[Sankar]

In Europe and UK this comes with three engine and transmission options.
1) 1.8L Hybrid (122BHP) with CVT
2) 1.2L Petrol DI Turbo (115BHP) with MT
3)1.2L Petrol DI Turbo (115BHP) with CVT

In India if they launch it here they will need a Diesel option too and I'm guessing they will use the 1.4L D-4D (with VGT) in the Corolla in a different state of tune. The 1.4L D-4D while not a performer does have buyers for picking up for its reliability and frugal nature. Hope they give an automatic option for Diesel too.

[RoadTrippin]

That's some seriously hideous design. That aside, with the tin box like flaky construction of the Etios and Liva, Toyota has lost a lot of trust as a reliable brand. If they want to compete on mid-price segment, they will need to provide serious vfm including on the safety parameters.

[DicKy]

Finally.

This one has blockbuster written all over it for the Indian market.

I have said it earlier, but didn't imagine they would seriously bring it to India under an year.
This one will bring Toyota volumes it dreamt of with the Etios at much higher profitability.

Just bring it on ASAP and price it at par (dream) or at a premium to the already expensive but hot selling Creta.

Toyota will decontent it for sure, any pricing strategy notwithstanding.
But will be interesting to see the drivetrains that will be offered here.

The 1.2 turbo petrol and AWD in Europe won't come here, nor will the old 2.0 NA engine sold in North America.

The logical offering would be to share the Corolla engines for economies of scale.
2ZR-FE (MT and CVT) and 1ND-TV (MT).

But Toyota had categorically said the CH-R won't have a diesel, unless they specifically engineer it for India.

A golden opportunity for Toyota to democratize 'proper' hybrids would be to launch the 1.8l 2ZR-FXE hybrid in the Indian CH-R. Not only will it be a good launching platform, but it can be manufactured locally and used for the Corolla too and any other non IMV models south of the Camry.

Maybe Toyota is waiting till March to see if GOI is serious about the FAME scheme and whether it would be followed up or continued, and then take a decision.

[asit.kulkarni93]

Originally Posted by RoadTrippin

That's some seriously hideous design. That aside, with the tin box like flaky construction of the Etios and Liva, Toyota has lost a lot of trust as a reliable brand. If they want to compete on mid-price segment, they will need to provide serious vfm including on the safety parameters.

The same tin box flaky construction Etios and Liva get a 4-star safety rating. And talking about safety parameters- dual airbags and ABS+EBD are standard across the range for all Toyota Products in India. Even the cab version of the Etios has them. Let's not judge a product or brand by mere specifications or perceptions as tests have proved things otherwise.

[sumeethaldankar]

I hope they retain the quality of interiors as shown in the images here and not undercut the Indian buyers with the the fit and finish of its budget cars sold here. Till sometime ago the interior of the mighty Fortuner was nothing to write about. I hope they dont repeat the same with this one.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by asit.kulkarni93

as tests have proved things otherwise.

Doesn't matter, does it? Because it feels bad to use, that people tend to reject it irrespective (or ignorant) of the safety ratings. Personally speaking - If I have a choice between two cars that have proven safety ratings, I would never pick the one which feels bad to use on a daily basis and picks up dents even if a ball hits the car.

Safety is one thing. Feel good factor is totally another!

That said, if Toyota can strike a balance like they do with the cars like Corolla etc, then I'm all for it.

[asit.kulkarni93]

This design surely looks quirky to me. Never been a fan of curves on SUV's. If this can go against the ecosport then nothing like it. Also it's high time Toyota plans the RAV4 diesel/ petrol hybrid for the Indian market.

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Doesn't matter, does it? Because it feels bad to use, that people tend to reject it irrespective (or ignorant) of the safety ratings. Personally speaking - If I have a choice between two cars that have proven safety ratings, I would never pick the one which feels bad to use on a daily basis and picks up dents even if a ball hits the car.



Safety is one thing. Feel good factor is totally another!



That said, if Toyota can strike a balance like they do with the cars like Corolla etc, then I'm all for it.

The point was about safety. Let's keep it at that. There are many cars which don't sell inspite of being safe and having the feel good factor like the new Ford Figo. Anyway let's not go off-topic on this thread. There are other threads to discuss the Etios.

[Carma2017]

Let us just hope Toyota has some interest in bringing sub-10 lac cars to India. Till date they have shown zero interest in doing so since Etios debacle. And based on informal chats with them, they have no interest in low margin segment. They would rather wait and watch till the market matures to the quality and level of cars they make. Till then, their operations in India are kept more than healthy by Fortuner and Innova.

The intentions of Toyota can easily be read by the investments they are making in India compared to others. Their network growth rate, New Factory investment rate, Land acquisition rate is the Lowest among existing OEMs in India. Sorry for being off topic.

But after having dealt with Toyota Japan for last couple of years, their attitude towards India is startling to see. Their thinking about our government is another thread altogether.

[volkman10]

The C- HR TVC,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_53hCyR8RAo

[ashwin489]

That ad was underwhelming to say the least. I hope Toyota's plans for India are at least a bit more inspiring than that commercial.

Originally Posted by volkman10

The C- HR TVC,

[volkman10]

Advertisement of C-HR- Crossover the World,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBocyBZrmwk

[volkman10]

Toyota's quirky CUV arrives in showrooms in Australia. Starting at a price of ~ 13.8 lakhs to a range topping at 17.9 lakhs. Limits to 6000 units a year as the backlog in booking in Japan exceeds the estimates set by Toyota.

To rival Mazda CX-3 and Suzuki Vitara.




LINK

[Nilesh5417]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Toyota's quirky CUV arrives in showrooms in Australia. Starting at a price of ~ 13.8 lakhs to a range topping at 17.9 lakhs. Limits to 6000 units a year as the backlog in booking in Japan exceeds the estimates set by Toyota.

To rival Mazda CX-3 and Suzuki Vitara.

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With none of the mentioned competitors being anywhere close to being considered for India, what likelyhood is there to see this amazingly futuristic looking product from Toyota here? I seriously doubt Toyota can price it well unless they water it down and make some made-in-india vehicle out of it. Sad that Toyota has globaly so many competent products but finds it too expensive to manufacture them here at the same level of quality with Indian pricing. Is our manufacturing ecosystem that unreliable still?

[ashlil]

Originally Posted by Nilesh5417

...... I seriously doubt Toyota can price it well unless they water it down and make some made-in-india vehicle out of it......

Toyota will definitely water it down AND price is exorbitantly. The same model in US will have 9 air-bags and enough safety acronyms to fill an A4 sheet, while in India they will consider (that is, if they feel kind-hearted) putting 2 air-bags and ABS. Then they will multiply the american cost by a factor of 2 and sell it in India. And they will continue to do so till we, the customers, continue to sing praises about their "international models with bulletproof reliability and 4 star safety rating" and pay through our noses for premium Toyota brand.

[volkman10]

Toyota's C-HR first drive- lots of positives as a city car but has a few design flaws and the New Engine and CVT seems a let down.

Crash test results coming up shortly!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeyu8TCQMXo