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Old 20th December 2018, 12:53   #16
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Re: Hybrids - A transition phase to EVs in India

I'm glad that the Government's thinking is shifting a bit favorably towards hybrids. Its so easy to go hybrid with immediate effect if the govt facilitates. Many of the mass market cars that are sold here already have hybrid variants internationally. We should encourage the sale of these options as soon as possible (I am not sure how easy it is to adapt domestic manufacturing facilities to also seamlessly produce the hybrid variant but if you have clear unwavering policy direction from today, only then can we see such models coming into mainstream by 2020 / 22.
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If reports are to be believed, then India is on the right path in transitioning Hybrids to EV's.

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Companies have started working on the development of full hybrid cars after the assurance from Union Government stating that it will not differentiate between electric and hybrid vehicles and will offer financial incentives to carmakers.
Advantage - Honda , Toyota and Suzuki as they will introduce their hybrid cars in India by the end of 2021.

- Honda Cars has decided to bring next generation City, a midsize sedan as Hybrids in India.

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Differentiating from global trends, Japanese companies have been working on making petrol-electric hybrids. These companies are in talks with Indian government for policies relating to the same as they believe petrol and diesel hybrids contribute to substantially less carbon emission.
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Hybrid vehicles too under FAME II incentives umbrella.

Japanese Manufacturers have since been urging the government to promote hybrid and alternate fuel vehicles till the vehicles can become fully electric.

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A uniform incentive of Rs 10,000 per kilowatt hour (kWh) of battery pack capacity would be extended to all electric vehicles including plug-in hybrids (PHEVs) and strong hybrids, except for buses, as the cost of batteries is one of the main causes of difference in cost of hybrid/electric vehicles and internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles
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To restrict very high-end vehicles from availing incentives, a maximum threshold value will be specified in the new policy, the official said. Only vehicles with ex-factory price less than the particular threshold will be eligible for the incentives

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Toyota - Suzuki take the Hybrid route in its transition path to EV's for India.

With the Global alliance firmed up, TMC will share hybrid electric vehicles (HEV) technologies with Maruti Suzuki where the HEV systems, engines and batteries will be locally procured through the Suzuki-Toyota-Denso plant which is coming up in Gujarat.

In Europe, Toyota will supply two electrified vehicles to Suzuki which will be spawned by RAV and Corolla platforms. Moreover, Toyota will also supply Hybrid Systems to Suzuki which will be used across its portfolio globally.

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Old 21st March 2019, 19:59   #20
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Re: Hybrids - A transition phase to EVs in India

Something that I have been keenly following!
I had visited Sri Lanka earlier this month and was pleasantly surprised at the fact that a majority of cars on the roads carried a "Hybrid" badge. The large majority of cars were of Japanese origin (toyotas, hondas, nissans etc). Even suzuki's were visible in the hybrid avatars - so obviously the technology is already mass market ready. With no charging infrastructure in place, much like here in India, and hybrids seem the most logical step towards the utopia of zero emission transportation. So I wonder why the Indian government is dragging its feet. Any thoughts?
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I would saw the Plugin hybrids are the way to go. Practical and economical (if the initial cost is kept low). Case in point the VW Golf GTE and the Ford C-Max hybrid. My boss and team mates drive one.
Each charge gives a range of about 35 Kms which is sufficient for a day's run and for the 'long' drives, you can fill up on petrol. There is a 1.4 TSi for pedal to metal stuff.
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Toyota will allow royalty-free use of some hybrid patents.

The goal may be to renew interest from manufacturers in gasoline-electric hybrid vehicles.

Toyota Promotes Global Vehicle Electrification by Providing Nearly 24,000 Licenses Royalty-Free.

Includes patents awarded over more than 20 years of hybrid electric vehicle technology development.

Technical support available to help finished vehicle manufacturers reach performance goals with purchased vehicle electrification systems.

Opportunity to promote the further growth of electrified vehicles globally.


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Toyota Promotes Global Vehicle Electrification by Providing Nearly 24,000 Licenses Royalty-Free.
Toyota sees new business opportunity in leveraging hybrid tech. The automaker has received enquiries from more than 50 companies since announcing last week that it would offer free access to patents for EV motors and power control units.
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Until now we have been a tier 1 automaker, but now we also intend to become a tier 2 supplier of hybrid systems
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To meet the expected surge in hybrid demand, Terashi said he is planning to increase production capacity for hybrid components mainly by adding capacity at existing plants.

Toyota has initially courted its partner automakers. It already supplies the plug-in hybrid system for Subaru Corp's Crosstrek SUV crossover model, and last month Toyota announced that it would be a global supplier of hybrid systems to compact car maker Suzuki Motor Co.
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MD and CEO of Maruti Suzuki:

Maruti Suzuki urges government push for hybrids - hybrids will boost demand for EV components, thus making a case for an even higher level of local manufacturing.

The second phase of the FAME scheme that kicked off from April 1, 2019, with a budget outlay of Rs 10,000 crore, focuses on heavy localisation of EV parts.

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Ayukawa believes volumes are more critical than subsidy, when it comes to boosting local manufacturing of electrical components, and parts such as battery, motor, inverter and so on are common among electric vehicles, strong hybrids and plug-in hybrid
Maruti is even looking at stronger hybrids and is said to be working closely with suppliers for its electrification strategy that will involve localisation of a high percentage of its components.

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On my way to Andheri via Airoli on the eastern express highway, I spotted a Maruti EV making her way along with me.
Saw her till I took the turn at SEEPZ towards Andheri Kurla link road.
Guess she was going towards Jogeshwari.
The Charging port is on the above the left forward tyre towards the A pillar.

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Sorry to have missed the deadline to edit above pics.
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Both photos shows EV badging.

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Re: Hybrids - A transition phase to EVs in India

I believe hybrids should be introduced as a replacement for diesels. The approx 1L price difference that currently exists between petrol and diesel which will increase further with BS6 can instead get you a hybrid petrol with a bit more mileage and torque like a diesel would with lower emissions.
Seems quite doable to me especially with retrofit hybrid kits costing about a lakh to install. Better economies of scale if adopted by manufacturers should enable better pricing or superior systems and also better integration
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Maruti seeks tax relief for TRUE hybrid, CNG cars.

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The country's largest carmaker Maruti Suzuki India (MSI) is pitching for tax relief for hybrid and CNG cars in addition to electric vehicles in order to promote green mobility in the country
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there is a need to promote hybrid and CNG cars as it will take some time for mass acceptance of electric vehicles (EVs) considering the high cost of technology right now.
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Old 19th August 2019, 16:23   #29
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Re: Hybrids - A transition phase to EVs in India

In my opinion, the government should not give any subsidy for the hybrid system that maruti currently have.

CNG prices are already 25% to 35% cheaper than comparable Petrol/Diesel, not sure why there should be any cut in taxes as the encouragement to buy a CNG powered vehicle is already existing due to lower running costs per km.

Maruti have been milking same engines and technologies for so many years, and now they are lobbying with the government in the name of job cuts for a package.

If the government grants such relaxations other industries will also line up for salvage packages & grants.
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Old 19th August 2019, 17:00   #30
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Just because they don't have an economically feasible Diesel engine, they are trying very hard to push CNG ? Exemption for Hybrid makes sense because they are more like a stop gap measure between ICE and Electric.
Maruti is becoming more like a cry baby. They had an entire decade to develop better power terrains, but they just din't and now they are feeling the pinch !
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