Why Matiz failed ?

WILDTHING · 25th January 2007, 02:13

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Originally Posted by mahadev_kc

But on a pessimistic front, I don't think GM will support the old matiz.

hey,
as far as i read the Matiz is going to be re-launched as Spark by GM,
In this year end.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 25th January 2007, 08:54

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Originally Posted by navdeep

I am sure it give maruti ( read estilo, WR ) a run for their money. It will be one of the best cars of 2007.

I am not so sure of it...

WagonR now plays LPG way... Its got a big demand and waiting list here... And also, not discounts at all (compared to 20k discount for petrol model)

Dont think all of a sudden, people are going to shift from Maruti... And the Estilo... Spark, though a good car, will have to work really hard to beat it... (am not saying its impossible... But, is going to be hard to beat Maruti on their homeground)...

Also, GM has to price it accordingly... As we have seen in case of the U-VA, GM can go very wrong in the pricing front (even with the tax reduction and small engine, its more expensive than the others)

mithun · 26th January 2007, 17:56

What was the BHP of Matiz ?

headers · 26th January 2007, 18:37

a lovely car with character while driving..a sure footed handler..the power comes pretty high on the rev range and she likes to be revved hard..
You could have loads of fun with the car.. Sadly..Daewoo's wrong timing of the market as well as its bankruptcy..did it all..

lamborghini · 26th January 2007, 20:18

The Matiz never failed.
It was known for -
- Its Space. It was bigger than the cielo
- Looks
- Engine. Was FE and reasonably powerful
- Ride was amazing and handling was decent
- Interiors were good.

Infact it even beat the Santro in J.D. Power's reliability rankings! It had the lowest PP100 vehicles (problems per hundred vehicles) in the small car segment.
An as pointed out, as the sales rose to substantial levels, Daewoo went bankrupt and quality and sales went down.

GTO, later on in its life cycle, The matiz was launched with 4 variants. in both the regular and the Spice versions.

Cheers

finneyp · 26th January 2007, 20:21

Yes, Matiz never failed, it was the Company (Daewoo) that was doomed.

And Ride quality of Matiz was far better than Santro, Zen, Wagon R etc.

ravibhat · 26th January 2007, 21:02

Matiz never failed but its company's strategy made its flop with wrong plans!

If car like Matiz badged under Maruti I am sure Santro would have faced similar situation like Getz.

Regards,

Ravi.

zzzehar · 28th January 2007, 23:26

I still own a 2001 Matiz Special variant. Done 55,440 on It till date. The only problem I faced with the car was with the injectors spraying as they wish, thus causing vibrations in the engine and low FE. I got them replaced with an accidental Matiz. Rear space is indeed very comfortable - better than Santro.
I changed the stock Bridgestone tyres at 51,000 km. Mine has company fitted roof rails, front power windows, power steering.
Power lag is there when AC is switched on at lower rpms, however serves well on the highway. I did want to sell the car when I started facing issues with injectors now It doesn't make any sense.
It's better to keep it than to sell it for mere 80-90k. I bought the car for 3.6 lacs in 2001.

rahul_intlad · 28th January 2007, 23:40

Sorry for going OT

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The only problem I faced with the car was with the injectors spraying as they wish, thus causing vibrations in the engine

@zzzehar could you please pm me more details about this problem and its solution,know of a car with the same problem.

raajks · 29th January 2007, 09:09

Matiz is a good car!
When it was lauched, technically it was one of the advanced cars.
It sported a 16bit microprocessor when Hyundai was boasting about its 8bit microprocessor system.

With its 800 CC engine it was able to provide better performance than Hyundai's 1.1 L engine.

When people started liking Matiz, the company collapsed.
This inturn let to the notion that spares for the car would not be available and Hyundai captured on that pretty well.

In reality, you can still find Matiz spares with a seasoned mechanic's shop.

amit · 29th January 2007, 16:38

How many of you remember the Matiz's entry into the guiness book of world records for being the most fuel efficient petrol car. It returned 32.01Kmpl in a mileage drive in Australia! Sure the car was driven at constant speeds, just driver on board, no luggage, no AC and with continously monitored tyre air pressure but it's still a great effort. The drive was more like ACI's drive for the Fiesta here a few months back.

Found a link for you guys.

PS: I was confused where to post this. Here or in the Verna's 38kmpl thread!

esteem_lover · 29th January 2007, 17:05

Daewoo failed & matiz, cielo both failed as a result. matiz was the best looking car in that segment at that time.i think it did win an award for that in europe. dont know much about other things though.

narayan · 29th January 2007, 17:40

i have a feeling GM might falter on the pricing front just like Daewoo did...

GM somehow has not got the picing right first time around for any of its cars till date -

OPtra went thru a price cut
Aveo - is not doing too well v/s the FIESTA or Verna
Tavera - was not doing too well till the OLD qualis was withdrawn

i have a feeling, GM might overprice it so that a base model SWIFT itself would eat into its market share

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

The first problem was the Matiz' positioning. They had launched ONLY a fully loaded variant at 4.xx lacs in mumbai. Compare that to the Santro and Zen, which had fully loaded as well as mid-range and basic versions.

The second was Hyundais determination and Daewoos lack of it.

Third was Daewoos financial crisis and eventual bankruptcy.

Dont fret too much over the Matiz' failure. Its coming back ala Chevy Spark.

mysteryairship · 29th January 2007, 18:47

Matiz was highly praised by Overdrive magazine. In fact it won OD's COTY in 2000.

26th January 2007, 17:56	#18
mithun BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 2,195 Thanked: 268 Times	What was the BHP of Matiz ?
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26th January 2007, 18:37	#19
headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Chennai Posts: 4,667 Thanked: 559 Times	a lovely car with character while driving..a sure footed handler..the power comes pretty high on the rev range and she likes to be revved hard.. You could have loads of fun with the car.. Sadly..Daewoo's wrong timing of the market as well as its bankruptcy..did it all..
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26th January 2007, 20:18	#20
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	The Matiz never failed. It was known for - - Its Space. It was bigger than the cielo - Looks - Engine. Was FE and reasonably powerful - Ride was amazing and handling was decent - Interiors were good. Infact it even beat the Santro in J.D. Power's reliability rankings! It had the lowest PP100 vehicles (problems per hundred vehicles) in the small car segment. An as pointed out, as the sales rose to substantial levels, Daewoo went bankrupt and quality and sales went down. GTO, later on in its life cycle, The matiz was launched with 4 variants. in both the regular and the Spice versions. Cheers
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26th January 2007, 20:21	#21
finneyp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,716 Thanked: 319 Times View My Garage	Yes, Matiz never failed, it was the Company (Daewoo) that was doomed. And Ride quality of Matiz was far better than Santro, Zen, Wagon R etc.
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26th January 2007, 21:02	#22
ravibhat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,256 Thanked: 37 Times View My Garage	Matiz never failed but its company's strategy made its flop with wrong plans! If car like Matiz badged under Maruti I am sure Santro would have faced similar situation like Getz. Regards, Ravi.
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28th January 2007, 23:26	#23
zzzehar BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gurugram Posts: 277 Thanked: 73 Times	I still own a 2001 Matiz Special variant. Done 55,440 on It till date. The only problem I faced with the car was with the injectors spraying as they wish, thus causing vibrations in the engine and low FE. I got them replaced with an accidental Matiz. Rear space is indeed very comfortable - better than Santro. I changed the stock Bridgestone tyres at 51,000 km. Mine has company fitted roof rails, front power windows, power steering. Power lag is there when AC is switched on at lower rpms, however serves well on the highway. I did want to sell the car when I started facing issues with injectors now It doesn't make any sense. It's better to keep it than to sell it for mere 80-90k. I bought the car for 3.6 lacs in 2001.
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29th January 2007, 09:09	#25
raajks BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: BLR Posts: 578 Thanked: 119 Times View My Garage	Matiz is a good car! When it was lauched, technically it was one of the advanced cars. It sported a 16bit microprocessor when Hyundai was boasting about its 8bit microprocessor system. With its 800 CC engine it was able to provide better performance than Hyundai's 1.1 L engine. When people started liking Matiz, the company collapsed. This inturn let to the notion that spares for the car would not be available and Hyundai captured on that pretty well. In reality, you can still find Matiz spares with a seasoned mechanic's shop.
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29th January 2007, 16:38	#26
amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 449 Times	How many of you remember the Matiz's entry into the guiness book of world records for being the most fuel efficient petrol car. It returned 32.01Kmpl in a mileage drive in Australia! Sure the car was driven at constant speeds, just driver on board, no luggage, no AC and with continously monitored tyre air pressure but it's still a great effort. The drive was more like ACI's drive for the Fiesta here a few months back. Found a link for you guys. PS: I was confused where to post this. Here or in the Verna's 38kmpl thread!
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29th January 2007, 17:05	#27
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	Daewoo failed & matiz, cielo both failed as a result. matiz was the best looking car in that segment at that time.i think it did win an award for that in europe. dont know much about other things though.
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29th January 2007, 18:47	#29
mysteryairship Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 21 Thanked: 0 Times	Matiz was highly praised by Overdrive magazine. In fact it won OD's COTY in 2000.
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