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![]() But after having driven a scorpio, i can say the body roll of a bolero is lesser. But at 11 lacs its better to buy something more modern then this machine. There is so much more value out there. Most of the boleros go for the construction industry, mining and police vehicles off late. Maddy | |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() The strategy is not to kill M&M's bread and butter earner, the Bolero. It sells 6000 plus units a month and M & M unlike TKM would not risk a Qualis. So the best way is to let the brand remain, encash upon it's brand equity gained over the last 19 years and keep on doing whatever mandatory upgrades are required from time to time, so that its production does not become unsustainable. The first grevious loss for the Bolero was the Peugeot XD3P powerplant of the first generation models. What a workhorse it was ! I have done duties driving continuously for two to three full days, doing long distances on this beast. The engine was bulletproof and never gave any trouble, other than the oil and oil filter changes it needed. So also the gearbox. It's NVH levels were though not much tolerable, but much better than one of its predecessors, the Mahindra CJ 500 D (2350 cc International tractor engine) ! So that was a great consolation. The XD3P was also a wee bit better in the NVH department as compared to its immediate predecessor, the 2115 cc Peugeot 540 DP. The BS II Standards culled the tough workhorse viz. Peugeot XD3P and the DI came along with a bang! What I disliked for the Boleros was the very poor plastic quality in the interiors, the dash included. The dash was extremely spartan with just two gauges apart from the speedo. I was wondering that these people gave the 540 DP/ 550 DP, Marshal or Major so many gauges (total three to four plus speedo), but when it comes to their then upmarket Bolero, the rules changed ! Pitifully, the plastics are still too poor and so also the "jazzed up", good for nothing, cheap looking instrumentation in the latest generation Boleros. Many "A" and "B" segment cars have better interiors and dashboards/instrumentations. M&M have decided to retain the antiquated DI engine and make it BS VI compliant soon as per this newsreport ! If Hindustan Motors could upgrade a 1961 BMC diesel of 1489 cc (technology imported into India in 1979) to BS IV standards by fitting a turbocharger (no common rail there by HM), M&M can very well do this job with its antiquated DI engine with their vast resources. Now it will be interesting to watch as to what M&M do with the bodyshell ( a derivative of the 1960's Jeep C J 6 age) to make it compatible with the forthcoming NCAP norms, to make it score 4 plus stars? And we alongside, also see the writing on the wall. It's implied that the other bread and butter earner for M & M , the Scorpio will also get similar facelifts and powerplant "lifts" to make this SUV compliant with all the forthcoming , mandatory norms. The Bolero and Scorpio are here to stay, come what may ! Last edited by anjan_c2007 : 10th May 2019 at 14:06. |
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| ![]() The DI engine first seen in Commander was later mated to a 4 speed gearbox when the Camper was launched in 2002. The engine in Camper was BS II compliant then. It made the Camper successful. It never complained whatever load you placed or how much speed you did. Though rated payload was 1070 kgs, it easily carried twice that weight, and without a significant drop in FE. The gearbox was very sturdy, so was the differential. If I remember correctly, the passenger Bolero DI was introduced in or around 2007 with a new exterior, and then it propped up the sagging sales and made Bolero what it is now. Ofcourse, there were several updates since then but I think the turning point came in 2007. However, I do feel Bolero is a bit over priced now. But when buyers are not complaining, it doesn't matter. Bolero is known for its ability to chug along with its 2.5 ltr engine. If smaller displacement engine is employed, it might be adversely impacted. It would be interesting to learn how many Boleros with 2.5 lt engine are sold in comparison with the 1.5 lt, sub 4 mt ones. Last edited by simplyself : 10th May 2019 at 19:39. |
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Team-BHP Support ![]() ![]() | ![]() You can call me biased, but for some strange reason that I don't know, I love the simple dashboard of my Bolero. It gives a feel of the 80s or even before that. It just shows whatever is needed, nothing else. A 4wd shift light would have been good and wish the colour was black like that in the Thar. The grey colour is a bit sad. But it is far better than the current dashboard with digital instrument cluster! |
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| ![]() Mahindra Bolero spied with airbag and reverse parking sensors Source Article Quote: |
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| ![]() Was looking at the Mahindra Bolero website, and saw this:- ![]() Even though there is no updated price list or brochure available on the website, buti guess this means that the launch of Bolero with new safety features is around the corner now. |
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| ![]() 2019 Mahindra Bolero ABS bookings now open officially ![]() From 1st July, all the four-wheelers selling in India have to offer ABS, a driver-side airbag, a speed warning system, rear parking sensors and seatbelt reminder for the driver and co-driver. Link Last edited by jailbird_fynix : 5th July 2019 at 09:08. |
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| ![]() I have not been able to get hold of the latest brochure of the Bolero Power+ on their website, though the prices seem to have been declared now. Has anyone seen the new brochure with mention of Airbag and ABS in the brochure? ![]() Last edited by AdityaDeane : 14th July 2019 at 21:43. |
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| ![]() As per ACI, Mahindra Bolero power plus has been certified as BS6. From being written off by auto media due to new crash norms, that's an amazing turn around ![]() Link |
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| ![]() And finally the update we all had been waiting for, the Bolero Power+ brochure has finally been updated with details of Airbag, ABS, Speed Alert System, Seatbelt Reminders, Reverse Parking Sensors etc. Surprisingly, some of these features, viz. Co-Driver Occupant Detection System, is still missing in the LX model sold primarily to the Government Agencies. Does that not contradict the Government's stand on making those safety features standard for all vehicles? Or maybe cause most Government Servicemen sit on the middle seats and not with their drivers! Let's wait and see when the actual vehicles start arriving in the showrooms. The brochure does not mention if the engine has become BS6 compliant or not it still makes 70bhp and 195Nm. |
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