[damager21]

The exposé of how Renault was trying to deceive Indian's by releasing a misleading Ad now makes me believe that Renault might have just postponed the launch of Captur by a few weeks.

Couple of weeks chatter on Team-BHP and now with other Auto sites like Rushlane and Motorbeam picking up this story, Renault may just wait a bit longer for this storm to subside before launching Captur.

[itwasntme]

He's not giving up so easily!

http://www.cartoq.com/captur-will-be...ndia-says-ceo/

[GTO]

Originally Posted by damager21

other Auto sites like Rushlane and Motorbeam

Originally Posted by itwasntme

He's not giving up so easily!

Cartoq was upfront in saying:

In that sense, the car is not truly a global product despite what the Renault CEO would like us to believe.

What's really disappointing is that the auto rags (mags?) are unified in their silence. Clearly shows how easily things are bought & sold in the automotive media space.

Am sure deals for the Captur being their 'Car of the Year' have already begun spinning.

[Chetan_Rao]

Platform debate aside, the car isn't half as appealing, visually or feature-wise, compared to competition. Took a good look at Bombay airport display during a long layover. XUV and Compass are far better products.

That Renault India believes they can sell a reskinned Duster in a higher segment, and continue to outright lie about it being a global product even after being caught, is worth a

Duster had first mover's advantage, Kwid offered novelty in its segment. Kaptur (the K is intentional) has nothing going for it. A 2-million rupee Duster with a nip & tuck? again!

[vishnurp99]

Originally Posted by Chetan_Rao

Platform debate aside, the car isn't half as appealing, visually or feature-wise, compared to competition. Took a good look at Bombay airport display during a long layover. XUV and Compass are far better products.

That Renault India believes they can sell a reskinned Duster in a higher segment, and continue to outright lie about it being a global product even after being caught, is worth a

Duster had first mover's advantage, Kwid offered novelty in its segment. Kaptur (the K is intentional) has nothing going for it. A 2-million rupee Duster with a nip & tuck? again!

I disagree. It will be a factor of the price. if they can price it at par with Creta, then Captur or Duster ++ or XYZ (I don't really care about the name) will sell handsomely. Note that Compass and XUV500 or even Creta are not in the same segment. Compass is much more expensive and a better vehicle. Compass starts at 16 lakh exshowroom. That's the price of the top version of XUV500 and about a lakh and half more than the top end variant of Creta. if Renault can provide a decently to fully loaded variant for 14 lakhs exshowroom I don't see why it will not sell. As always, I will wait for the full team-bhp review and the price to judge the market worthiness of the product.

[Chetan_Rao]

Originally Posted by vishnurp99

It will be a factor of the price.......

It will be about more than just price in that segment, else the Creta wouldn't sell.

The problem with the Kaptur is Renault tried to position it as something it's not, and continue to do so despite the advertisement fiasco brought to light by T-BHP.

Positioning this vehicle as an enhanced Duster, which retains its USP (ride quality better than even a couple price segments above it) while addressing its shortcomings (interiors, features etc.), combined with a competitive price tag would've done wonders. If a manufacturer can't trust and back their product for what it is and resort to misleading customers, how can one expect the customer to have confidence?

Engines seem to be retained from the Duster, which will be another weak point compared to competition at the expected price. Hyundai, Mahindra and Jeep all have better engines and aren't priced too far away from Kaptur's expected price range.

The market speaks ultimately, no disagreement there.

[vishnurp99]

Just to clarify - I just said that the price is a factor. It's of course more than the price.

Based on the current fully loaded vehicles with high GC available to pick for around 15 lakhs exshowroom, IMHO I don't see a better pick than Captur based on the various reviews in the net and also the initial feedback from the mods in various posts.

Creta is obviously overpriced and it sells because the only competition is the Duster/Terrano which is outdated now. Creta obviously has it's strengths in terms of the engine but ride and handling are strictly average and driver involvement is poor.

[damager21]

The official launch of the longest and widest SUV in its category with No competition, a global winner loaded with features, the SUV with path breaking ground clearance of 210mm - has been pushed to November.

Kudos to TeamBHP and its members for raising the issue and creating awareness amongst common people by large who may not be on TeamBHP but definitely read and value the discussion on this platform as a part of their research process.

Renault clearly on the back foot after this debacle.


Source: Cardekho

[4x4addict]

I actually like the exterior. I feel it is has a cool and funky design. However, to put the same crappy duster/kwid interiors and call it premium is nothing short of stupidity. Now they will put an AMT in and call it automatic as well, I think.

[deehunk]

The boss may not be giving up easily, but take my word his job is at stake this time.

[deehunk]

CarBlogIndia reports that Renault has despatched the vehicles to dealers,

http://www.carblogindia.com/renault-captur-india-price/

[sanjaykk]

But Motorbeam seems to say Captur is delayed:
https://twitter.com/MotorBeam/status/922457697554960384

[shashant]

While travelling via Terminal 3 new delhi, I got a chance to look and sit in Renault captur display car.

• It does have a presence unlike scross with that massive ground clearance and sharp nose
• Interiors are hard plastics but to be honest they dont look that bad like duster.
• Visibility from the driver seat is excellent
• Rear seat space is kind of okay and you would not mind spending time in there
• Sales representative said the top end variant will be under 14 lakh (not too sure about her source though)

Overall a nice crossover if priced between 9-14 Lakh.

[TorqueyTechie]

Below news may or may not relate to this deceiving ad by Renault but it sure would deter them and others in the future if it becomes a reality.

Government is considering bringing in a law to curb false advertisements. Quoting bits from article in TOI

Government will bring in a new law to crack down on misleading advertisements and set up a central authority to fast-track redressal of consumers' grievances, Prime Minister Narendra Modi said on Thursday .
The proposed law, awaiting Cabinet approval, provides for fine up to Rs 50 lakh and up to three years' ban in case of misleading endorsement by celebrities while manufacturers would face fine and jail term for similar offence.

Addressing an international conference on consumer protection, the PM indicated that the government would introduce the law, which has been in the works for more than three years, during the winter session of Parliament.

“Today we are in the process of enacting a new Consumer Protection Act keeping in view business practices and requirements of the country . The proposed act lays great emphasis on consumer empowerment,“ the PM said. “Stringent provisions are proposed against misleading advertisements. A Central Consumer Protection Authority (CCPA) with executive powers will be constituted for quick remedial action,“ he said.

TOI has learnt that CCPA will be the first ever executive authority to take care of consumers' interests. While individual consumer complaints can be taken to the consumer commission, CCPA will have the power to initiate class ac tion against a product or service, if it impacts a group or large section of consumers.

[drmohitg]

Originally Posted by Chetan_Rao

Platform debate aside, the car isn't half as appealing, visually or feature-wise, compared to competition. Took a good look at Bombay airport display during a long layover. XUV and Compass are far better products.

I was waiting for the time when someone will point this out. The car is a dud from the start. That interior design in today's age of large touch screens looks dated. It looked dated on the Sunny/Micra/Scala/Pulse and that round theme looks even more uglier now. Also Duster was launched when their was hardly any other offering in that segment. Things are drastically different now.

Ofcourse it still doesn't mean that they cheat the customer on something so critical.