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Old 10th May 2019, 13:13   #16
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Thanks to Ujjwal Saxena for sending this image in.

Here's a pic of the inside. Is this the ABS warning light? Gosh, the Bolero is really the KING OF JUGAAD . In every car I've driven, the ABS light is part of the instrument cluster, but Mahindra didn't want to take the effort & update that.

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Open the hood and you will find more Jugaad. There are four belts in it(Powersteering, AC, Alternator and Timing). The power windows are in the center console, the cigarette lighter touches your feet.

But after having driven a scorpio, i can say the body roll of a bolero is lesser. But at 11 lacs its better to buy something more modern then this machine. There is so much more value out there.

Most of the boleros go for the construction industry, mining and police vehicles off late.

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The strategy is not to kill M&M's bread and butter earner, the Bolero. It sells 6000 plus units a month and M & M unlike TKM would not risk a Qualis. So the best way is to let the brand remain, encash upon it's brand equity gained over the last 19 years and keep on doing whatever mandatory upgrades are required from time to time, so that its production does not become unsustainable.

The first grevious loss for the Bolero was the Peugeot XD3P powerplant of the first generation models. What a workhorse it was ! I have done duties driving continuously for two to three full days, doing long distances on this beast. The engine was bulletproof and never gave any trouble, other than the oil and oil filter changes it needed. So also the gearbox. It's NVH levels were though not much tolerable, but much better than one of its predecessors, the Mahindra CJ 500 D (2350 cc International tractor engine) ! So that was a great consolation. The XD3P was also a wee bit better in the NVH department as compared to its immediate predecessor, the 2115 cc Peugeot 540 DP.

The BS II Standards culled the tough workhorse viz. Peugeot XD3P and the DI came along with a bang! What I disliked for the Boleros was the very poor plastic quality in the interiors, the dash included. The dash was extremely spartan with just two gauges apart from the speedo. I was wondering that these people gave the 540 DP/ 550 DP, Marshal or Major so many gauges (total three to four plus speedo), but when it comes to their then upmarket Bolero, the rules changed !

Pitifully, the plastics are still too poor and so also the "jazzed up", good for nothing, cheap looking instrumentation in the latest generation Boleros. Many "A" and "B" segment cars have better interiors and dashboards/instrumentations.

M&M have decided to retain the antiquated DI engine and make it BS VI compliant soon as per this newsreport ! If Hindustan Motors could upgrade a 1961 BMC diesel of 1489 cc (technology imported into India in 1979) to BS IV standards by fitting a turbocharger (no common rail there by HM), M&M can very well do this job with its antiquated DI engine with their vast resources.

Now it will be interesting to watch as to what M&M do with the bodyshell ( a derivative of the 1960's Jeep C J 6 age) to make it compatible with the forthcoming NCAP norms, to make it score 4 plus stars?

And we alongside, also see the writing on the wall. It's implied that the other bread and butter earner for M & M , the Scorpio will also get similar facelifts and powerplant "lifts" to make this SUV compliant with all the forthcoming , mandatory norms.

The Bolero and Scorpio are here to stay, come what may !

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The DI engine first seen in Commander was later mated to a 4 speed gearbox when the Camper was launched in 2002. The engine in Camper was BS II compliant then.

It made the Camper successful. It never complained whatever load you placed or how much speed you did. Though rated payload was 1070 kgs, it easily carried twice that weight, and without a significant drop in FE. The gearbox was very sturdy, so was the differential.

If I remember correctly, the passenger Bolero DI was introduced in or around 2007 with a new exterior, and then it propped up the sagging sales and made Bolero what it is now. Ofcourse, there were several updates since then but I think the turning point came in 2007.

However, I do feel Bolero is a bit over priced now. But when buyers are not complaining, it doesn't matter.

Bolero is known for its ability to chug along with its 2.5 ltr engine. If smaller displacement engine is employed, it might be adversely impacted.

It would be interesting to learn how many Boleros with 2.5 lt engine are sold in comparison with the 1.5 lt, sub 4 mt ones.

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Bolero used to rule the roost in my part, not any longer. Scorpio M2Di/EX/S2/S3 have taken over more than 75% of sales of the Bolero.

I thought Bolero is still the largest selling MUV, clocking about 7000 units per month?
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I thought Bolero is still the largest selling MUV, clocking about 7000 units per month?
It still is. But in Bihar, Scorpio outsells it. At my local dealership, ratio would be 10:2.
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Pitifully, the plastics are still too poor and so also the "jazzed up", good for nothing, cheap looking instrumentation in the latest generation Boleros. Many "A" and "B" segment cars have better interiors and dashboards/instrumentations.
You can call me biased, but for some strange reason that I don't know, I love the simple dashboard of my Bolero. It gives a feel of the 80s or even before that. It just shows whatever is needed, nothing else. A 4wd shift light would have been good and wish the colour was black like that in the Thar. The grey colour is a bit sad. But it is far better than the current dashboard with digital instrument cluster!
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The "New" Bolero has allegedly begun entering dealerships.

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Mahindra Bolero spied with airbag and reverse parking sensors

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Just days after an ABS-equipped Mahindra Bolero was spotted at a dealership, spy shots of a Mahindra Bolero equipped with driver-side airbag and rear parking sensors have surfaced online, courtesy Vikatan.com.

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When looked closely, the updated Mahindra Bolero can be seen accommodating a new steering wheel, which has been lifted from the Mahindra TUV300. The steering wheel had to be changed to add a driver airbag. The updated SUV will also boast other new safety features like a seat-belt reminder for front occupants, manual override for the central locking system, a speed alert system and rear parking sensors since it will become mandatory for all M1 category vehicles to have them as standard from 1 July 2019.

The spy shots show the vehicle featuring the same dual-tone theme, digital instrument cluster, faux-wood finish and the single-DIN audio system that are offered in the Power Plus ZLX variant currently. The exterior is no different from that of the current model. However, the spy shot below does show that black parking sensors have been added at the rear.

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In the future, the Mahindra Bolero will get structural upgrades, because it will become mandatory to clear crash tests for driver and passenger safety under BNVSAP from 1 October 2019. By March 2020, the 2.5L m2DiCR engine is said to be upgraded BS-VI standards. This engine develops 46.3 kW (63 PS) of maximum power at 3,200 rpm and 195 NM of peak torque at 1,400-2,200 rpm in its current, BS-IV state.

Mahindra is expected to give the Bolero a minor design refresh in 2020. The higher pedestrian safety demanded under BNVSAP from 1 October 2020 may compel the company to fit a higher bonnet, a softer bumper and a redesigned grille.
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Was looking at the Mahindra Bolero website, and saw this:-

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Even though there is no updated price list or brochure available on the website, buti guess this means that the launch of Bolero with new safety features is around the corner now.
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Was looking at the Mahindra Bolero website, and saw this:-

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Even though there is no updated price list or brochure available on the website, buti guess this means that the launch of Bolero with new safety features is around the corner now.
Why are they advertising higher seating position? Who needs a higher seating position in a Bolero?
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2019 Mahindra Bolero ABS bookings now open officially

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From 1st July, all the four-wheelers selling in India have to offer ABS, a driver-side airbag, a speed warning system, rear parking sensors and seatbelt reminder for the driver and co-driver.

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Was looking at the Mahindra Bolero website, and saw this:-

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Now they have added a mention about "Airbag" also in their website ad. Point to note is that it says Airbag and not Airbags, so only the driver will get the protection of an Airbag in the case of a collision because of the steering taken from New age models, and not the front passenger.

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I have not been able to get hold of the latest brochure of the Bolero Power+ on their website, though the prices seem to have been declared now. Has anyone seen the new brochure with mention of Airbag and ABS in the brochure?

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As per ACI, Mahindra Bolero power plus has been certified as BS6. From being written off by auto media due to new crash norms, that's an amazing turn around
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And finally the update we all had been waiting for, the Bolero Power+ brochure has finally been updated with details of Airbag, ABS, Speed Alert System, Seatbelt Reminders, Reverse Parking Sensors etc.

Surprisingly, some of these features, viz. Co-Driver Occupant Detection System, is still missing in the LX model sold primarily to the Government Agencies. Does that not contradict the Government's stand on making those safety features standard for all vehicles? Or maybe cause most Government Servicemen sit on the middle seats and not with their drivers!

Let's wait and see when the actual vehicles start arriving in the showrooms.

The brochure does not mention if the engine has become BS6 compliant or not it still makes 70bhp and 195Nm.
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