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Old 19th December 2018, 10:33   #2356
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Thanks for the inputs. Since you just picked up the Creta, how did you find the interior & exterior build quality in comparison? And did you feel this vehicle belongs to Creta's class at all as was initially speculated in this thread?
I am going to bite the bullet here.

Yes.! The build quality both inside and outside is at par with Hyundai's Creta. It is made really well. If someone is fine with the ergonomics and aesthetics Harrier offers (which I mentioned in my earlier thread) then quality should not be an issue. Car felt more macho and masculine than the Creta. Hard to describe. Creta has the fluid flow appeal, where edges are sharp and high contoured, where as the Harrier is more rounded and offers an harmonious palette. Somehow my doubts are on the color white (which most will want), as I mentioned before.

Is this the Creta Killer? I really do not know, to be honest. The price range is almost 3-4L more, so it is not even a boundary (or ancillary) product in the Creta line up. If I had not booked a Creta (or purchased), after yesterday would I have booked a Harrier. Probably no. It is a different pricing plateau altogether. Indians will muse: what extra do I get for so many more lakhs. Wider tires, ~600 cc of more engine, and a lot of diesel grunt. Of course a new product, a.k.a. looks and novelty.

Harrier's position lies elsewhere.

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Old 19th December 2018, 12:05   #2357
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Here is a video I compiled with our (my wife and me) experience previewing Harrier:





This is our first vlog, so please forgive if we sound stupid. Also, you can skip to 1:30 if you want to directly view the Harrier.


PS: If its not the right place to post this link, please let me know, I will keep in mind in future.
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Old 19th December 2018, 12:20   #2358
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I am going to bite the bullet here.

Car felt more macho and masculine then the Creta. Hard to describe. Creta has the fluid flow appeal, where edges are sharp and high contoured, where as the Harrier is more rounded and offers an harmonious palette. Somehow my doubts are on the color white (which most will want), as I mentioned before.

Harrier's position lies elsewhere.
I personally feel the Creta's exterior design carries too much of the confused legacy Hyundai design language, which is an odd mix of straight lines and curves.
In my view, Tiguan and Harrier are two examples of a clear design language, although they are very different languages. The Tiguan has a clean and timeless design, more straight lines and rectangles instead of circles/ovals, avoids unnecessary design elements such as meaningless contours, and feels purposeful with a clear personality.

The Harrier on the other hand, focuses on a clean "infinity" design, where the surfaces merge seamlessly, a couple of strong elements such as front bonnet/grill and the rear tail lamp cluster and black swooping band, making a statement about ruggedness and strength, despite the overall appealing aesthetics and fluidity of the design.

Creta is neither here nor there. There are some straight and edgy features on the sides, yet the overall feel makes one feel Hyundai is confused about whether to lean towards the fluidic design of the Elantra or be a macho SUV with bold and straight design. The headlights and tail-lams extend aimlessly into the body panels like a split glass of fluid, the front grill is trying to make a statement but is too small to do so, and there are unexpected ovals shapes and bulges here and there (such as an ill-defined bulge at the back hatch area)
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Old 19th December 2018, 12:37   #2359
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I personally feel the Creta's exterior design carries too much of the confused legacy Hyundai design language, which is an odd mix of straight lines and curves.

Creta is neither here nor there. There are some straight and edgy features on the sides, yet the overall feel makes one feel Hyundai is confused about whether to lean towards the fluidic design of the Elantra or be a macho SUV with bold and straight design.
Totally agree. It's already a bit dated looking even after the facelift compared to modern designs. Even the Tucson looks so much better.
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For Mumbaikars the Harrier would be displayed this weekend which is 22nd and 23rd at Inorbit Mall, Malad
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Creta is hatchback on stilts. Not an SUV by any stretch of the imagination. Wondering how people are comparing an i20 hatchback platform with LR world-class SUV platform?

Interiors of Creta are definitely worse off than Harrier. At least in pics, Harrier's color palette and materials exude class all around. Equipment is top notch too. XZ+ will come out soon to plug the gaps. I am expecting a pricing surprise from Tata.

Haven't seen the latest one in detail but those headlights and taillights on the Creta are age-old by 2019 standards. Looked inadequate when it was launched and remains more or less the same today.

Creta is not a patch on Harrier other than being priced obscenely and atrociously high.
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Some insight on the thinking behind the Harrier and the term/segment Tata believes it fits in "Urban UV" by Mayank Pareek Tata Motors PV President.

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Looking ahead, we are expectant of Harrier, our first monocoque SUV to be a game-changer in urban UVs segment. Built on the legendary D8 Discovery Sport architecture (Omega Arc), it is all set to herald the urban UV revolution in India.

With the aforementioned trends revving harder on our auto industry tracks, the UV segment as a whole is bound to become even more popular in the near future. In light of the current growth story witnessed by the UV segment, it won’t be long before urban UVs emerge as a specific segment or sub-segment in the UV space.
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Creta is hatchback on stilts. Not an SUV by any stretch of the imagination. Wondering how people are comparing an i20 hatchback platform with LR world-class SUV platform?
But who will see that ? Or the Duster's Logan origin - and the bad ergonomics. Or the Brezza's Swift base ? See a shape, check FE, and people ready to buy ?
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Demo cars start reaching dealerships.

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Wow!! That boot is ginormous. One could easily transport a baby elephant in it.
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Creta is hatchback on stilts. Not an SUV by any stretch of the imagination. Wondering how people are comparing an i20 hatchback platform with LR world-class SUV platform?
Creta is not an i20 on stilts. In fact it shares platform with the elantra and i30 and not the i20.

If your argument is that if an SUV is based on a platform that also underpins a sedan/hatch is NOT a real SUV, then even the Jeep Compass which shares its platform with the Fiat Punto and 500XL can never be called an SUV.

For a puritan, a monocoque SUV is not a real SUV. So the XUV 500 and Harrier cannot be called real SUVs.

There are several reasons I would buy a Harrier over a Creta, but the underlying platform would be the least of my worry.

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But who will see that ? Or the Duster's Logan origin - and the bad ergonomics. Or the Brezza's Swift base ? See a shape, check FE, and people ready to buy ?
Shape, ground clearance & long travel suspension. That is the SUV definition for India. Everything else is secondary!
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Those who have booked the car, what delivery time-line has been given to you ? Thinking of booking one.
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Shape, ground clearance & long travel suspension. That is the SUV definition for India. Everything else is secondary!
Depends on what people buy an 'SUV' for!

Most people just need a 'car' (with all the luxuries and features that come with it) with a high seating position and good ground clearance.
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I heard (could be a rumour) the official launch is slated for 24th January 2019
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