[selfdrive]

Originally Posted by bijubalan

Probably they would do a last moment optimization of pricing based on the demand generated as suggested by the bookings.
Hope it turns out good for us

Let us all avoid bookings for the first few months then
Edit: Did we do that when the new Fiesta was launched?

Originally Posted by bijubalan

Are the other additions like touch screen etc so costly compared to airbags and associated systems? Anyways, not a good idea to bring in creature comfort features at the expense of safety features

I think Ford should offer 2 versions. A safety version with 6 airbags, etc and a 'creature' version without airbags but with a fancy touchscreen etc. I would opt for the version which offers safety features that can be installed by the manufacturer. Other bells and whistles can be installed aftermarket anyway. In fact they should also stop offering alloy, mats, speakers etc. Just offer a model which would be top 'specced' in terms of safety and is bare bones otherwise. The owners can then pick and choose from the aftermarket. It would also help them focus on specific spares in terms of the supply chain management.

Originally Posted by abhishek46

I did not find any specific literature on the web to suggest that a DCT is always more expensive than a Torque converter unit.
Cost could depend on the design of components, quality, and materials used.

Is it also a change from a 4 cylinder engine to a 3 cylinder one?

[bijubalan]

Originally Posted by drift2race

Is it also a change from a 4 cylinder engine to a 3 cylinder one?

Yes it is a change from 4 cylinder to 3 cylinder dragon series even though displacement remains same

[BoneCollector]

Originally Posted by selfdrive

Is it also a change from a 4 cylinder engine to a 3 cylinder one?

Originally Posted by bijubalan

Yes it is a change from 4 cylinder to 3 cylinder dragon series even though displacement remains same

The engine is new one, details can be read here. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ol-engine.html

The power has gone up to 121bhp and 150Nm torque.

[drift2race]

Originally Posted by abhishek46

I did not find any specific literature on the web to suggest that a DCT is always more expensive than a Torque converter unit.
Cost could depend on the design of components, quality, and materials used.

I can't quote exactly but Dual Clutch automatics are costly compared to torque converter & apparently less reliable too . Here's the best i could find about transmission types : https://www.autocarindia.com/auto-fe...tchback-392843

[Vish_Janu]

Tonight's Autocar show on ET Now at 2230 hours will showcase Ecosport's first drive. If you guys want to watch that in goodness of HD, wait till tomorrow evening 1930 hours, on Times Now HD.

Also, Autocar's first drive review will be uploaded on their website by Monday, if you don't want to purchase the issue now.

On a side note: I guess Ford charges extra for its spare wheel cover at the back, right? Is it wise for me to order that online right now from Alibaba?

[ani_meher]

I checked with Ford Pune today. No special discount on current stock of ecosport AT. hardly 11k cash + 10k accessories.

[blurust]

Originally Posted by Vish_Janu

Tonight's Autocar show on ET Now at 2230 hours will showcase Ecosport's first drive.

Just finished looking at the channel, it said 7.70 lacs to 10.10 lacs ex showroom Delhi. They didnt mention it explicitly but the text on the screen did. I'm excited

[DasJager]

Originally Posted by Vish_Janu

Tonight's Autocar show on ET Now at 2230 hours will showcase Ecosport's first drive.

Watched it just now while traveling (not driving), on my mobile screen!!

I somehow never really liked the way Autocar reviews cars. Now don't get me wrong, they get to the point nice and straight, but there is just that emotion missing which any bhpian can relate to. Maybe I am just spoilt by better options.

Rant aside, few points as per the review:

- The dragon 1.5 L is turning out to be quite a nice package.
- I'm personally a little disappointed that Ford still doesn't provide rear AC vents.
- The rear seat still has less legroom compared to the competition, the upside is that the under thigh support is very good.
- Front seats are wider and would accommodate people with bigger frame better now.
- The Titanium version doesn't come with in-built navigation support (comes with Apply Car Play & Android Auto instead). Can anyone confirm if it is the same in Titanium + also?
- Ride quality is better now while retaining the driving dynamics of the previous Ecosport.

Ecosport facelift is looking really promising and I am eagerly looking forward to a TDCi Titanium + review.

[Chetan_Rao]

Originally Posted by DasJager

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- The Titanium version doesn't come with in-built navigation support (comes with Apply Car Play & Android Auto instead).....

Static maps can't compete with web-based services (GMaps, Here, Waze etc.), esp. in a country like ours with poor update support and constantly changing routes. As long as smartphone support is efficient, it should meet most customer's navigation needs.

Looking forward to the T-BHP review and pricing information. Mid-variant petrol on my radar

[damager21]

Originally Posted by DasJager

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- I'm personally a little disappointed that Ford still doesn't provide rear AC vents.

It's good that they have not offered rear AC vents. Space in the rear in terms of legroom and width is already a squeeze, rear AC vents would have made it even more uncomfortable for rear passengers. AC in Ecosport is effective to cool the cabin very quickly so I don't think this is a must.


In another news, dealer of KS Ford, Rajasthan was en route to Goa for the dealer meet. He has confirmed that there will be 2 AT variants this time.

Hopefully Titanium and Titanium+ . Even if its Trend+ and Titanium+ it would be great as there is huge opportunity to fill the gap and need which exists for a fully loaded AT. There are only 2 cars between 10 to 14 lacs bracket which currently offer fully loaded AT with 6 airbags - Honda City and Hyundai Verna.

10.75lacs for Titanium+ AT will be a steal as the next fully loaded competitor would be Verna SX(O) available for 12.5lacs followed by City ZX available for 13.85lacs.

Also hoping for a customization pack available for the Titanium+ offering the sunroof option

[bhpfaninblr]

Originally Posted by damager21

There are only 2 cars between 10 to 14 lacs bracket which currently offer fully loaded AT with 6 airbags - Honda City and Hyundai Verna.

10.75lacs for Titanium+ AT will be a steal as the next fully loaded competitor would be Verna SX(O) available for 12.5lacs followed by City ZX available for 13.85lacs.

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The Verna SX(O) is manual. The Verna SX+ is AT. It misses out on some features of the SX(O).
Also the ex-showroom price of the Verna SX(O) diesel is 12,68,990 and the SX+ AT in diesel guise will be more than that

[blurust]

Originally Posted by bhpfaninblr

The Verna SX(O) is manual. The Verna SX+ is AT. It misses out on some features of the SX(O).
Also the ex-showroom price of the Verna SX(O) diesel is 12,68,990 and the SX+ AT in diesel guise will be more than that

Verna Petrol automatic does have a fully loaded sx(o) variant, with six airbags and the works.

[bhpfaninblr]

Originally Posted by blurust

Verna Petrol automatic does have a fully loaded sx(o) variant, with six airbags and the works.

Agree. I was referring to the diesel version. The petrol version comes in the SX(O) trim

[manish_symc]

Ford site has been updated more. Now it shows new Ecosport with other cars offered in India from Ford.

Looks like Titanium + Automatic is confirmed based on one of the pic displayed on the page ( Your Safety, Our Priority ).

[damager21]

KS Ford dealer, Rajasthan has confirmed that AT will be launched in Titanium+ variant