[roushan84]

Originally Posted by CarguyNish

Pre Facelift Asta didn't have ABS & Airbags. Manual was offered with Option Pack, but Auto didn't.

In fact, ever since the Grand i10 was launched, the Automatic versions didn't have Safety Features.

So basically, you can either get convenience or safety! Than it an interesting way to position variants.

Has anyone check on the kind of response this facelift has got? I didn't see any news article or posts about the no. of booking or waiting period.

[blackasta]

Originally Posted by CarguyNish

Pre Facelift Asta didn't have ABS & Airbags. Manual was offered with Option Pack, but Auto didn't.

In fact, ever since the Grand i10 was launched, the Automatic versions didn't have Safety Features.

Originally Posted by roushan84

So basically, you can either get convenience or safety! Than it an interesting way to position variants.

- was not the case with old i10 (till 2009) - infact when I bought my car, i10 auto used to come in magna, sportz and asta - all 3 variants ! Sure it wasn't laden with gizmos (infact my car has manual stick type mirror adjustors), but had the right safety features (magna AT had nothing, sportz AT had rear defogger+wiper, asta AT had abs+airbags+rear defogger+wiper).
The bling happy junta seems not to care for safety, but are all praise for touchscreen here and electricals there !

Originally Posted by roushan84

Has anyone check on the kind of response this facelift has got? I didn't see any news article or posts about the no. of booking or waiting period.

NDTV auto report

http://auto.ndtv.com/reviews/exclusi...from=home-auto

[RavenAvi]

ACI reviews the 2017 Grand i10 facelift.

Excerpt:

On the move, this diesel engine also retains its refined yet responsive character. It still vibrates quite a bit at idle and this vibration can get a bit annoying too, but all this disappears once you put your foot down. Get a few revs up and the three-cylinder smoothens up so nicely that it feels almost petrol-like. Power is delivered in a very linear manner and there’s no noticeable turbo lag to speak of. The additional power and torque also mean that it feels a bit more eager off the line, and press down further – and unlike earlier, where you hit a wall – the Grand i10 now powers on for a bit, with plenty more performance on tap.
The other area where this car is improved is ride and handling. It now takes to the road like a much bigger, more expensive car with commendable sound insulation and good bump absorption. And the little bit of an edge that the earlier car had over sharp bumps, Hyundai seems to have been able to get rid of that too. Even pitching and bobbing on wavy surfaces are well-controlled and the car feels planted and confidence-inspiring at highway speeds.

[Durango Dude]

Originally Posted by blackasta

Don't think an Asta AT was ever sold by Hyundai without ABS / Airbags.

It was my son has one. Bought in Oct 2015. After that they added air bags & abs.

[ptushar]

Seriously. The logic beats me. Why is it thought that a person who plans to buy an AT is a person who is okay to compromise on ABS, Seat height adjuster and a rear wiper? I mean a rear wiper is now an object of desirability to select a variant? So then I can go and proudly announce that "Hey! Did you know? My car has a rear wiper". And the audience (starry eyed, of course) start thinking "Wow! This man has arrived in life".

Why not just provide the Auto as an option on the Asta and let the consumer choose. If he/she does not want then he/she won't buy. But at least you will attract those customers who are willing to pay that extra so that they get the best deal.

Maybe the logic was to somehow keep the top end variant below 7 lakhs. But seriously, I really fail to understand the 'Grand' logic (pun intended) - if any!

[sajo]

I take it as an opportunity for Honda to indulge in a marketing blitz for the Brio. The AT Brio has a cog extra, is equally (if not more) refined and easy to drive, the new interiors are quite acceptable too.
This is a serious omission on Hyundai's part. Atleast 20% of the i10s I see here in Urban Pune are Asta Automatics. Hope they reintroduce it like they did just before the facelift.

[blackasta]

Originally Posted by sajo

I take it as an opportunity for Honda ...

And an opportunity for Ford too.

If I want a competent fully loaded AT car, why won't I buy the Figo 1.5P AT?

Compared to the highest Grand i10 AT variant (Sportz(O)), It's got a (arguably) superior transmission, bigger engine, auto AC, rear wash/wipe, ABS, 2 airbags minimum (plus side+curtain airbags as options), ESP+TCS+HLA, and slightly wider tires too !

Ex Delhi prices are 6.86 vs 7.43 Lakhs for Grand i10 Sportz (O) AT metallic vs Figo 1.5P AT.

The extra features are surely work the 60K difference in price IMO.

Also - with the level of sales Figo has, I believe it would be easy to get some discounts to make the difference even less.

[arunphilip]

Originally Posted by blackasta

If I want a competent fully loaded AT car, why won't I buy the Figo 1.5P AT?

Figo doesn't have a colour touchscreen. To the masses who make up the sales volume, its game over right there.

Humour aside, the feature list of the Grand i10 - from a marketing standpoint - is very impressive, combined with the fact that Ford have curiously omitted some items expected as standard fitment like the parking sensors.

A discerning customer will appreciate the Figo on its merits, but many others will go in for the car that offers more "sexy" features, and the Grand i10 is packed with those.

Originally Posted by ptushar

"Hey! Did you know? My car has a rear wiper". And the audience (starry eyed, of course) start thinking "Wow! This man has arrived in life".

Thanks for making me literally laugh out loud!

[adneeraj]

Yeah so this facelift is just bling overall and a bump in power for the diesel.
After looking at the feature list for the European spec model, I was a bit put off that I got the Grand i10 Auto just a few months before the facelift launch.

But after the specs are out, I laughed it off. No AT in Asta. My main contention was to get an automatic hatch with all the safety features and without the ridiculous wait times quoted by others and this car ticked those boxes. Jazz and Baleno were a bit pricey and so was the Figo. Having a Fiesta already, I wasn't much interested in showing so much loyalty toward Ford.

I'm a proud owner of a rare variant it seems
For almost the same price on road as that of Sports (O) AT, I have ABS, Airbags, rear defogger, wash-wipe and those bling things like a push button start, request button, chrome door handles and auto-folding mirrors etc. The Sports (O) AT gets a defogger but not a wash-wipe.
I feel like the Deewar dialog between AB and Shashi Kapoor - tumhare paas kya hai!

The bigger touch screen is something that I personally see as a distraction and the auto-AC is all that I missed but that's not available on the Sports (O) AT anyway. So no milk spilled... no cry

[PraNeel]

Overdrive has come out with their review of facelifted Grand i10. Surprisingly they point out poor road noise insulation in the cabin. The new engine too is evolutionary rather than being an all new unit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jvwVJMF7o0

[blackasta]

Is tbhp doing a review for the facelifted Grand i10?

[PraNeel]

Autocar India have come up with their review for facelifted Gran i10.
They complain of poor NVH at startup and complement the car for a being a very easy urban runabout.
The new diesel engine brings in better performance too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpe0JxpB-JM

[jaaz]

Went to check out Grand i10 AT for a friend.

Even though I corrected the SE couple of times about the Torque Converter AT, he was hell bent that it's an AMT and was referring to the manual override.

Is there a change in gearbox technology which I'm not aware. Did they change the gearbox from TC to AMT in the face-lift. Whether manual override in AT was available in 2016 models?

[Avinash_R]

Originally Posted by jaaz

Whether manual override in AT was available in 2016 models?

I bought AT Asta in Sep 2016. Manual Override is available.

[RSR]

Originally Posted by jaaz

Is there a change in gearbox technology which I'm not aware. Did they change the gearbox from TC to AMT in the face-lift.

It was just an ill-informed salesman degrading his own product with his ignorance. He needs to be put back into training immediately!

The Grand i10 has always had a proper 4-speed TC gearbox for the automatic variants, and continues to do so. No pseudo-AT in the form of an AMT on the Grand i10, thankfully!

That ill-informed salesman has mistaken the "tip-tronic" function (manual selection) on the Grand i10 AT (where one has + and - gear slots with the M mode) to be a cheap AMT.