesta, its a single button. As long as you have the smart key with you, pressing the electromagnetic button will pop the boot lid. It is much more user friendly when you carrying stuff to be loaded in the car.



Nice to see that Maruti has kept the font almost the same between the old and the new cars. But the cars themselves couldn't be any further apart be it body style, external appeal, engine capacity, kit, mass market attraction etc. Let's hope the Fun to Drive aspect remains.

[arvi86]

Did anybody notice that the prices of pre-owned Baleno sedans have gone up ever so slightly after all the positive buzz surrounding the new Baleno hatch?

[SRK]

It seems the Baleno gets different lights based on the variant.



The difference can be seen in the Alpha and Delta models here (not sure if Zeta also has the same lights as the Alpha).

The brochure does not mention about it. All it says is that all models get Rear Combination Lamps with LED.

If it is only available in the Alpha model, then this is one more feature that the lower models will miss but isn't highlighted by Maruti.

[volkman10]

Booster jet details trickle in for Baleno,



http://websta.me/p/1110218022548744822_283579169

[romeomidhun]

Originally Posted by SRK

It seems the Baleno gets different lights based on the variant.

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The Baleno tail lamps reminds me the tail lamps of the original jellybean Zen because of its simplicity and elegance . Had the Baleno head lamps were also that simple and had it been named as Zen / SuperZen, it would have been a terrific comeback. For me, somehow, the name Baleno doesn't gel well with the car.

[invidious]

I don't see the link for the Accessories - can someone share it?

[SRK]

Originally Posted by romeomidhun

The Baleno tail lamps reminds me the tail lamps of the original jellybean Zen because of its simplicity and elegance . Had the Baleno head lamps were also that simple and had it been named as Zen / SuperZen, it would have been a terrific comeback. For me, somehow, the name Baleno doesn't gel well with the car.

Yes, while the Baleno would be a good successor to the Swift, it does remind of the jelly bean shaped Zen.

Originally Posted by invidious

I don't see the link for the Accessories - can someone share it?

Here you go ACCESSORISE AND STYLE

It takes some time to load.

[invidious]

Originally Posted by SRK

Yes, while the Baleno would be a good successor to the Swift, it does remind of the jelly bean shaped Zen.



Here you go ACCESSORISE AND STYLE

It takes some time to load.

Yes, but that only shows the S-Cross - it doesn't show the Baleno.

[ckranjan]

Originally Posted by ScorpMan

Nowhere in my post have I mentioned anything about the Baleno's weight or it being lighter than the Swift. Build Quality is a much broader term than just talking about the car being heavier & hence perceived to be safer. AFAIK, Baleno's chassis is 10-15% stiffer than the Swift despite weighing a lot less and hence will prove to be more safer.

Whats your source that Baleno's chasis is stiffer than Swift?

They have reduced the weight by 10-15 % by increasing the rigidity of the steel used by 10-15%. It means that the overall rigidity is same. The only positive thing to come out is that weight has been decreased to aid fuel efficiency.

Baleno is as safe or unsafe as Swift.

[arunphilip]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Booster jet details trickle in for Baleno,
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Turbocharged petrol with a 6-speed autobox. Very, very nice.

Lesson to Ford - they've had their 1.0 EcoBoost paired with their 6-speed PowerShift transmission, but have not offered it in India in any car - neither the EcoSport or Fiesta which would have been good candidates. A missed opportunity.

So, after VW sets the trend with their Polo TSI, the next one is... Maruti. My my my. Kudos to Maruti for this move.

[SRK]

Originally Posted by invidious

Yes, but that only shows the S-Cross - it doesn't show the Baleno.

You have to choose the Baleno from the list. It will show both the S-cross and the Baleno.

[IshaanIan]

Originally Posted by ckranjan

Whats your source that Baleno's chasis is stiffer than Swift?

They have reduced the weight by 10-15 % by increasing the rigidity of the steel used by 10-15%. It means that the overall rigidity is same. The only positive thing to come out is that weight has been decreased to aid fuel efficiency.

Baleno is as safe or unsafe as Swift.

Please have a look:

https://youtu.be/Sv9L7bt7ajc?t=222

The latest iteration of the Swift was engineered in 2010. This Baleno, has been engineered in 2015. Crash safety regulatory agencies make their scoring criteria stricter with each passing year so manufacturers need to comply to ensure that their new model preferably scores higher if not atleast the same (the latter charectistic only being exploited in countries like India) as the old model. The frustrated emoticons are overused here

[adimicra]

I just wanted to clarify something here.

The European Swift did very well in crash tests and I think it got a very respectable 4* rating in Euro NCAP. It's just that the Indian Swift crumbled like a tin can in crash tests which simply indicates that Maruti did compromise of some structural elements or strength of metal compared to the Euro version.

So, if the Baleno sold in India is as good as the European version of the Swift, I see no issues but if it is 10-15% safer than the Indian version of the Swift, then it's not saying much. Let's hope that Maruti has not compromised on the Indian Baleno as it did with the Swift.

Edit - Euro Swift 2010 got 5* safety rating from EuroNCAP. Just goes to show the terrible cost cutting measures employed by our market leader. shameful !

Link below
http://www.euroncap.com/en/results/suzuki/swift/11026

[lurker]

weighing less is simply bad news for safety. No two ways of looking at it. Baleno has no sci-fi materials such as titanium or carbon fibre. It is just thinner gauge steel which has been slightly curved at places to increase strength. Just like the rooftop panel in some economy models has ribs for increasing strength and by all accounts it may be a lighter panel than used for sides and front.

To give the benefit of doubt to Maruti, they may have designed and certified the YRA baleno while there was not such a big brouhaha over NCAP tests and safety. To the credit of Suzuki designers, the baleno is wide and long enough to incorporate some more safety structural members than say the Swift ZDI which doesn't have any place left in the hood to accomodate the frontal crash member.