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Originally Posted by AkMar A few days ago, dad sent me photos saying that a part of rear wheel well cladding is missing on both sides in his new WR-V S iVTEC. |
Am I surprised? No no no! Not at all! There are similar bodily differences with various trims in Jazz as well. For instance, Jazz VX comes equipped with fender covers and mud guards. A step down, mud guards go missing in Jazz V. A step further down, both mud guards & fender covers go missing in Jazz SV. Thankfully, fenders do not go missing going down a step further.
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Originally Posted by AkMar I wonder when will Honda learn? Doesn't the failures of Mobilio, new Brio teach them anything at all? |
I do not think, Honda is willing to learn in any near future. Sharing below is the response from Honda Cars India Limited to me in response to rusted tie rods & knuckle. It is now a standard in all Jazz & City, not sure about the rest. Notice the key word
"aesthetic". In response to me being incorrectly billed by 2 different HASS, they have washed away their hands by saying
"clerical error". I only know how I had to make HASS understand who left no stone unturned to take me for a ride.
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Dear Sir,
With reference to your concerns we would like to submit as follows:
# Related rusting on tie rod:
The rusting observed in your vehicle during the inspection has been found to be superficial in nature and it has no affect whatsoever on the performance of the car over time. You would acknowledge that all parts fitted to the car (specially the ones with no aesthetic value) may develop superficial rust on the exposed area.We assure you of the performance and quality of the vehicle and request you to not keep any apprehension on the same.
# Related engine oil amount:
We understand that our dealership have already confirmed you to refund you the excess amount charged for engine oil. We have taken necessary counter measures to avoid recurrence of the similar concern.The same was a clerical error and taken up with respective person in charge.
For any further assistance please do write again.
Kind regards,
XYZ XYZ
Customer Relations
Honda Cars India Ltd.
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Originally Posted by libranof1987 I own one of those and it is ridiculous. |
I own a 2008 Honda City ZX Exi(base variant). No signs of cost cutting anywhere except the OEM tyres which were MRF. Rest, it has all the claddings, no exposed parts. Just perfect!
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Originally Posted by narayans80 Honda's learnt all sorts of wrong lessons in cost cutting and did a very bad job at it. Their Brio, Amaze and Mobilio are perfect examples of blatant cost cutting. |
The thing is, they aren't learning from their mistakes and are bent upon repeating them time and again.
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Originally Posted by narayans80 This is a stark contrast to the image the brand had in India a decade back. A close friend of mine still owns a decade old Accord in US with 185K miles on clock. |
It takes products, ages, consistency, strategies, perseverance & trust to build a brand. The Honda brand in India is simply going to dogs though.
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Originally Posted by PPS Not surprising, in my 2014 Amaze EX there isn't any internal adjustment/joystick for the ORVM's. To adjust the ORVMs, you have to roll the window down, stretch and move the mirror with your hands! |
Honda needs go the either way: Premium or Basic. How much did Honda save here? More than the inconvenience & a bad mouth?
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Originally Posted by Leoshashi Honda has been notorious for this habit, and we have seen missing NVH shield and air intake ducts in lower variants of Hondas. |
May be that's something of aesthetic value to Honda.
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Originally Posted by dark.knight The Japanese have survived on reliability and fuel efficiency long enough.. |
Agree! For someone like me for whom "under the hood" is the most important than anything else, it is the reliability of Honda cars still letting it sail. I hope, Honda atleast maintains this aspect.
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Originally Posted by Chetan_Rao Honda want to reposition themselves as the semi-premium brand they originally were,... |
Semi-premium brand? Yes, today, and if the trend continues, soon a "no premium" brand for sure. With Maruti trying hard to build its premium image with Nexa, Honda may soon get positioned below Maruti.
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Originally Posted by GTO Penny wise, pound foolish. Short-term thinking, not long-term. Sucks to see Honda going down this road. |
I think there's something really wrong with the think tank of Honda India. They are bent upon ruining themselves. My next car won't be a Honda for sure!
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Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom Maybe Honda are trying to rediscover their roots. Whereas the Civic and the Accord became quite classy cars, the original civic was very basic. I think the one I drove was 1st generation, made in 1974: when I had it, it was 13 years old. It was a good little car, with a pokey engine (although the torque-converter auto soaked up a lot of the poke) but finish, fixtures and fittings... very basic. Almost reminiscent of the Mini. Well, OK, the heater was not an optional extra. |
Sir, the times have changed. Its the age when market is flooded with acute competition. More so, forget the features, even there's a steep fall in the quality noticed in Honda cars. Though basic, you remember that '74 Civic for its quality and quality never goes out of style. On the similar lines, even those early '80s Maruti Suzuki(all Japanese) were gem of the cars(basic of course).
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Originally Posted by landcruiser123 It's only us petrolheads who have keen observation abilities to notice these things in our car. |
Correct, masses at large generally go merely with looks and features for the price they pay.
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Originally Posted by landcruiser123 Honda sure doesn't seem to be learning from the failures of the cars built on the Brio platform. |
IMO, the VFM Brio platform should be discontinued and Honda should focus on bringing more of truly international cars to India with all the features and quality built-in to every single nut used in construction(weather visible or not). Its the high time for them to act, or be prepared the GM way.
Thanks!