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Old 10th September 2019, 13:36   #346
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In a BSVI Diesel Car, due to changes in the exhaust treatment system using a different catalytic convertor, additional particulate filter and other Engine tune changes its imperative to use BSVI fuel.
Yup, I see your point now. I had not thought of real life testing of the BS VI engines and other additional emissions related tech as you pointed out. This is something we can hope OEMs would have done sufficiently. If it's any consolation, most of the international OEMs would have sufficient experience handling this scenario in other markets where similar emission norms (Euro VI etc.) are in place for a while.
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I have a BS 3 motorcycle (May 2016 bought), that has hardly been used.
I recently(end July) had to renew the PUC, for renewal of insurance. And to my shock, I was given a PUC valid for only 3 months.

Now with BS6 norms kicking in soon, I am unsure of the future of BS3 vehicles. Should I sell it? What if the duration of PUC is reduced to 1 month? I can't get a PUC every month.
Are there any chances of a ban on BS3 2 wheelers altogether?
It would undoubtedly be a tad harsh on people who bought BS3 bikes in 2014, 2015,2016 and early 2017 (BS4 for 2 wheelers became mandatory only in April 2017), because they didn't even get to use their vehicles for half a decade.
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Old 13th September 2019, 07:31   #348
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a BSVI Diesel car its recommended to use only BSVI Diesel.
BS6 requires specific engine oils only; the extra sulphur in BS4 diesel would contaminate this oil so anyone getting a BS6 diesel should change the oil well before the prescribed intervals till BS4 fuel is available in their area.


This is an interesting read:

https://www.tuckstruck.net/truck-and...f/fuel-issues/

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Old 13th September 2019, 08:48   #349
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I have a BS 3 motorcycle (May 2016 bought), that has hardly been used.
I recently(end July) had to renew the PUC, for renewal of insurance. And to my shock, I was given a PUC valid for only 3 months.
Yes, BS-III vehicles PUC is valid for 3 months only. This has been the case since 2010 for cars when BS-IV (for cars) came into effect. I don't think you need to worry about this and i don't see this getting reduced any further. Also, no one will ban BS-III vehicles (there are just too many on the roads). So, just enjoy your bike and get a PUC done every 3 months.
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Now BS is specifically at a lower speed.

Also, are we exempting EVs and even hybrids from the norms, as we should? Fingers crossed.
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BS6 acceptance is still not there, as with the manufacturer having so many models BS6 compliant, still facing the biggest drop in sales!

Also, Despite BS6 being launched with an increment of less than 10k.

Today's TOI:-

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Old 17th September 2019, 19:46   #352
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Quick question on BS 6 - I am residing in Delhi and whenever i ask the attendant if the fuels is BS6, they are clueless. This confuses me more.

Also, i am planning to buy a BS6 Diesel car and whenever i plan to travel outstation, i know that the fuel will be BS4. Some of the youtube videos explain that BS4 diesel in BS6 car impacts the engine adversely.

I need some experts opinion here based on which i might defer my purchase.
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On BSVI and more: C V Raman , Maruti Suzuki.

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I think this article sums it up really well the effect a BS4 diesel has on a BS6 diesel car.

"However, for diesel cars, using BS4 fuel in a BS6 car can potentially cause many problems, some of which could have a bearing on your finances. BS6 compliant diesel engines include sophisticated electronic units like the Diesel Particulate Filter, and technologies like Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR), which can be adversely impacted by high sulphur content in fuel. Higher sulphur content will increase emissions and also clog the DPF, an expensive component to replace."

Source: //economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/70853624.cms?from=mdr&utm_source=contentofinterest &utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst


However, some of the manufacturers are claiming that their engines will not be affected much even by using a BS4 diesel fuel. But, if it were up to me, I'd prefer avoiding buying a Diesel BS6 car.

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However, some of the manufacturers are claiming that their engines will not be affected much even by using a BS4 diesel fuel. But, if it were up to me, I'd prefer avoiding buying a Diesel BS6 car.

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This is what I have been saying as well. BSVI on small cars or even CSUVs (sub 2L) would not be economical. Petrol/CNG/LPG would be the better options going forward. EV cars still have a long way to go in India.
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This is what I have been saying as well. BSVI on small cars or even CSUVs (sub 2L) would not be economical. Petrol/CNG/LPG would be the better options going forward. EV cars still have a long way to go in India.
Agreed. The price hike alone of a new BS6 diesel vehicle can go up to 20% apart from the added maintenance cost and more frequent servicing of certain parts due to using BS4 diesel fuel.
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Agreed. The price hike alone of a new BS6 diesel vehicle can go up to 20% apart from the added maintenance cost and more frequent servicing of certain parts due to using BS4 diesel fuel.
Even with BSVI diesel, the maintenance expense is expected to be higher. Further, it is not recommended to run a BSVI diesel vechicle with BSIV diesel.
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Soon I'll have a BS6 Petrol Seltos in my garage. I can ensure to fill it with BS6 petrol when driving inside city limits. But during long distance / out of town trips it's very likely that I will have to fill it with BS4 fuel because until the norm kicks in pan-India we shall have only few bunks with BS6 fuel and this mixture in the tank will become inevitable.

Does anybody know what are the implications (if any) when a BS6 engine runs on a mixture of BS4 and BS6 fuel, say for 6 months?

Do you think I would be better off running only BS4 fuel now and migrate to BS6 fuel only after Apr 2020, when I can be confident to find BS6 fuel in every nook and cranny of the country.
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Does anybody know what are the implications (if any) when a BS6 engine runs on a mixture of BS4 and BS6 fuel, say for 6 months?

Do you think I would be better off running only BS4 fuel now and migrate to BS6 fuel only after Apr 2020, when I can be confident to find BS6 fuel in every nook and cranny of the country.
Running a BSVI petrol vehicle with BSIV is not too much of an issue. If you have access to BSVI petrol you could very well fill that. A mix of BSIV and BSVI petrol would be better than BSIV petrol only.
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Entire Delhi NCR all set to get BS 6 fuel from today.

https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/ind...eadline-553592
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