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Old 1st September 2019, 23:27   #2491
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Re: The Kia Seltos SUV (SP Concept). EDIT : Launched at Rs. 9.69 lakhs

I found these tyre pressure recommendations from the Kia Seltos Owners manual.
It states a pressure of 35 PSI in all 4 tyres for both 205/65 R16 and the 215/60 R17 configurations.

Unfortunately, I did not check the tyre pressure before I took my test drive. So 50 PSI in the test vehicle is pretty ridiculous as some members mentioned. 15 PSI will make a hell of a difference.

Anyone going for a test drive now, please check the tyre pressure before you take the test drive.
Also share your opinion on the ride quality on this thread after that, we all would want to know.
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There are two white shades. Maybe you can pick up a better suited one.
Clear white (non-metallic) is only in HTE and HTK variants. Glacier pearl white (metallic) is for all other variants.

Refer SELTOS Body Colour options.pdf
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I found this on twitter. This is a sale invoice of Seltos. Apart from 28% GST (Cgst 14% + Sgst 14%), the govt also takes CESS 17%. On top of it, you are charged TCS 1% and Life Tax 14%. So, you're paying around Rs 5 lakhs in taxes for a 16 lakh car. Brilliant!


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I've tried multiple times to reach out to Kia via social media and their customer care helpline and have not gotten any revert. Been doing this exercise for over a month now and had booked even before the pre booking period started.

It seems like the dealers and company have their head up their rears and don't care about you once you've made a booking. I've not seen any company have the audacity to just ask "Are you making a booking" without telling me ETA or even seeing/driving the product before. This high handedness with customers who are spending 20 lakhs in your showroom will bite them back in the long run once the craziness dies down.

Have cancelled one of my bookings for GTX+ DCT. I'm worried about the milage in the DCT varient and overall ownership experience of the brand. Will try and reach out to the Jeep dealer and see if they are offering any deals and might even cancel the second booking.
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Re: The Kia Seltos SUV (SP Concept). EDIT : Launched at Rs. 9.69 lakhs

Visited the Trivandrum showroom of Kia. They had one display vehicle (GTX+ manual) in addition to the test drive vehicle on the day (vehicles ready for delivery were seen later). The vehicle is very attractive from the front and the gizmos are really inviting.



On a casual walk around and inside view, it was felt that the bonnet length has influenced the interior space. The boot space, rear leg room and under thigh support were not at all encouraging. I am 6ft tall. It was felt that Baleno, though in a different segment altogether, had better rear leg room. I shall be obliged if any enlightened BHPian could kindly post a comparison of the legroom and boot space in various comparable models in the same segment or even a segment lower. Sorry to trouble if this has been already done elsewhere.
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I found this on twitter. This is a sale invoice of Seltos. Apart from 28% GST (Cgst 14% + Sgst 14%), the govt also takes CESS 17%. On top of it, you are charged TCS 1% and Life Tax 14%. So, you're paying around Rs 5 lakhs in taxes for a 16 lakh car. Brilliant!
This is really sad. For 16.75L we pay government have taken 5L or 30% from our already taxable income. Post which we pay cess on fuel, Everlasting toll charges and do not even get good roads or parking space. To top it all we all have to take insurance by law and these companies deny claim on flimsy ground for which we have to run pillar to post. We are surely cursed as a buyer in this country. We are on mercy of the corporates and babus.

INR 9,75,000 the NET price will contain, MFG cost, company profit, dealer profit and supply chain cost. Essentially the car will be most likely be made at 7L or so. Now I am starting to believe that taxes need to be moderated from its current level.
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They have just forcefully dumped all the low, mid spec variants to the dealership & nothing is matching the pre-order sheets which dealers had provided them in early August.
Most of these may go unsold for months as they aren't Automatic too.
6200 units shipped out of factory, not sold. That's what happened !
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I went to sparsh kia and gave my sales rep a piece of my mind. He said sir I cannot help. He did not even commit to the timelines by when will he deliver the car.

With the mileage and gearbox issues on the gtx, I am inclined towards diesel auto as it will be reliable in the long run.
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I think other ways. Majority of the dealers are pushing for the htk+ and hte for sale..
I would love to see harrier come up with the harrier automatic and how that might also shift things in their favour.
We both are completely in the same boat, and both have been following both the Hector & Seltos thread from quite some time now.

I also went to Sparsh Kia over the weekend, there was still a 'mela' there, it was extremely hot and ACs were barely working. The staff was moving around as if they were entitled, and I believe on Sunday they had over 10-15 deliveries planned all HTK or lower and 1.5NA largely. Yes the GM complained and confided that Kia has been only sending them lower variants so far and have not even sent one automatic. I sat there patiently however, to get my booking changed from 1.4TGDI to 1.5 Diesel Auto. No news on GTX+ Auto 1.5Diesel yet though. Heck, no ETA commitment of the HTX+ Auto as well.

I was only toying with this idea also of a Harrier Auto and should I wait for it? The dark edition launch has had me salivating!


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I agree. The two new car launches left different tastes in my mouth. I booked for a test drive on Kia's website, I got no callback. I mailed Kia. No reply. I called their showroom on 22nd for the pricing, they whatsapped me 2 days later. I asked about the Diesel test drive I had requested, they said we have petrol only. The SA said you can test drive the petrol and book if you want. Such high handedness.

Just like its sister brand Hyundai, the success of the Seltos has gone to its head. Check the Hyundai venue thread, you'll know what I mean. In contrast, I visited the MG showroom once and I was pampered. They were extremely polite. I got a callback twice after my visit, asking about my experience. I requested for a test drive and they arranged the same promptly.

Every review online is more or less going gaga over the Seltos. Every comparative review pits it as being much better than the Hector in almost every department. I for one, didn't feel that the hector was that bad in comparison. The space it offers is huge and it's as premium as the Seltos in my books.

Honestly, the only reason I'm leaning towards the Seltos is mileage. The hector diesel will give me around 11 kmpl in the city , while the Seltos Diesel should give me close to 15. With an average running of 3000 KMs a month , I'm a bit tied down with my choice.

However, going by the overall experience, I'm contemplating. Very seriously. I'll visit the MG and Kia showrooms in Safdarjung, Delhi next weekend and make the final decision. will try to get a clearer picture about MG reopening their bookings as well. Willing to give Frontier Kia one more chance.
I agree to you 100%. I am so annoyed at the real world mileage of the Hector DCT, else IMO, right from the start the way MG has handled customers, bookings, showrooms, AMC schemes, buy-backs, waiting rewards schemes has been simply superb. You do feel the difference of one level superior class in case of the MG vs Kia.

I could rate Kia's showroom (the one I have visited and booked at) as one of the worse showrooms and staff experience, and not even once do you feel that you are there to spend close to 20million bucks. I mean the experience is the same one you get in a Hyundai, the staff is just not bothered!

I understand you have a 3000km monthly run which is a big number. I have a 2000km with auto being an absolute essential, which has forced me to look at Seltos Diesel Auto, as the DCT Turbo Petrols from both are just really thirsty! However, if I had a diesel auto option in the Hector, I would have gone ahead and had one over the Seltos any day.
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In contrast, the KIA showroom staff in Ghaziabad ( Link Road, Sahibabad) have been very courteous and prompt. I have taken 3 test drives like now, 1 manual and 1 each of the GTX 7DCT(petrol) and HTX+ AT (diesel) and all three have been given without fuss or complaint or impatience. The auto variants are shared by 2 showrooms in the city (of the same owner) hence had to wait for the 7DCT for a few days(they swap the autos every few days). Between the 2 auto variants (expectedly) found the 7DCT more silent, smoother with negligible difference in pull and pick up. On the other hand, the diesel rattle is quite acceptable too. The lag is acceptable in both (for me). The braking was superb.

The driver sitting position/height/reach will need individual juggling and adjustment for each driver. My leg/knee kept brushing against the steering shaft on entry- exit.

The GTX + 7DCT is reaching them by October, as per the SA looking after my case. He was willing to take booking for it. As per him booking for this variant will be with pre specified color choice, because they will be ordering per piece("per order"). Or is it they will be "getting" a few pieces only ? i wonder !
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Does anyone have information on the 1.5 Petrol engine. There are no reviews of that engine anywhere and its not even available for test drive at any dealership. Has anyone driven it?

Is this the downgraded 1.6 petrol engine used in Creta?

Any information on this will be really helpful.
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Does anyone have information on the 1.5 Petrol engine. There are no reviews of that engine anywhere and its not even available for test drive at any dealership. Has anyone driven it?

Is this the downgraded 1.6 petrol engine used in Creta?

Any information on this will be really helpful.
I drove the IVT version of the NA petrol and it was very dull with very slow throttle response. Cant quote for the manual version.
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I drove the IVT version of the NA petrol and it was very dull with very slow throttle response. Cant quote for the manual version.
IVT, I'm guessing will have the typical CVT rubber band effect.

Looking for some feedback on the manual variant.

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Does anyone have information on the 1.5 Petrol engine. There are no reviews of that engine anywhere and its not even available for test drive at any dealership. Has anyone driven it?
I have test driven the IVT of the 1.5 Petrol. It seemed adequate enough. Could not revv it up as was driving through Bangalore city roads. At low speeds (max I reached is 50 kph I guess) it had no lag or jerks. Ride quality was excellent, so was NVH levels. I think IVT will be a very VFM, practical version for city drives, what with the DCT from Kia being an unknown fare in Indian conditions. FE shown was around 7 km I think, but as explained by the sales guy riding alongside, it apparently does not reflect real world numbers as it is a test drive vehicle exclusively being driven in trafficky, metro construction ongoing roads. In it's current avatar, IVT has no GT version and hence misses out on safety features of GTX. Wish Kia brings a GTX or GTX+ of 1.5 IVT, too.

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I have test driven the IVT of the 1.5 Petrol. It seemed adequate enough.
I too have test driven the petrol IVT before booking it. Personally I didn't find the throttle response to be bad and it didn't feel underpowered.

I have test driven diesel auto and 1.4 manual. To be honest I felt the lag in the 1.4 petrol and the vehicle struggled to accelerate after reducing speed on speed breaker. I didn't check the mode, but I assume it was eco.

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Does anyone have information on the 1.5 Petrol engine. There are no reviews of that engine anywhere and its not even available for test drive at any dealership. Has anyone driven it?

I was at allied motors in noida sector 6 & they had all three auto variants available for test drive including the IVT & Diesel Auto . There were atleast 6 or 7 customer deliveries today itself . Yes this is the downgraded 1.6 rebored to 1.5 L .

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