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Originally Posted by vredesbyrd I disagree. Why can't we Indians enjoy fair pricing for a moment? As it is vehicles are overpriced here. |
Point well taken and I also agree to each bit with you. I would also go on to say that along with vehicles,
fuels are also overpriced in our country! And which, when the crude oil price goes up, we will be passed on the hike, but when the crude oil price goes down, we won't get that relief!
Now, if you look back at my earlier post, I was saying, realistically, since the present Thar itself retails at 10L (which is one level smaller than the new-gen Thar with a next-gen BS6 engine, and just a raw UV, not an SUV), I doubt if Mahindra will launch the new Thar starting under 12L, although I would love to have the base new-gen Thar for 10-11L.
NOTE: This is the present BS4 THAR price list, from the www.mahindrathar.com site.
And if they could magically manage to work out the costing and launch the base variant under 10L, I think the best beneficiary would be the company themselves, due to much higher probable sales volumes.
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Originally Posted by balenoed_ Usually M&M is reasonable with pricing (is what people say). And as per a conversation that I had with a sales manager at a nearby showroom, on whether the new Thar would touch 18-20L, he said very unlikely. He is optimistic that it wouldn't jump up way too high like what we speculate. |
I also thought so, till they launched the XUV300 last year when I thought they should have priced the base variants for at least a lakh less.
Felt exactly like how Hyundai launched the Accent CRDi in 1999, when their MD was asked why the car is priced so high, he claimed, they have launched the Common-rail technology first in the country (for the common man), why can't they charge a premium? (For the record, Mercedes Benz had launched their first Common-rail, CDI engined car in the country almost a year before Hyundai, but they don't fall under the common man's category, so not many people took notice.)
Similarly, the XUV300 is also ahead of its competition both in terms of technology and performance, but, since we Indians are too obsessed with foreign goods, when Korean Hyundai did that, we were willing to pay, but when our own Mahindra tries that, we are shy to pay what is worth to them!
Thanks to our Indian mindset (that includes me too - I also bought a Hyundai Verna, although pre-owned), Hyundai was lucky to get themselves established in our country, while even with excellent products from our own Tata & Mahindra, they are struggling.
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Originally Posted by GT145 In my opinion 18-20L on-road for Thar doesn't make any sense at all. On-road prices for previous gen was coming near to 11.5L for top variant, so even with an auto box ideally it should be less than 16L on-road to be a value for money package. |
I wish they launch the base versions at 11-12L and the top-end at 15-16L. (Right, now I also feel my previous estimation of 18L for the top-end looks unnecessarily high). The base version could cater to those who would be considering it as a second/recreational vehicle, whereas those who want it as their primary vehicle can buy the top-end, instead of a Duster/Creta/Seltos.
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Originally Posted by daywiz While its almost guaranteed Thar is going to offer a petrol variant, supposedly the mStallion 2.0L, I still think Mahindra won't offer the max output (190hp) that engine is capable of. It's more likely to be detuned to around 150-160hp.
Correct me if I am wrong, but is there any new buzz on a NEW 2.0L diesel? If not, I am pretty sure, the Thar will pick up the 2.2 mHawk engine (BS6) and configuration pretty similar to the present-gen Scorpio (120-130hp).
Another point to note, with all this size gain, how much heavier is the Thar going to get? |
Very true. I also feel the mStallion 2.0lit. would be tuned down in the Thar, so that they could keep the max. rated 2.0lit for their flagship model, which could be the upcoming new-gen XUV500.
Yes, the next-gen mHawk 2.2lit. from the new-gen Scorpio/XUV500, again slightly detuned, looks like the Diesel option.
I found the present-gen BS4 Diesel Thar to be 1750kg, from the net. From there I considered a 100kg hike for the BS6 Petrol Thar (1850kg) and another 50kg higher for the BS6 Diesel Thar (1900kg). Any weight estimation experts here, please comment/correct.
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Originally Posted by DebarshiSharma If I am not wrong, only the top-end hardtop version of the upcoming Mahindra Thar is expected to come with a front-facing seat. |
Please, Mahindra, don’t do that. Please don’t give the next-gen Thar a people-mover image. There should be only front-facing seats (if space permits, captain seats at the rear too), for this vehicle to have only a lifestyle vehicle image. (Hope Mahindra sees this!)