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Originally Posted by shashanka
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That's odd to say the least! Most people (me included) bought the Scorpio basically because it is the SUV's SUV, if you know what I mean:D - it looks & feels nothing like a normal car (sedan or hatchback).
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I say it will be the alternative to the classic form, it is in fact Dr. Goenka's words. The car is intended for those who are buying the Duster, EcoSport or the Nexon. Mahindra does not have a light weight monocoque SUV with a compact car-like driving manners in that segment. The S201 will bring them that.
This is the link to his interview :-) -
http://www.livemint.com/Companies/Kh...portfolio.html
Based on Tivoli,Mahindra & Mahindra’s (M&M) all-new compact SUV (Code: S201) expected in mid-2018 . Will take on the< 4m CUV segment players.
The S201 will be powered by state-of-the-art petrol and diesel engines developed in-house, which will give us best-in-class performance.
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The S201’s motor belongs to Mahindra’s all-new mFalcon engine family. The first derivative of the mFalcon made its debut in naturally aspirated form as the G80 1.2-litre, three-cylinder unit under the hood of the Mahindra KUV100, making a modest 80.6hp.
The new compact SUV's 1.2 motor is essentially the same three-cylinder unit with the same bore and stroke but it gets direct fuel-injection and a fairly large turbocharger which will result in a massive leap in power to around 140hp. Compared to the competition, the S201’s motor is a good 30hp more than the Tata Nexon's and around 20hp more than the new Ford 1.5-litre ‘Dragon’ which will make its global debut in India later this year
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The S201 will also be powered by a 1.5-litre, four-cylinder diesel, which is essentially the 1.2, three-cylinder diesel motor that was also first introduced in the KUV100, but with an extra cylinder.
Power figures haven't been disclosed yet but sources reveal that the 1.5 diesel could develop as much as 125hp, which again gives the S201 a power output that is way ahead of its rivals
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Saw this today in Chennai. Hope it is the next Swift.
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Originally Posted by r_devakumar
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Saw this today in Chennai. Hope it is the next Swift.
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Its ssangyong Tivoli. Finally it might be coming to India.
Attaching an image of Tivoli
here .
Hope if its coming to India, its priced with high value for money quotient.
This car also wears the same kind of style on the high flaired wheel arch like the upcoming Rexton. Just don't like it. It reminds me of the design of the HM Ambassador! Didn't like the tail-lamp cluster either. When other car makers are moving away from the design philosophy that was once a hit (Fabia, Swift, Mini Cooper to name a few) - the Tivoli is in that direction.
This image above looks like a culmination of a supersonic speed crash (remember the 1st Tata ARIA ad? :D) involving -
Mini Cooper / Suzuki Swift -- Bottom width, A pillars, roof angle
Alto K10 - headlamps are a straight lift
HM Ambassador - the wheel arch flairs
Fiat 500 - grille/bumper
Skoda Fabia - C pillar, rear window design, bonnet
Vitara Brezza - Bottom front bumper and airdam
Wheel size & OVRMs look as if picked from B2 segment size in proportion to the rest of the car.
It doesn't have 2 headlamps and 2 fog lamps. It has 4 headlamps! :uncontrol
I already can't see a reason why people will buy this over incumbents.
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Originally Posted by aaggoswami
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:thumbs up
With a decent pair of engines should be another XUV for Mahindra.
In the UK this has a pair of very interesting 1.6L engines (numbers wise), which I hope the bring unchanged to India.
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Originally Posted by Reinhard
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I already can't see a reason why people will buy this over incumbents.
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It is a bit confused but not all that bad IMHO. Looks pretty good in black.
:OT I see the inspiration for the rear wheel arch crease of the Mahindra KUV100, though executed far better here.
Two versions for Mahindra’s Tivoli-based S201 SUV, to rival Vitara Brezza and Hyundai's Creta in the >4 m segment.
Mahindra’s S201 range to feature a five-seat sub-four-metre compact SUV and a longer seven-seat variant.
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Mahindra is readying two variants of the SsangYong Tivoli-based SUV which will launch in India by the middle of next year. While one variant will be a sub-four-metre compact SUV with seating for five, the other will be a stretched variant with a third row of seats, making it a seven-seater. The Indian SUV-maker believes that there is a large market for seven-seat SUVs that does not overlap with that of five-seaters.
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Originally Posted by volkman10
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Two versions for Mahindra’s Tivoli-based S201 SUV, to rival Vitara Brezza and Hyundai's Creta in the >4 m segment.
Mahindra’s S201 range to feature a five-seat sub-four-metre compact SUV and a longer seven-seat variant. Link
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Wow! People have really taken the idea from Datson (GO+)! Making any car a 7 seater now. A stretched Tivoli just to make it a 7 seater and appeal to the masses. Considering how the normal Tivoli looks, the longer 7 seater one is going to be a really hideous vehicle.
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Originally Posted by volkman10
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Forgive my knowledge of engines... But that figure of 80hp to 140hp (75% jump) using DI is simply unbelievable to be true! May be a different engine (4 cylinders, higher CC, etc.)
People need to be aware of this issue of carbon deposits associated with all DI engines, Link:
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...-engines-.html
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Originally Posted by rajess_in
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Forgive my knowledge of engines... But that figure of 80hp to 140hp (75% jump) using DI is simply unbelievable to be true! May be a different engine (4 cylinders, higher CC, etc.)
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You missed the "fairly large turbo-charger" which has been strapped on to the engine.
Huge power figures can be extracted from almost any engine with a big enough turbo, but how that power is produced affects its real world utility.
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Originally Posted by aaggoswami
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Oh my God ! Look at that front grill. Mahindra has enough space there to place their rabbit tooth grill. And they might actually spoil a neutral looking vehicle.
Just wondering, hasn't Pininfarina now been a part of Mahindra long enough to have an influence on these products? I'm not sure maybe their handiwork will start to show in the next development cycles. I only ask because, while the Tivoli is a fairly neutral and acceptable, it is an important product for both Ssangyong & Mahindra - one that needs to stand out. This is a decently designed vehicle but - IMO - it doesn't seem like something that would have been done by the designers at Pininfarina.
The Tivoli is a nice looking car and I've seen this up close here in Singapore. But not sure why M&M have to make every car a 7 seater ? What is the point ? There is a clear segment of buyers who don't need those extra seats and would rather have a clean boot configuration. Anyway M&M has so many other vehicles that will serve this need starting from the TUV long and short versions, Scorpio, XUV etc
I saw the same car on the NH4 while driving to Bangalore from Pune.
It looked quite fast.
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