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| ![]() A SA who went to the new fortuner training told me to expect close to 45 lakhs on-road (bangalore) for the top most spec. He also said (though we already know) that the new fortuner is very different from the outgoing model with a lot of additional features and Toyota will charge a hefty premium for it. The SAs were also told to highlight the 'cheapest maintenance cost in segment' while talking to prospective customers. I hope it doesn't touch 45 lakhs on-road here, though with Toyota it might be a possibility! |
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From what I have experienced of Ford (this is my first Ford), the Service levels are almost on par with the industry and a shade more responsive "now". I do not know Toyota service so not qualified to comment but I can safely say that apart from the network breadth, the Ford service is on par with Hyundais and Marutis as I have experienced both. On spares I have had excellent experience wherein some less used parts were shipped in a day from Chennai thus not adding any workshop time. So net net - so far so good. Does it stand up to what brand Toyota has built - well - long way to go. However, from all the comparisons, the product is superior to Toyota Fortuner but struggles with Brand image in comparison. Quote:
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| ![]() Toyotas have a 6 monthly service interval normally, which is a pain. I am not sure of the case with Fortuner. Ford has a 1 year service interval and as an Ecosport owner, I can safely say Ford service has improved by leaps and bounds in recent years. |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() I love Toyotas way of reducing the service cost. They just increase the price of their cars to give the customer a feeling that even though the car is worth 45 lakhs its service cost is that of a 15 lakh rupees car! But the truth is that the car was not supposed to be a 45 lakh rupees car in the first place. TKM just increases the price of the car to increase its aspirational value keeping the mechanicals almost identical. Case in point previous generation Innova and Fortuner. The Innova which I bought in 2010 for 10 lakhs is near identical to the one on sale just before Crysta launch. And not to mention the 5000km service interval which is a pain for people like me who do 3500km a month. I followed that only for a year after that I service it at 6 months 15,000km. My car has no issues whatsoever, I have only switched to synthetic instead of mineral oil that's it. |
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I still have a gut feeling, Toyota will launch this close to Titanium price which will be about Rs 2 Lac more than existing variant. I expect an ex-showroom price of Rs 30 Lac New Delhi which should be around 35 Lac on road - Delhi. For the moment, gone ahead and paid advance last week but will take a final call when I see and drive the vehicle. They are clearly mentioning New Fortuner on booking receipts. Last edited by Turbanator : 6th October 2016 at 11:27. | |
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| ![]() The wait is finally over. The India launch of the vehicle will be on November 7. Better pay up the booking advance immediately. I want a 4X4 version with A/T, |
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| ![]() I neither doubt Toyota's pricing greed, nor the faithful buyers' willingness to pay up. They sold the older gen, barely equipped Innova and Fortuner for a 'fortune' (pun intended) and nobody complained, why the sudden expectation they'll be reasonable? If anything, the success of the new Innova will have made them even more complacent reg. pricing. People are willing to donate an arm, a leg and a kidney to them, why be satisfied with just picking their pockets? ![]() |
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| ![]() I don't quite buy this argument that most people who buy innova/fortuner are goons or people who do not care about price and its associated returns. There are many bhpians who have decided to put down their hard earned money after making an informed decision of what they get and what they don't. If there was lesser value for what they are paying, the sales numbers would have been otherwise. These cars (as with all others) do have their negatives, but also have some stellar positives and unfortunately, there have not been much alternatives/options in the market. Last edited by starter : 6th October 2016 at 17:14. |
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| ![]() I dont think we can blame whomever buying the Toyota / Maruthi vehicles They may be looking for 'peace of mind' when they buy a vehicle, they just dont want to go to service center every now and then. Or atleast they dont want to take a chance by 'trying' other brands. None of the other manufatures are trying to get on par with Toyota when it comes to service quality. Most of them are claiming they are trying and it cant be achieved overnight. If it cant be achieved overnight, then i would say try not to loose the reputation atleast ! Last edited by GTO : 7th October 2016 at 09:42. Reason: Quoted post deleted |
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| ![]() Why do you think we pay through our noses for Toyota vehicles? Because our life depends on our vehicle NOT falling apart. Because we need a vehicle that can carry five or six of our sidekicks along in reasonable comfort. Because we need a vehicle that does not require "plastic bags" to settle service bills in "full cash". On a side note, I used to take out my Bolero to town in market days because it keeps erratic and lunatic drivers and riders a few feet off me as one is assured to get hurt if he tries to argue with an all metal white Bolero. Last edited by GTO : 7th October 2016 at 09:43. Reason: Quoted post deleted |
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| ![]() Apologies, but, I too am one of those, who will pay up for the Fortuner, guess that is why Toyota keeps on increasing the prices. Service costs are not too much of an issue, if, the car goes only for regular servicing. First charging a premium and then advertising the low maintenance cost won't fly with majority of folks shelling out ~45L. The real thing is the peace-of-mind especially on long drives. My Corolla has been one steady cruiser for the last 6-odd years. How is Ford sales and service in Bangalore and who will be a recommended dealer? The way in which people are cursing some of the Ford dealers on Google reviews, it appears that there is wide variation in service quality. Have not seen this much disparity in comments between Ravindu and Nandi ![]() |
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How much extra will it cost for Mahindra to come up with an equally reliable version of the Scorpio or XUV, where the quality of the components in the car will ensure they last for the lifetime of the car? Will they need to reengineer each of the component? Can they offer an equally durable and trouble free car at a lower price? And finally, if they can, why are they not doing it? I have driven cars extensively in the UK. The same manufacturers, the same cars are there as well. But they are built to last. They are much more robust than their similar offsprings you would find in India. I am aware Mahindra exports to some of the European countries too, and would be surprised if they quality of the cars they send there are not several notches above what they produce for the Indian markets. Till such time as there are alternatives in India, whether in cars or in other merchandise/products, the most reliable manufacturer will continue laughing their way to the bank! Last edited by rajivrt : 8th October 2016 at 23:25. Reason: To correct formatting of the Quote/Endquote | |||||
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() My Fortuner is 6 years old now (close to 120K km, going strong, fingers crossed). If I had to buy another vehicle, it would be the new 4x4 Fortuner. I would sacrifice a little extra power, torque, bling and interior comfort for things that matter to me. Reliability, toughness, total cost of ownership, the ability to do 1000+ km drives everyday, do offroading, and then come back and do office duty without any whimper. I am sure that the new Ford Endeavour and the Pajero Sport are as good, but I have no reason to switch. The Fortuner is my primary vehicle, if I had 3-4 vehicles, I could have afforded to experiment. Last edited by nilanjanray : 8th October 2016 at 23:42. |
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