[vellatechie]

Originally Posted by shiva75

The central console has buttons and no cup holders. Atleast this is what I can see in the pictures posted. I do like what I see contrary to some other views on this forum but then it’s a personal point of view. Any news of the formal launch date for the thar?

For me personally cup holders are a wasted space.. I don't keep unfinished drinks in my car and don't really prefer that others eat/drink in the car either. So I am okay if there aren't any.

[nishkamm]

A regular THAR ( not the new generation) is also see on test with a BS6 engine.

Source: Rushlane

https://www.rushlane.com/mahindra-th...-12323439.html

[SpeedyS]

Originally Posted by shiva75

The central console has buttons and no cup holders. Atleast this is what I can see in the pictures posted. I do like what I see contrary to some other views on this forum but then it’s a personal point of view. Any news of the formal launch date for the thar?

I think there are cup-holders beneath the air-con controls and in front of the gear levers.

[vinair]

Not sure what size the tyres are but sure it looks just too huge!

On a different note, going with the strong resemblance to the Jeep Wrangler, could Mahindra face some strong resistance from the FCA? A possible legal fight?

[PrasunBannerjee]

Originally Posted by vellatechie

So more photos of Thar 2020 has leaked and were posted

I like the squat stance of this Thar. From the looks of it this is the top end maybe, with steering mounted controls with wiring (for aftermarket stereo?) and a full size digital MID on the console.

Originally Posted by vinair

On a different note, going with the strong resemblance to the Jeep Wrangler, could Mahindra face some strong resistance from the FCA? A possible legal fight?

I like the resemblance personally. The legal fight if at all might go in favour of Mahindra itself, something like they had with Roxor, which is different segment. Almost no one will ever say, I am cancelling my booking of the wrangler and going ahead with Thar and vice versa. Icing on the cake will be, one is diesel only, other is petrol only. One can't say, wrangler's diesel engine is powerful than Thar's. They can't be compared anyway in the first place, which Mahindra will use to its advantage.

[Steppenwolf1978]

New renders appeared on Rushlane.

In my opinion the new Thar is a looker

[The King]

Can anyone confirm about the Low End Grunt within 1000-1800 RPM range in 2020 Thar Engine, if this version also lacked in low-end grunt like the present generation model then it means Mahindra is not serious enough and all they is going after bling and highway cruiser as vehicle.

[4x4addict]

Originally Posted by Steppenwolf1978

New renders appeared on Rushlane.
In my opinion the new Thar is a looker

The new rendering looks good, except for the silly old school rubber beading around the glass. If you notice the spy pics of the 2020 Thar, there is no rubber beading. It is a stuck glass.

Originally Posted by The King

Can anyone confirm about the Low End Grunt within 1000-1800 RPM range in 2020 Thar Engine

By the way the current Thar makes Torque only from 1700 to 1800 rpm. There is no reason why a newer generation engine should be any less efficient.

[The King]

Originally Posted by 4x4addict

By the way the current Thar makes Torque only from 1700 to 1800 rpm. There is no reason why a newer generation engine should be any less efficient.

Current generation Thar has torque band from 1800 to 2500 RPM. Below 1800 , it's a dead cow. You won't be able to march the vehicle between midway on a steep incline in first gear without touching the accelerator. To march it you need bit of clutch slippage and acceleration beyond 1800 RPM to make it moving.

Whereas with Bolero/Camper fitted with MDI3200TC engine , you just need to lift the clutch normally and it surges ahead under same scenario.

The rumoured 1.9L CRDe turbodiesel engine in 2020 Thar has 320NM, but how much it is available from idling till 1800 RPM needs to be experienced.

Being promoted as an off-road vehicle, it must have low end grunt, otherwise no point in another propaganda.

[wrongturn]

Originally Posted by vellatechie

So more photos of Thar 2020 has leaked and were posted by zigwheels on Sep 6, 2019

Those square wheel arches at the front and round wheel arches at the rear are making it look kind of disproportionate. I hope it's just the camouflage padding and the real one will not be produced with such elementary design flaws.

[Thilak29]

Originally Posted by wrongturn

Those square wheel arches at the front and round wheel arches at the rear are making it look kind of disproportionate. I hope it's just the camouflage padding and the real one will not be produced with such elementary design flaws.

Design flaw? The current version of Thar did have the same squircle (not square) wheel arches on the front. I personally don't find this as design flaw as it functionally doesn't create any issue, I find it more of optical illusion that they look disproportionate, but of course, OCD/ symmetry obsessive eyes may find it annoying.

Interestingly Jeep Compass too has squircle arches but on both ends.

[SandyX]

Those who complain about lack of low end grunt in "current Thar" seems to completely forget the Thar DI existed. It had the MDI3200TC motor which had all the juice under 1400rpm. It was a Thar too, and a right one at that. Creature comforts could've been easily built in but folks went the easy way out. And they got exactly what they deserved, the Thar crde. And now both are dead.

Thankfully, some others abroad found DI's true value. If no rightful replacement comes for the Thar DI, jeep is officially gone. The new one is just another softy SUV based on Scorpio.

[The King]

Originally Posted by SandyX

Those who complain about lack of low end grunt in "current Thar" seems to completely forget the Thar DI existed. It had the MDI3200TC motor which had all the juice under 1400rpm. It was a Thar too, and a right one at that. Creature comforts could've been easily built in but folks went the easy way out. And they got exactly what they deserved, the Thar crde. And now both are dead.

Thankfully, some others abroad found DI's true value. If no rightful replacement comes for the Thar DI, jeep is officially gone. The new one is just another softy SUV based on Scorpio.

Consider me one of them, but THAR DI had its own set of problems such as axles with lower strength than CRDE.[based on this forum reviews] Regarding creature comforts, yes I would always love them at basic level atleast. Mahindra should have given a jeep loaded with basic creature comforts along with choice of engine for a win-win situation.

When they can give ROXOR with M2DICR, they should have given the same option in CRDE version as well atleast. The 2.5L engine is Dead Cow when it comes to Hills.

PS: C'mon Mahindra launch a 4WD version of Bolero Camper ZX with option for private registration and you will have me among first of the buyers.

[sachinwadhwani]

Originally Posted by Steppenwolf1978

New renders appeared on Rushlane.

In my opinion the new Thar is a looker

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WOW!!!! If it does turn out close to these images then I can't wait to get my hands on one.

[shashanka]

Originally Posted by The King

Current generation Thar has torque band from 1800 to 2500 RPM. Below 1800 , it's a dead cow. You won't be able to march the vehicle between midway on a steep incline in first gear without touching the accelerator. To march it you need bit of clutch slippage and acceleration beyond 1800 RPM to make it moving.

Whereas with Bolero/Camper fitted with MDI3200TC engine , you just need to lift the clutch normally and it surges ahead under same scenario.

The rumoured 1.9L CRDe turbodiesel engine in 2020 Thar has 320NM, but how much it is available from idling till 1800 RPM needs to be experienced.

Being promoted as an off-road vehicle, it must have low end grunt, otherwise no point in another propaganda.

I think 1800-2500 with a reasonably flat torque curve is adequate for most needs, if they are providing the low-ratio transfer case with the 4WD option. That provides wall-climbing grunt for most situations. My 2004 Scorpio with the 2.6 non-crde engine had more-or less similar rpm characteristics (1800-2500). And after tramping around Uttaranchal for over 14 years, it never us down from the grunt point of view.

To be honest this whole business with low-end grunt & rpm characteristics is getting a bit long in the tooth!