[vb-saan]

Originally Posted by Highh5

I think Quoted one is Turning diameter. If we convert in radius then it would come around 6.10 meter which is fine.

6.1m turning radius is huge IMO; u-turns on Indian roads will be really a chore. I was thinking that the Tiguan and the Compass turning radius was pretty huge with 5.75m and 5.65m respectively, but this is on another level

[sj_koova]

Saw a Kodiaq in Paris today. It has far better road presence than Tiguan. Unlike Tiguan, Kodiaq seems to have proportional dimensions and SUV stance from front.

Somehow I feel this product will find buyers in India. I would have if I did not rush and take the plunge for Tiguan in August due to all the GST mess up.

[lancer_rit]

Originally Posted by GTO

Yeah man, that is huge! I can't think of a single car that has a 6+ meter turning radius, other than the old Safari & a truck (Isuzu V-Cross).

Yeah, it's really big. IIRC, Audi A6 has a TD of 12m though, so seems to run in the family?

The engine tune should also keep in mind the price, size & weight of car. Today, an Innova comes with 172 BHP . A 20 lakh rupee van having more power & torque than a 35 lakh rupee premium SUV?

Valid point there though the Innova has itself got to an over inflated top variant price of 28+ lakhs OTR Bangalore - pre GST cess hike
:-(

[n.devdath]

Originally Posted by TusharK

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Something isn't right in the ground clearance section. How can a car that is 188mm above ground unladen go down by 48mm with one person sitting in it?

Or does "solo condition" mean something else?

[ece2k2]

Originally Posted by Highh5

I think Quoted one is Turning diameter. If we convert in radius then it would come around 6.10 meter which is fine.

Normally cars with a turning dia of less than 11m are the number ones that we can conveniently drive on narrow roads. To give you a comparison, Octavia has a turning dia of 10.4m which is great considering its dimensions and works well on our roads.

[lancer_rit]

Originally Posted by n.devdath

Something isn't right in the ground clearance section. How can a car that is 188mm above ground unladen go down by 48mm with one person sitting in it?

Or does "solo condition" mean something else?

I am guessing 188mm is solo ( I.e. With driver and fuel?) while 140mm is laden weight, some kind of typo in the data?

[4x4addict]

Originally Posted by Aniket6

Turning diameter is 12.2m which is way higher than Endy or Fortuner!!
Why??

I guess with most European spec cars, this is not a big deal as roads are designed for vehicles to take U-Turns comfortably. But in India it is a whole different story.

Originally Posted by Highh5

I think Quoted one is Turning diameter. If we convert in radius then it would come around 6.10 meter which is fine.

@highh5 Regardless of radius/diameter, this is way higher than similar sized vehicles in the Indian market. My old Ford Endeavour had a 6 Meter Radius/12 Meter diameter and I can tell you that it was a royal pain in Indian Cities.

Originally Posted by n.devdath

Or does "solo condition" mean something else?

"Solo Condition" as per ARAI rules means one Sumo Wrestler on board .

[srivatsahg]

Has everything to go for.Stunning Design,Impressive indicated mileage. But 12.2m for a Turning diameter (more than Force Tempo Traveler), definitely will be a pain to drive in cities like Bangalore.

[CarguyNish]

There is something wrong in the Spec Sheet that has been leaked above.

The actual turning circle is 11.6 m which is acceptable for a car of this size & wheelbase.

Also, the nearest car to its size in Skoda, the Superb has a Turning Circle of 10.8 m. Though it has much bigger wheelbase and is lengthier as well.

While the Dimensions mentioned above are identical to the UK Spec Version, the additional 10mm height could be due to India Specific "Rough Road Package".

Here are the Dimensions of Kodiaq (UK).

[r0nit7]

Originally Posted by GTO

340 Nm torque (especially) and ~148 BHP should be just about enough, but won't be anything special. Sucks. Owners who have a full load of 7 onboard will wish for more power.

Exactly! The power/torque figures are even lesser than our very own homegrown half priced 7 Seater SUV/MUV/Crossover Hexa (156ps/400nm). These things make me admire our Hexa even more & more.
Although, I do admit the Kodiaq would have a German Physique & would be much more fitter in comparison to our Desi Pehelwan like built Hexa

[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by r0nit7

Exactly! The power/torque figures are even lesser than our very own homegrown half priced 7 Seater SUV/MUV/Crossover Hexa (156ps/400nm). These things make me admire our Hexa even more & more.
Although, I do admit the Kodiaq would have a German Physique & would be much more fitter in comparison to our Desi Pehelwan like built Hexa

Just a point to note on engine specs of VW cars. They are pretty much spot on in terms of accuracy and VW publishes engine specs close to the wheel.

For example when they say 138 BHP, if you put the Tiguan on the dyno you will get 138 BHP give or take 5 BHP. This has always been the case with VW be it Polo, Laura, Jetta. Their numbers are true and account for transmission losses. It should be no different for the Tiguan.

In comparison other manufacturers mention engine power at crank so if it is 140 BHP the actual BHP at the wheels could be 20-30% lower in some cars.

for example my Corolla is 125 BHP on paper but on the dyno it showed 93 BHP. Similarly a Rapid rated at 105 PS was 102 BHP iirc.

[lancer_rit]

Originally Posted by CarguyNish

There is something wrong in the Spec Sheet that has been leaked above.

The actual turning circle is 11.6 m which is acceptable for a car of this size & wheelbase.

Also, the nearest car to its size in Skoda, the Superb has a Turning Circle of 10.8 m. Though it has much bigger wheelbase and is lengthier as well.

Small correction. Superb TD IS 11.1m not 10.8m

[r0nit7]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

Just a point to note on engine specs of VW cars. They are pretty much spot on in terms of accuracy and VW publishes engine specs close to the wheel.

Or is it some software program that could detect test scenarios, changing the performance accordingly to improve results ala Dieselgate

In comparison other manufacturers mention engine power at crank so if it is 140 BHP the actual BHP at the wheels could be 20-30% lower in some cars.

This is even worse than Dieselgate - depriving the consumers & the bhpians of their BHPs
On a serious note & OT, if what you are saying is right even for brand new vehicles - are the manufacturers technically correct in their ratings or is there some foul play at work?

[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by r0nit7

Or is it some software program that could detect test scenarios, changing the performance accordingly to improve results ala Dieselgate

I doubt that this was the case. The Tiguan acceleration figures from international reports is pretty respectable for the 138 BHP. It's no slouch and even our review says performance is not bad on the highway.

This is even worse than Dieselgate - depriving the consumers & the bhpians of their BHPs
On a serious note & OT, if what you are saying is right even for brand new vehicles - are the manufacturers technically correct in their ratings or is there some foul play at work?

OT my Altis wasn't even a year old and had like 9000kms on it when put on the Dyno.

Thread: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modif...ty-tour-2.html (Open House at *Red Rooster (Bangalore)*. Free dyno run, demo drives and facility tour)

[TejasKinger]

Looks like the media drives for the Kodiaq have started. Any BHP-ians at the drive?
https://twitter.com/Renuks/status/912556870421934080