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First Mahindra, then Suzuki. I wonder how many more we will find in the wild. Do they have claim to the Iron throne..errr.. Trail? | |
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Infractions: 0/2 (8) | ![]() Maruti is very very good in coming up with very very bad designs. At this rate there will be a tight competition between Maruti designers and Chinese designers for the No#1 spot ![]() |
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| ![]() The vehicle without those wheel arches looks so very very bad. Nobody cares if we call it an SUV or not or whether it will sell etc etc. The least they shouldn't do is come out with good designs. |
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Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: KL 7
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As the old adage goes, 'you can't polish a turd!' The irony is Suzuki knows it's made a terribly designed product. So how they resolve this is by selling accessories to customers who want to make their spressos more 'appealing'! Whichever way you look at it, is a win-win for Suzuki. They make money from selling spressos and they also make money from selling make-up/accessory kits as well. Rest assured no espresso owner is driving it home in stock form! Well played Suzuki. Last edited by moralfibre : 6th October 2019 at 10:26. Reason: Typo | |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() I checked out the Spresso today The car looks bigger than pics would have you believe Bonnet is a good 3.5ft high Visibility is excellent, bonnet visible from driver's seat Front seats provided excellent support and were very comfortable Rear bench integrated headrests are absolutely useless Rear legroom was very impressive- I am 6'2 and I could sit comfortably with a couple of inches space left after setting driver seat to my driving position. This is the space left in the rear bench after me seated. ![]() Rear bench can easily accommodate 3 normal size adults Wheels are awfully undersized ![]() My kwid feels cramped after sitting in the Spresso. Area where my Kwid 1.0 excels the Spresso : Looks Areas where Spresso excels Kwid 1.0: Space Maruti A.S.S Segment first steering mounted controls That sweet 1.0 engine Better fuel efficiency Top end VXI(O) retails at 5.5 lakhs OTR including insurance for 3 years. This car ticks all the boxes for the first time car buyer. Can be a nice urban beater car too. Will definitely sell as much as alto. I also have a feeling this could steal away a lot of sales from Celerio. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() But then, my Kwid is a beauty, more so with the facelift. ![]() Last edited by PrasannaDhana : 5th October 2019 at 17:36. |
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| ![]() Thank you! I also checked out the S-Presso today.
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Senior - BHPian ![]() Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bengaluru
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| ![]() They should do something to the ill formed teeth ![]() The problem is with competition. Maruti has been able to launch such cars since no one can match them with reach. |
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| ![]() Visited the showroom today and came out impressed. Visibility from the drivers seat is good. Seats are placed higher and hence very good thigh support. Considering its footprint it's super spacious inside. The build doesn't seem to be tinny. The doors close with a assuring thud. With the body kit looks are also acceptable. The flip type door handles and lack of rear power windows were the only irritating bits I found about the car. |
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| ![]() Let me preface this post by saying that the following views are my own and in no way mean offense to anyone. And I least expect to get into arguments. (I'm a moderator for an investing website, trust me ![]() In my view, Maruti and Hero are two companies that have played on and captured customer sentiment. They've cashed in on their early-mover advantage (a long time ago now, I know) and have been able to maintain their status quo ever since. They set up shop far and wide throughout the country. And made their service centers accessible as well. That's been their strongest point. On the other hand, new entrants, as and when they came in, were facing these behemoths and couldn't compete even with competitive products, and in many cases superior. Localization and all. Examples being Yamaha, Kawasaki, VW, Ford, et cetera, that could never compete with Maruti on price, but their owners know how much they love their cars/bikes. In my view, Maruti has almost always short-changed its customers, and this one's no different. The S-Presso appears a car made for the sake of making it, nothing more, just another name in the line-up. Don't get me wrong, but the first-generation Swift, Ritz and S-Cross are a few examples where they've given the market a good product at a reasonable price. And lately, Ignis and Baleno, both VFM and possess those nice peppy engines. On the other hand, their cars were costlier and less equipped (read features) than their counterparts. It's only now (read Baleno onwards) that they've stepped up their game on this front, but still a ways to go vis-a-vis Hyundai and others. As many have stated already, while a lot of their variants appear in the list, they're really hard to find at the dealers. My personal experience: back in 2013, the sales guy tried really hard to push a Swift VDi when I had already booked a Ritz ZDi for 7.2 lacs on-road. Says something along the lines of "Airbags, ABS, defogger, rear wash & wipe are all overrated saar. How many people use them? Ritz has a booking period of 1 month and these discounts won't apply when your car arrives. Why don't you get the VDi we have in the lot now? You'll get it at the same price as the Ritz ZDi." So what did I do? I canceled the booking and bought a Ford TDCi Titanium at 6.4 lacs on-road, a Yellow display car that had run 250 kms. Sad that I had to let it go because of a bad left knee. ![]() On the service cost front, I think it is a myth (at least from personal experience so far, especially because I don't want to get into arguments) that Maruti's service costs are lower than their competitors. Recently, I accompanied my friend to drop his Alto for a routine service at a Maruti ASC. They gave an estimate of 8.8K for a 20K-run Alto, including WA/WB. Now I've spent a total of 12K on my 2-year old 43K run Tiago XZA in 7 visits. It's due for a service at 45K kms, and the cost should be somewhere around 5-6K at the max. Not bad, no? Maruti's main selling point is resale value, which obviously depends on the availability of parts and service centers. To me, if I buy a good product, I really don't want to buy it because I want to sell it after a few years. I'm just looking forward to a good experience with it. P.S.: On the point of not bashing Maruti or S-Presso for how it looks, I'm sure a lot of you have read what people said about Ritz, that "though it's more practical than a Swift and all, it looks like someone kicked it from the behind; that's why I bought a Swift." I'll just leave it at that. Last edited by Vikki@Hyderabad : 5th October 2019 at 23:47. Reason: Correction. |
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| ![]() The DRL price at 9999 seems overpriced to me - especially since the shape is a straight line. More complicated shapes (e.g. the DRLs for Brezza) are available in the market at less than half this price point. Will this be Maruti's way of encouraging aftermarket accessories and helping the wider automobile accessory market survive in these tough times? |
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| ![]() Checked out the Spresso today. My impressions are as following compared to my lovely 2012 Wagon R. Let me list the negatives first -------------------------------------------------- 1. Underthigh support is less(er) 2. Unnecessary and garish chrome and black decorations. Serves no practical purpose. 3. Unnecessarily bulky rear view mirror purely for aesthetic purposes. It is a liability on jungle raj indian roads. 4. Use of cable operated headllight levelling system instead of electrical and results in unnecessary blank switches. 5. Rear seat does not fold flush with the boot floor. Positives ---------------- 1. Lovely compact body. This is wonderful. Even shorter than my wagon R. 2. Lovely driving position. Nice and tall. Lots of leg room. Super visibility. You can see both edges of the bonnet from driver seat. It reminded me of my force judo 4x4 . 3. No stupid waterfall console in the center to interfere with the left knee. Lots of freedom of movement of left leg. 4. Gainormous legroom in front and rear. I am 184 cms and 110kgs. I found it easier to enter and exit . Even better than my wagon R 5. After fully pushing back the front seat there is still enough leg room in the rear for me. Knees barely touching the back of the front seat. 6. Much more usable and meaningful bootspace than the wagon R. One of my dogs can easily sleep in the boot. Overall I think this is a lovely little car that will tunnel it's way into the owner's heart with it's sheer practicality , utility and ease of use. It is sad that most companies get lost in the aesthetics nonsesnse and refrain from producing such little work horses(or donkeys). I am conflicted about giving up my little wagon R. But it does not have ABS EBD AMT. Those things would be really nice to have. Who knows... I may be driving a white coloured spresso if they give me a fair deal for my little wagon R . I will not openly say that I love the spresso....because my wagon r is listening. Last edited by rrnsss : 6th October 2019 at 16:45. |
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