Ford to launch new Endeavour EDIT: Launched

Monster_BHP · 20th June 2007, 17:02

I test drove the Endavour some 6yrs back when it was launced first, i immediately told the manager that the engine was very under powered and the gear shift had a lot of rattling in it. He said that its tested in the thougest train and its a great combination. I told him clearely that its never going to sell with such bad worth for cash.

What i dont understand is how come a big company like FOrd cant predict what the responce will be with such a bad combination of gear box and engine that even an ordinary guy on the road can find fault with. Couldnt they have not know that the 15lakh mark customer is a intelligent fellow who has driven vehicles that are better than what this guy is offering and he wont be surprised!!

Are they stupid or did they expect nothing better than what they where selling now.

suman · 20th June 2007, 17:06

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Originally Posted by hondadude

Where did you get 115-116 bhp from. According to the specifications on the Ford website, it is 143 PS engine so that translates to 141 BHP.

, you're right, sorry about that, I mixed up the KW-bhp conversion! Yah, this is ONE healthy output, no doubt about that!

Steeroid · 20th June 2007, 17:26

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Originally Posted by suman

, you're right, sorry about that, I mixed up the KW-bhp conversion! Yah, this is ONE healthy output, no doubt about that!

I bet you'd like to see similar figures on your Dicor, wont ya?

PM me.

noviceDriver · 20th June 2007, 17:53

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Originally Posted by vid6639

wow what about the pricing?

edit: just saw starting from 15.52L.

Price List shows 14.72 ex-showroom for the 4 x 2 base version.

alabjarus · 20th June 2007, 18:25

Attached is the pricelist

file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Setting...20,%202007.pdf

Monster_BHP · 20th June 2007, 20:08

The new Endeavour web site..

Ford - Endeavour Microsite

Sahil · 21st June 2007, 01:26

Ford has overcome most of the flaws of the old endeavour-better interiors,engine,transmission,etc
But another bigg flaw in the old endeavour was its suspension, has it been changed in the new one??

sgmuser · 21st June 2007, 05:06

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Originally Posted by alabjarus

Attached is the pricelist

file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Setting...20,%202007.pdf

I afraid, cant access your desktop!

Reg the suspension, it is leaf spring, the spec says! Thats a bit of worry for me. But I have driven Ranger a lot and it felt ok on the ground and not sure about the durability. Still leaf spring a preferred solution in cars/suvs?

jash · 21st June 2007, 06:43

Prices for the major cities...

Cities/Models 4*2 Ltd - 4*2 - 4*4
CHENNAI 1552000 - 1472000 - 1562000
DELHI 1552000 - 1472000 - 1562000
BANGALORE 1552000 - 1472000 - 1562000
MUMBAI 1628726 - 1544681 - 1639230

For other cities check out this link http://www.india.ford.com/servlet/Bl...e=download.pdf

hondadude · 21st June 2007, 07:11

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Originally Posted by sgmuser

Reg the suspension, it is leaf spring, the spec says! Thats a bit of worry for me. But I have driven Ranger a lot and it felt ok on the ground and not sure about the durability. Still leaf spring a preferred solution in cars/suvs?

Nope leaf spring ain't the preferred solution. Ride quality of Endeavour along with low seats (lack of under thigh support) are two major downsides.

lurker · 21st June 2007, 07:46

I have driven the 4 ltr Ford Explorer, but due to the enormous bulk of the Ford SUV platforms, even that felt a bit underpowered with around 210-240 bhp. And here comes a Ford Endeavour with just 143 bhp ... of course improved from the earlier non-existant bhp.

I wonder why Ford can't just plonk in its 4.0 ltr engine in all its Endeavour/Ranger/whatever SUV's and save itself the trouble and ignominy of being called underpowered.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 21st June 2007, 08:48

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Originally Posted by hondadude

Nope leaf spring ain't the preferred solution. Ride quality of Endeavour along with low seats (lack of under thigh support) are two major downsides.

If i remember correctly, ACI said long back in its TD of the thailand endaevour that, although its still leaf springs, the ride quality is better than what we have in the endeavour here.

hondadude · 21st June 2007, 11:16

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

If i remember correctly, ACI said long back in its TD of the thailand endaevour that, although its still leaf springs, the ride quality is better than what we have in the endeavour here.

I remember that as well but I take car mags reviews with a grain of salt. Nothing like testing it on our Indian roads.

BUSA · 21st June 2007, 12:21

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Originally Posted by lurker

I have driven the 4 ltr Ford Explorer, but due to the enormous bulk of the Ford SUV platforms, even that felt a bit underpowered with around 210-240 bhp. And here comes a Ford Endeavour with just 143 bhp ... of course improved from the earlier non-existant bhp.

I wonder why Ford can't just plonk in its 4.0 ltr engine in all its Endeavour/Ranger/whatever SUV's and save itself the trouble and ignominy of being called underpowered.

The price of the car will shoot up like crazy and the FE will shoot down, something which Ford nor its customers want.

suman · 21st June 2007, 12:28

They're pushing it aggressively no doubt - just got a call from my earlier Ford dealer asking me if I wanted a TD & when.

Their full page ad (though the same as their website) in the TOI today looks good

OT: My 1,111th post, magic number what!

20th June 2007, 17:02	#91
Monster_BHP BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: chennai Posts: 190 Thanked: 30 Times View My Garage	I test drove the Endavour some 6yrs back when it was launced first, i immediately told the manager that the engine was very under powered and the gear shift had a lot of rattling in it. He said that its tested in the thougest train and its a great combination. I told him clearely that its never going to sell with such bad worth for cash. What i dont understand is how come a big company like FOrd cant predict what the responce will be with such a bad combination of gear box and engine that even an ordinary guy on the road can find fault with. Couldnt they have not know that the 15lakh mark customer is a intelligent fellow who has driven vehicles that are better than what this guy is offering and he wont be surprised!! Are they stupid or did they expect nothing better than what they where selling now.
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20th June 2007, 18:25	#95
alabjarus BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 210 Thanked: 78 Times	Attached is the pricelist file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Setting...20,%202007.pdf
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20th June 2007, 20:08	#96
Monster_BHP BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: chennai Posts: 190 Thanked: 30 Times View My Garage	The new Endeavour web site.. Ford - Endeavour Microsite
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Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,292 Thanked: 7,607 Times	Ford has overcome most of the flaws of the old endeavour-better interiors,engine,transmission,etc But another bigg flaw in the old endeavour was its suspension, has it been changed in the new one??
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21st June 2007, 06:43	#99
jash Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	Price List Prices for the major cities... *Cities/Models 42 Ltd - 42 - 44** CHENNAI 1552000 - 1472000 - 1562000 DELHI 1552000 - 1472000 - 1562000 BANGALORE 1552000 - 1472000 - 1562000 MUMBAI 1628726 - 1544681 - 1639230 For other cities check out this link http://www.india.ford.com/servlet/Bl...e=download.pdf
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lurker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tura Posts: 1,592 Thanked: 1,423 Times	I have driven the 4 ltr Ford Explorer, but due to the enormous bulk of the Ford SUV platforms, even that felt a bit underpowered with around 210-240 bhp. And here comes a Ford Endeavour with just 143 bhp ... of course improved from the earlier non-existant bhp. I wonder why Ford can't just plonk in its 4.0 ltr engine in all its Endeavour/Ranger/whatever SUV's and save itself the trouble and ignominy of being called underpowered. Last edited by lurker : 21st June 2007 at 07:48.
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21st June 2007, 12:28	#105
suman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 4,589 Thanked: 279 Times View My Garage	They're pushing it aggressively no doubt - just got a call from my earlier Ford dealer asking me if I wanted a TD & when. Their full page ad (though the same as their website) in the TOI today looks good OT: My 1,111th post, magic number what! Last edited by suman : 21st June 2007 at 12:32.
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