[tarik.arora]

Originally Posted by soji

This is what Prerana motors got back to me with after raising a concern regarding the logistics charges. I had raised the complaint via TML. Are these not covered by TATA ?
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Though logistic charges have always been the centre of a debate, i will rest my case if the dealership is ready to provide an invoice for the same.

I remember having a similar discussion while buying my Nexon and the dealership did not budge a bit even after raising a complaint with TML. I finally paid the amount in the excitement of a new car, without debating much.

The dealer GM even said that every OEM does this in one or the other way. He said that Maruti has included this in their ex-showroom price only and it puts additional burden on the customer as the road tax is calculated on the increased ex-showroom price. If this is true, i still like what Maruti is doing. I dont want to see any additional and debatable amount on the pricing chart. It's completely fine if it is included in the ex-showroom price leaving no point to debate and get pissed-off!

[micraft]

I had booked the Harrier on January 26th, and I had received a call from KHT motors, and they told me a Harrier has been allocated for me by Tata which I would receive within 2-3 weeks, and they had required me to initiate the car lease processing, so that they can get the purchase order asap, and deliver my car.
I think KHT motors will send the chassis and engine number to my leasing company before the purchase order is sent.
When I had asked if the month of manufacturing would be February 2019, he mentioned that it would be a Jan 2019.
Any advice, on what all I can do to ensure that the vehicle is not a pre-production or demo vehicle? And any recommendations on any other checks?

[civic-sense]

Originally Posted by soji

This is what Prerana motors got back to me with after raising a concern regarding the logistics charges. I had raised the complaint via TML. Are these not covered by TATA ?

Sounds like the 50p cooling charges they charge on milk packets. But then next time the super market charges me a fee for keeping that biscuit I want to buy on their rack, I might take them to court.

Your dealer is stooping too low. If you have a choice walk away and find a better one.

[Sheel]

Originally Posted by soji

This is what Prerana motors got back to me with after raising a concern regarding the logistics charges. I had raised the complaint via TML. Are these not covered by TATA ?

This is something which TML needs to answer, especially when things are in black and white. Please question TML, attach this e-mail and see as to what they have to say.

[AutoNoob]

Originally Posted by soji

This is what Prerana motors got back to me with after raising a concern regarding the logistics charges. I had raised the complaint via TML. Are these not covered by TATA ? ... Why's it there is no regulatory to set any rules on these things ?

Originally Posted by tarik.arora

Though logistic charges have always been the centre of a debate, i will rest my case if the dealership is ready to provide an invoice for the same... He said that Maruti has included this in their ex-showroom price only and it puts additional burden on the customer as the road tax is calculated on the increased ex-showroom price. If this is true, i still like what Maruti is doing.

A few dealers have said the same to me. That it is easier for an OEM to add this cost to base price, but in that case the customer has to bear multiple costs on these 'handling charges' :

• GST @ 28~52%
• Increased RTO Tax
• Increased annual Insurance Cost

Now, I do understand this mathematics, however I am not sure if this is really the thought of OEMs or just another cooked up story of dealers.

Originally Posted by civic-sense

Your dealer is stooping too low. If you have a choice walk away and find a better one.

What to do when all dealers are hand-in gloves ?

[soji]

Now, I do understand this mathematics, however I am not sure if this is really the thought of OEMs or just another cooked up story of dealers.

What to do when all dealers are hand-in gloves ?

Well, this was the excuse Adishakti Motors, Hebbal had when I questioned them about their "mandatory" accessories worth 8500 and logistic charges. Guess what his answer was; "Sir, all dealers in Bangalore are charging the same and we cannot avoid them".

I asked him what are these mandatory accessories included and he says it's the Mat, idol, mudflaps etc. I asked him again what does this "etc" include and there's nothing else. It's then I dropped this dealer and went to Prerana motors though it's quite far away from my home.

Originally Posted by micraft

I had booked the Harrier on January 26th, and I had received a call from KHT motors, and they told me a Harrier has been allocated for me by Tata which I would receive within 2-3 weeks, and they had required me to initiate the car lease processing, so that they can get the purchase order asap, and deliver my car.
I think KHT motors will send the chassis and engine number to my leasing company before the purchase order is sent.
When I had asked if the month of manufacturing would be February 2019, he mentioned that it would be a Jan 2019.
Any advice, on what all I can do to ensure that the vehicle is not a pre-production or demo vehicle? And any recommendations on any other checks?

What was your choice of color? My assumption is that only the Copper color was made available for Media/Pre-production/Demo vehicles and you needn't worry as long as it's not copper. In case it is Copper, I would recommend you perform a thorough PDI of the vehicle before making the order.

[micraft]

Originally Posted by soji

What was your choice of color? My assumption is that only the Copper color was made available for Media/Pre-production/Demo vehicles and you needn't worry as long as it's not copper. In case it is Copper, I would recommend you perform a thorough PDI of the vehicle before making the order.

It is the Calisto Copper.. :(

[Chillout]

Originally Posted by micraft

...When I had asked if the month of manufacturing would be February 2019, he mentioned that it would be a Jan 2019.
Any advice, on what all I can do to ensure that the vehicle is not a pre-production or demo vehicle? And any recommendations on any other checks?

Well, Tata will definitely not sell pre-production or demo vehicles to customers, trust the brand and do your PDI and enjoy the drive. I know it's better to be cautious but at times we complicate things and make it hard on ourselves. You can ask for the details on dispatch from factory and when it reached the dealer, that will give you information if this was a demo vehicle.

[FrodoOfTheShire]

Originally Posted by hridayjyoti

Yes, TCS is 24375 with taxes (16250+50% GST) and handling charges of 9500.

Found this update on the GST thread -

"...the government has clarified that no goods and services tax needs to be paid on tax collected at source (TCS) under the Income Tax Act."

https://m.economictimes.com/industry...w/68328112.cms

Please check with your dealership on how to get the extra money refunded.

Originally Posted by ashutoshb

Here is an update of my experience with Harrier's booking till now.

Originally Posted by micraft

I had booked the Harrier on January 26th

FYI on the above article if your dealership asks you to pay the same

[micraft]

Originally Posted by FrodoOfTheShire

FYI on the above article if your dealership asks you to pay the same

Nope, KHT has not taken GST on the TCS, it is 16250/-.
But the logistics charge and basic accessories remain at 9500/- and 8500/- respectively.

[soji]

Originally Posted by micraft

Nope, KHT has not taken GST on the TCS, it is 16250/-.
But the logistics charge and basic accessories remain at 9500/- and 8500/- respectively.

You could ask them to exclude the accessories and add some of your own. The 8500 for a set of mats and mud flaps isn't justified. You might choose to add the moulded mats, flaps and other accessories of your choice for this price.

[Scorpion 10]

Originally Posted by soji

Well, this was the excuse Adishakti Motors, Hebbal had when I questioned them about their "mandatory" accessories worth 8500 and logistic charges. Guess what his answer was; "Sir, all dealers in Bangalore are charging the same and we cannot avoid them".

Lot of ways one can get attention of company officials. Make full use of it and get clarity before making a final decision. Yes, you have to be patient and not get carried away with the hype surrounding the new product which dealers may utilize for their profit.

Further, I tweeted the same regarding logistic charges to Tata Motors. Will post once I have response.

[soji]

Originally Posted by Scorpion 10

Lot of ways one can get attention of company officials. Make full use of it and get clarity before making a final decision. Yes, you have to be patient and not get carried away with the hype surrounding the new product which dealers may utilize for their profit.

Further, I tweeted the same regarding logistic charges to Tata Motors. Will post once I have response.

I did reach out to them once again post Prerana motors' response and this is what they had to say. Are folks from other states charged the same ?

[AdityaDeane]

Tata Harrier Black colour shows up on official site via imaginator

(Source)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gmMfvSWOKg

[ph03n!x]

Originally Posted by AdityaDeane

Tata Harrier Black colour shows up on official site via imaginator

(Source)

Awesome! Bring it on Tata!!

Lack of Black was one of the reasons why I do not own a Hexa. With the kind of cars they're making, and coming up with, I'll have no hesitation to get a Buzzard in black!