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Old 22nd January 2020, 13:28   #181
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Like you even I wish that Kia somehow manages to price the Carnival within Innova price bracket.
Didn't anyone read the comment below which reveals the prices of the Carnival?

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Kia Carnival has been launched in Telangana between Rs.16.14 to 23 Lakhs
Website :- https://telanganatoday.com/kia-carni...d-in-hyderabad
I believe that Kia has launched it very competitively against the Innova already, what more are we asking for? A bigger and better vehicle in most respects, at the price range of Innova Crysta Diesel, isn't that what we all wanted to see?
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Old 22nd January 2020, 13:37   #182
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Didn't anyone read the comment below which reveals the prices of the Carnival?
I believe that Kia has launched it very competitively against the Innova already, what more are we asking for? A bigger and better vehicle in most respects, at the price range of Innova Crysta Diesel, isn't that what we all wanted to see?
There is no official announcement from Kia. Cannot go with speculations. They will be launching it post the Auto Expo and that is when one would know the real pricing.

I am sure like us, Kia has good marketing guys to know what is best suited for their product. We can only contemplate, wish and compare till there is an official announcement been made.
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Old 22nd January 2020, 15:13   #183
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Just a random slightly off topic question :

Is the grammar of the Carnival Ad tagline wrong ? " If you think this ISNT extravagant wait till you see the Carnival"

Shouldn't it be IS ?
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The first drive by Autocar is nice. I am happy that we are now getting the luxury for the price. Hopefully pricing isn't out of reach for fleet or upper middle class.
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Old 22nd January 2020, 19:10   #185
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1410 bookings in a single day!!! Demand for the Limousine variant! Looks like Kia is in for a serious kill the second time around!!

Link - https://www.rushlane.com/kia-carniva...-12348401.html

Eat this arrogant Toyota!!
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As per the website quoted below, Kia Carnival has been launched in Telangana between Rs.16.14 to 23 Lakhs

Website :- https://telanganatoday.com/kia-carni...d-in-hyderabad
This page does not exist anymore. Probably a sign that the information was incorrect.
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Sticking my neck out here but don’t see this car at anything less than ₹30 l ex showroom. Let’s wait for the launch. Must say it seems like a great car, the first real Minivan in India
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Old 22nd January 2020, 21:38   #188
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Reliability at a premium is not a crime, IMO. But premium for "no competition" is a crime.

In a similar way, Kia and its big brother Hyundai is milking the Indian customers by pricing the Creta and Seltos in the current range. The reason for both the cases? There is no proper competition for Innova and Creta/Seltos twins. Now Carnival comes to compete with Innova. Will there be a competitor for Creta / Seltos from Toyota?
Agreed. But what you said about 'Premium for no competition is a crime' is true for the Innova too.

Neither of them are saints, however if competition forces both to eat their margins, then ultimately its the customer who wins
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This page does not exist anymore. Probably a sign that the information was incorrect.
It could also be a sign that, the editor could have quoted an introductory pricing from some reliable source in KIA.
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It could also be a sign that, the editor could have quoted an introductory pricing from some reliable source in KIA.
No reason for Kia to try so hard. Even toyota doesn't price Innova itself in this range. Besides, introductory pricing which will go up by 50% later is suicidal.
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Old 23rd January 2020, 11:53   #191
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Being a Seltos owner, I was invited to the launch of the Carnival at our hometown dealership - Pressana Kia, Tirupur. The demo car was a Prestige 7-seater variant. One simply has to see the Carnival in person to truly understand the sheer size of it. The car is a looker and for an MPV that's 5+ meters long, the proportions are spot on.

There is ample space on the inside and the second row feels truly luxurious. I was skeptical of the sliding doors at first, but it made so much sense seeing and using it in person. With such a wide opening, it makes the ingress and egress an absolute breeze, I was able to practically walk into the car. It also ups the luxury quotient a lot. I'm 6'1 and was even able to access the 3rd row with ease. Some bits of the interiors felt a bit dated compared to the Seltos, especially the touchscreen unit on the front. I also prefer the Seltos' steering wheel to the one on this. But the Carnival makes up for it with the quality of materials, fit and finish. The plastics in particular felt way better than the Seltos.

If priced right, this will easily eat into the top end Innova sales. It's also the perfect upgrade for the existing Innova owners with large families, if he or she is okay with a Monocoque and FWD setup. No test drive vehicles are available yet.

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Agreed. But what you said about 'Premium for no competition is a crime' is true for the Innova too.

Neither of them are saints, however if competition forces both to eat their margins, then ultimately its the customer who wins
Sub 4M SUV now cost 15-16L on road. Seltos/Creta, a segment above carries 2-4L premium, I don't see anything wrong in that. In 2005-2010 timeframe Corolla/Octavia/Civic used to cost 10-13L, while the Innova also used to cost same or slightly cheaper. The sedans are costing around 25-30L now, so is Innova. Surprised no one is speaking about premium pricing of D segment sedans! Atleast here in Karnataka, every car is overpriced-blame it on taxes, not the manufacturer. If a car is overpriced for what it offers, it would have bitten dust long time back.

Carnival might surprise KIA with sales numbers, is easily worth a 10Lac premium over Innova. The only problem i see, Innova has moved towards SUV'ish looks(still a VAN), while Carnival retains the old school VAN looks.

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Wow, what a looker for a van and the front seats and dashboard layout makes it feel premium from the inside. I would never consider an Innova because if its taxi image and feel even if it looks so much better in its current avatar. I could have easily consider this if had not bought a Kodiaq recently although both are diff segments and can't be compared.
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One review I found which explains all the features in detail.

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KIA get 1400+ booking for Carnival in one day. Off to a good start, I am sure post announcing the price, some more will book this! 64% of booking is for Limousine trim. Did I hear we are in deep recession?
https://www.autocarindia.com/car-new...one-day-415726

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