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Just remove D-4D monogram (probably change the radiator grill too) and enjoy the car for few more years. ![]() | |
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| ![]() I get stopped in my old 2004 Esteem quite a bit. I was talking to the traffic cop the other day and he said the maximum number of cars they're catching are old Innovas that are still running on the road past their 10-year life. |
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http://www.delhi.gov.in/wps/wcm/conn...iesel+vehicles Not gone through, though. Quote:
It seems the case was filed by Sri MC Mehta, a serial PILler. There is an interesting history here. A few decades back, this gentleman filed another PIL seeking closure of a fertiliser factory. (Shriram Fertilisers). The court rejected an application for interim stay of functioni g of the plant. The might this application was rejected, poisonous gas leaked, and 6 or 7 people died. This was some time after the Bhopal tragedy. Anyway, apparently in a knee jerk reaction, the court rendered some directions, which, IMHO, did not change the law a bit, but are considered as landmark decisions. That decision also marks the beginning of unapologetic and un-camouflaged judicial legislation in India. In 1996, one of my friends took a bike on a train for a week long trip to what is now NCR. Said that was cheaper. The RTA for NCR has to choose between allowing 4 to 5 k new buses, and allowing public to simply replace the old cars. This will only help car dealers and manufacturers. And that is what most serial pillers do. Last edited by tsk1979 : 26th March 2019 at 12:27. Reason: line spacing spelling | ||
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| ![]() Does anyone know what the effect of banning 10/15 year old cars has been on the second-hand car market/resale value of cars in NCR? I am assuming prices would drop quite a bit, cause a 5 year old diesel car will have only 5 years left, so people may not be willing to pay much for it. Or am I wrong? [Of course, cars can be sold in other markets, but how many people are going to do that?] |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Even if it's not plummeting, the next buyer/greasy dealer will remind you it's scrap and try to play it to his advantage. Tried to evaluate my 6 year old car and the first statement was its got only 4 years left. |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Delhi police explains diesel/petrol NGT rule Source: Bunny Punia PS: Read comments at your own risk. |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() By Delhi he means Delhi, or does that include ncr? |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Anyone knows if the MORTH has actually approached the SC to seek relief for 10 year old+ diesel vehicles that meet the relevant PUC specification? Any related links to the same will be very appreciated. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/66715418.cms |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() With a heavy heart, I have to share that our Milemuncher (New Delhi Innova V , Diesel, Mfg and Registration 10/2009) will bid us a tearful farewell today - leaving only memories behind. I tried my level best to keep the car : a) Followed up with the TOI to check if their journalists had any news - no dice. The government cannot make a representation, probably due to the policy freeze in the run-up to the elections. b) Investigated transferring the car to Kolkata - however no B.S. 3 may be transferred there. Odr201775329.pdf c) Solicited help from Cars24 and Bluejack. Both low-balled me to a ridiculous price point. Never suffered such ignominy before. d) Asked Toyota - they lo-balled me, and the deal went south. d) Placed a free ad on OLX. Plenty of interest from dealers, absolutely zero private buyers. Should I mention that all the offers were an insult to the car, and to my blood, sweat and tears spent on the vehicle. e) Spread the word amongst the grapevine of the friendly A.S.S. and the local taxi-stands. Moderate interest, but again the dealer community showed up at my door-step. ![]() f) Finally, frustrated at the lack of progress , I placed an ad in two vernacular dailies in Rajasthan. Plenty of interest, and I closed the deal with one gentleman. Why Rajasthan - and why not Punjab, U.P. or anywhere else close to Delhi? Simply because I have this perception (bordering on racism), that the average gent from Rajasthan might actually be more law abiding than people from Punjab and/or U.P. What now? We need a replacement for Milemuncher. Something that will carry out the legacy we've gotten used to - a no frills machine, that simply performs, with minimal intervention. And it HAS to be a small car, our needs have changed. I for one cannot afford to throw away the replacement car after 15 years, and I certainly cannot afford to change my residence address because of it. We need a vehicle that will last our lifetime - not a vehicle which will pander to the wishes of a generally unhealthy population , crying wolf because they were brought to their knees by the slightest breeze in winter.
As my better half quipped, Stop taking care of R3 (Raging Red Rover (R3) - My Mahindra Scorpio S10 4x4). Make sure it's just about road-worthy by the time it's extended warranty is up. And then dispose it. That's exactly what 99% of Delhi's Junta does. And they don't have to suffer the ignominy of what you are going through with Milemuncher. Quote:
I for one ,have decided NOT to purchase a replacement. If you were in my shoes - would you purchase a new car today? Why? Last edited by tsk1979 : 26th March 2019 at 12:28. Reason: Added comment. format | |
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What hurts more is that apart from this draconian step, there is no policy change or any step taken to curb down on pollution. Infact as the media is getting more and more active about this topic, I am amused to see that the air quality is foul in almost all cities in India and not just in Delhi as it was made out to be. So which car did you shortlist then to replace the trusted Innova? | |
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Infractions: 0/1 (5) | ![]() Unfortunately there are no scrappage benefits in our country unlike UK, where people got good deals on exchange of old polluting vehicles. Bureaucracy & Judiciary only look at one side of coin not the other. Just because NGT has passed order no steps are taken to compensate aggrieved car owners due to the Draconian order. |
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I for one, had once thought of brazening it out - just like you! However, recent discussions amongst like minded friends - nudged me into a corner. I came to know that Insurance co.s won't be allowed to provide cover for an NCR number plate, and local fuel bunks won't be allowed to give the relevant (BS 3) PUC certificate, once the 10 years are up. Milemuncher was bought in 2009 for my better half. Sense prevailed, because the last thing we both need, is for some random cop giving her a bad time during her commute. In terms of a replacement car, we had been thinking of a 4 seater preferably from the Toyota stable, and preferably brand new. We had looked at the Etios sedan - but that purchase wont happen because at the end of the day , it has an ICE - and therefore (for us) does not have an open ended shelf life if it has a DL registration. For us , this NGT order of scrappage after 15 years is clearly a blatant infringement of our Fundamental Right to Equality. It's nothing short of discrimination -and is based upon where we choose to live - it has absolutely nothing to do with the actual compliance to pollution specs. To think, the order has the blessing of the Hon'ble SC of India - hitherto the champion of the Preamble to Our Constitution, leaves us extremely disappointed with what we believed to be the One and Only functioning Pillar of Democracy. Further, when the Delhi Government collected road tax 10 years ago, they had entered into a contract with us, that does not expire for another 5. So even the State Government is liable for Breach of Contract. We are confused about the government's policy too. The government had promised a comprehensive and revamped MV act, no draft has been made available to the general public for comment. We don't know what shape or form it will take. We also don't know , what if anything , the government plans to do , to make Green personal transportation within the common man's reach. Specifically:
Unless, I get convincing answers to the above , I am afraid my money stays in the bank. And SIAM, the Government and all the other Pillars of Democracy can bid a small Source of Revenue - good bye! I encourage others to bite the bullet - and call the bluff that is being foisted on us. Remember, if there's one truth - it's this - MONEY TALKS. Last edited by tsk1979 : 26th March 2019 at 12:28. Reason: formatting | |
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